Army will not arrest Phra Netiwit for alleged draft dodging

[snoop1130]

 

No arrest warrant will be issued against Phra Netiwit for his failure to attend the military service lottery draw as required yesterday (Sunday) in Samut Prakan, said Maj-Gen Sirichan Ngathong, deputy spokesperson for the Royal Thai Army).

 

She explained that the former student activist, Netiwit Chotiphatphaisal, will be treated like other draft dodgers, in accordance with the established procedures of the Interior Ministry, which is that the Mueang district of Samut Prakan, where Netiwit was supposed to report, will issue a notification inviting him to the district office for questioning about his absence.

 

If the district officials discover that there is no valid reason, based on force majeure, for his failure to report and his actions are a violation of the Conscription Act, the officials will advise the police to take legal action against him.

 

Full Story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/army-will-not-arrest-phra-netiwit-for-alleged-draft-dodging/

 

-- © Copyright Thai PBS 2023-04-10

 

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[ThailandRyan]

Are monks not exempt?

[VincentRJ]

  On 4/10/2023 at 11:25 AM, ThailandRyan said:

Are monks not exempt?

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I asked ChatGPT that question. Here's the answer.

 

"Thai monks are exempt from military conscription in Thailand. The Thai Constitution states that monks, novices, and persons undergoing religious education are exempt from military service."
 

[chalawaan]

  On 4/10/2023 at 11:25 AM, ThailandRyan said:

Are monks not exempt?

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He could have Signed up as Chaplain, got Officer pay too! 

Praise the Lord and pass the ammo!

[kingstonkid]

Unless it was just done as a way to get out of reporting.

[bradiston]

Maybe a pointless question, but what happens to conscientious objectors? Is there such a concept in Thailand? Hanging's too good for 'em? I doubt it. They'd have strung up Ali, GOAT, amongst a million others.

 

"Refusing to serve in the Vietnam War, boxer Muhammad Ali stated "I ain't got no quarrel with them Viet Cong ... They never called me <deleted>." in 1966."

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscientious_objector

[herfiehandbag]

  On 4/10/2023 at 10:20 PM, kingstonkid said:

Unless it was just done as a way to get out of reporting.

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It is often suggested that short term membership of the monkhood is used by all sorts of people as a way of avoiding a variety of liabilities and perhaps punishments. 

 

I don't know if this young man has entered the monkhood out of conviction, or for other reasons. Perhaps he should be afforded the same consideration as certain older more notorious individuals.

 

I am not a Buddhist, the faith and it's practice is central to society and the monkhood seems to have a well structured clerical hierarchy. Perhaps it would be for them to decide.

[hotchilli]

  On 4/10/2023 at 10:34 AM, snoop1130 said:

She explained that the former student activist, Netiwit Chotiphatphaisal, will be treated like other draft dodgers, in accordance with the established procedures of the Interior Ministry, which is that the Mueang district of Samut Prakan, where Netiwit was supposed to report, will issue a notification inviting him to the district office for questioning about his absence.

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Then he will be arrested.

[NE1]

They maybe exempt , but they still have to report for classification and ID purposes.

[stoner]

what's the point of having an army full of men who don't want to be there and who despise its top brass ? 

 

these clowns just keep clowning. it will be a bright day in thailand when all of this old generation is dead and gone. can't come fast enough.

[NE1]

  On 4/11/2023 at 12:40 AM, stoner said:

what's the point of having an army full of men who don't want to be there and who despise its top brass ? 

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Would love to know how many volunteers there are every year ?

Maybe not enough , that is why this conscription continues.

[bradiston]

  On 4/11/2023 at 12:55 AM, NE1 said:

Would love to know how many volunteers there are every year ?

Maybe not enough , that is why this conscription continues.

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Maybe if they provided proper training, proper equipment, eliminated hazing and bullying, had a proper career path in place, fair and non discriminatory promotion system, decent pay, housing and insurance, eradicate pay for promotion practices etc etc, they might get volunteers from all walks of life, not just the press-ganged usually impoverished citizens who can't afford to buy their way out.

[stoner]

  On 4/11/2023 at 1:14 AM, bradiston said:

Maybe if they provided proper training, proper equipment, eliminated hazing and bullying, had a proper career path in place, fair and non discriminatory promotion system, decent pay, housing and insurance, eradicate pay for promotion practices etc etc, they might get volunteers from all walks of life, not just the press-ganged usually impoverished citizens who can't afford to buy their way out.

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hahahahhaahahahahaahaha 

 

your comment is so good. well thought out and presented good ideas. 

 

now go wash my barracks and we will talk about that promotion. 

[bradiston]

  On 4/11/2023 at 1:50 AM, stoner said:

hahahahhaahahahahaahaha 

 

your comment is so good. well thought out and presented good ideas. 

 

now go wash my barracks and we will talk about that promotion. 

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Sir, yes sir (thinks, thank god it's his barracks and nothing else).

[nahkit]

Some clarification here :-

 

 

[gomangosteen]

  On 4/11/2023 at 12:55 AM, NE1 said:

Would love to know how many volunteers there are every year ?

Maybe not enough , that is why this conscription continues.

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Didn't find the 2022 number, but for 2021 it was 3,524 volunteers, far fewer than the hoped for 10,000.

 

Result, 6,500 more conscripts required.

[gomangosteen]

  On 4/11/2023 at 1:14 AM, bradiston said:

... not just the press-ganged usually impoverished citizens who can't afford to buy their way out.

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Yes indeed. We know two young men who attended the black/red day on Sunday.

 

One of each, one out, one in, but there's a catch.

 

The one who 'drew black' ensured that outcome by making a payment of 60,000 baht on Saturday. A double catch, agreed fee had been 30,000 until Friday 

 

Inflation? Annual cost of living increase?

[gomangosteen]

And one more on the topic of annual conscription, broadening the net of candidates:

 

For 2023 the minimum height for candidates has been reduced from 159cm to 146cm.

 

For those imperial-minded folk that's 5' 2 1/2" down to 4' 9 1/2".

 

Small arms experience?

 

 

 

 

[hughrection]

  On 4/11/2023 at 3:36 AM, bradiston said:

Sir, yes sir (thinks, thank god it's his barracks and nothing else).

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It may be a spelling mistake. ????

[proton]

  On 4/11/2023 at 2:03 PM, gomangosteen said:

Yes indeed. We know two young men who attended the black/red day on Sunday.

 

One of each, one out, one in, but there's a catch.

 

The one who 'drew black' ensured that outcome by making a payment of 60,000 baht on Saturday. A double catch, agreed fee had been