10 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

After Fulham and Liverpool turned him down.   After selling the club he was dismissed as Honourary President because of his criminal conviction and being on the run.  

 

How far did he get with his request for asylum in the UK?   The British authorities weren't asked to extradite him to Thailand!

Everything you wrote about Liverpool and Fulham seems completely irrelevant.

As i wrote, he was welcomed with open arms when he arrived.

That a military junta later tried him in abstentia and found him guilty (a forgone conclusion if they were to justify the coup), the UK still did not arrest him or return him to Thailand. In fact he was able to visit several countries later. 

 

20 minutes ago, Purdey said:

As i wrote, he was welcomed with open arms when he arrived.

How?  And I mean as opposed to his just arriving in the UK, what was so special ("open arms") about what you call a welcome from the UK authorities? 

26 minutes ago, Purdey said:

That a military junta later tried him in abstentia

He didn't show up!

Thaksin does not need a visa to visit Thailand. He is a Thai citizen and just show up.

Thaksin decided to stay away and run away. He is not only a criminal, he is also a coward. 

7 hours ago, BritScot said:

On 2/7/2023 at 8:01 PM, Liverpool Lou said:

It wasn't a kangaroo court and the charges were not trumped up.

Really! You really believe that?

Go on, then, which was the "trumped up" charge?

10 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

He didn't show up!

Thaksin does not need a visa to visit Thailand. He is a Thai citizen and just show up.

Thaksin decided to stay away and run away. He is not only a criminal, he is also a coward. 

Hahaha

8 hours ago, MrMojoRisin said:

11 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

UK, US, Germany for starters.  Do you have any evidence of any country that has stated specifically that they do not recognise his criminal convictions?   

https://www.thailandnews.co/2011/08/thaksin-never-wanted-by-interpol/

What?  Why the link to an article confirming that Interpol never issued a Notice for him? 

My question was, "Do you have any evidence of any country that has stated specifically that they do not recognise his criminal convictions?"  That link does not provide the name of any such country.

On 2/8/2023 at 10:32 PM, Liverpool Lou said:

What?  Why the link to an article confirming that Interpol never issued a Notice for him? 

My question was, "Do you have any evidence of any country that has stated specifically that they do not recognise his criminal convictions?"  That link does not provide the name of any such country.

Sure do.

https://www.takimag.com/article/dinner-bell-for-the-rights-last-supper/

 

4 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

Sure do.

https://www.takimag.com/article/dinner-bell-for-the-rights-last-supper/

 

5 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

On 2/8/2023 at 10:32 PM, Liverpool Lou said:

What?  Why the link to an article confirming that Interpol never issued a Notice for him? 

My question was, "Do you have any evidence of any country that has stated specifically that they do not recognise his criminal convictions?"  That link does not provide the name of any such country.

Sure do.

https://www.takimag.com/article/dinner-bell-for-the-rights-last-supper/

You sure don't if that's your evidence!  Did you read your own link, by any chance?

53 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

You sure don't if that's your evidence!  Did you read your own link, by any chance?

Like looking in a mirror eh?

11 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

You sure don't if that's your evidence!  Did you read your own link, by any chance?

Like looking in a mirror eh?

No, not at all.  I didn't post any completely irrelevant and off-topic links.  Was it you who posted that "there are some countries that don't recognise Thaksin's convictions"?*

 

*Edit: No, sorry, it was Mr Meeseeks, but you do seem to be in agreement with him!

Edited February 10, 20233 yr by Liverpool Lou

What can you say about any government that is so frightened of opposition?

Taksin should build a new prison and donate it to the government.  He could have a fancy penthouse suite for himself which would be for use by prison staff after he is released.

17 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

No, not at all.  I didn't post any completely irrelevant and off-topic links.  Was it you who posted that "there are some countries that don't recognise Thaksin's convictions"?*

 

*Edit: No, sorry, it was Mr Meeseeks, but you do seem to be in agreement with him!

Quick, you better let the Singapore authorities know an internationally wanted fugitive is in their country.

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53 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

Quick, you better let the Singapore authorities know an internationally wanted fugitive is in their country.

Quick, you better do some research.  The Shinawatras are not "internationally" wanted, they're wanted by Thailand, no other country.

Edited February 11, 20233 yr by Liverpool Lou

On 2/7/2023 at 6:02 AM, proton said:

Right, how dare he win landslide elections ????

and exactly when will the jail sentences begin for the ones who overthrew the elected government in a coup while Taksin was off on a trip ..do you just suppose that this same bunch had an incentive for a so called court to find him guilty of crimes while ignoring the fact that a coup is illegal and impacted far more people and the idea of a democracy much more than whatever crimes they charged against taksin? 

He's been a very naughty boy. 

2 hours ago, MrMojoRisin said:

Why isn’t the Singapore (and Hong Kong) government arresting Thaksin and handing him over to Thailand Lou?

Because he is not wanted in either of those countries!   Why should they hand him over to Thailand and how could they do that, with what justification?    He's committed no offences there.

 

Just because they don't (can't) arrest him doesn't mean that they don't recognise his conviction.  

4 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Because he is not wanted in either of those countries!   Why should they hand him over to Thailand and how could they do that, with what justification?    He's committed no offences there.

 

Just because they don't (can't) arrest him doesn't mean that they don't recognise his conviction.  

Exactly the same as the red bull criminal, free to roam the world as he pleases, currently only wanted for crimes by Thailand. 

A flame troll post and a reply have been removed.

12 minutes ago, Artisi said:

Exactly the same as the red bull criminal, free to roam the world as he pleases, currently only wanted for crimes by Thailand. 

That's right...that's the way the legal systems work...worldwide. 

By the way Vorayuth isn't a criminal unless you're aware of something of which he's been convicted.

3 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

That's right...that's the way the legal systems work...worldwide. 

By the way Vorayuth isn't a criminal unless you're aware of something of which he's been convicted.

Killing a copper while being high, asking some else to take the blame and fleeing the country to avoid prosecution makes him a criminal in my book. 

2 minutes ago, Artisi said:

9 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

By the way Vorayuth isn't a criminal unless you're aware of something of which he's been convicted.

Killing a copper while being high, asking some else to take the blame and fleeing the country to avoid prosecution makes him a criminal in my book. 

Well, you're entitled to your opinion but, until he's had his day in court, legally you're wrong.

Edited February 11, 20233 yr by Liverpool Lou

2 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Because he is not wanted in either of those countries!   Why should they hand him over to Thailand and how could they do that, with what justification?    He's committed no offences there.

 

Just because they don't (can't) arrest him doesn't mean that they don't recognise his conviction.  

Singapore regularly extradites people who have committed no crimes in Singapore to the jurisdictions where they are alleged to have committed a crime.

 

Why are they not extraditing Thaksin?

 

Poor, poor Louie - it seems you have no understanding of how international diplomacy works.

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When Thaksin’s daughter wins the upcoming election and becomes PM, Thaksin will once again be striding the world stage as he pleases, meeting and greeting heads of state regularly - exactly as happened when his sister won in 2011.

 

Prayuth on the other hand, will be an international pariah until he draws his last breath - no trumped up charges or convictions required.

 

You’re on the losing side Louie.

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2 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Well, you're entitled to your opinion but, until he's had his day in court, legally you're wrong.

Then all he has to do is come back to Thailand to stand trial and be found innocent or guilty.

4 minutes ago, billd766 said:

Then all he has to do is come back to Thailand to stand trial and be found innocent or guilty.

Perhaps or perhaps not. 

I believe any current situations might be greatly dependent on the possibilities of high directed pardons. 

From the distant rumours that I've observed, all this might be in the works. 

 

One never knows by way of the incredibly complex world of Monarchical Thai politics. 

24 minutes ago, MrMojoRisin said:

Singapore regularly extradites people who have committed no crimes in Singapore to the jurisdictions where they are alleged to have committed a crime.

 

Why are they not extraditing Thaksin?

 

Poor, poor Louie - it seems you have no understanding of how international diplomacy works.

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When Thaksin’s daughter wins the upcoming election and becomes PM, Thaksin will once again be striding the world stage as he pleases, meeting and greeting heads of state regularly - exactly as happened when his sister won in 2011.

 

Prayuth on the other hand, will be an international pariah until he draws his last breath - no trumped up charges or convictions required.

 

You’re on the losing side Louie.

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Evidently, your deeper understand of international diplomacy and it's workings require updating. 

Your proposed International [whatever that means] policy is more than a bit misconceived - as there's no such standard regarding such practices. 

1 minute ago, zzaa09 said:

Evidently, your deeper understand of international diplomacy and it's workings require updating. 

Your proposed International [whatever that means] policy is more than a bit misconceived - as there's no such standard regarding such practices. 

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So there is no established (written and unwritten) diplomatic protocols and etiquette between nation states?

 

Everyone is just winging it eh?

Making it up as they go?

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International: adj. - existing, occurring or carried on between nations

 

Why do you insist on repeatedly revealing your shortcomings?

 

Some just don't get it.

10 hours ago, zzaa09 said:

Some just don't get it.

Those that don’t get it are not the problem; it’s the ones who don’t get it but think they do - they’re the time wasters and enablers.

If only Dunning-Krugers wasn’t a thing, the world would be a better place.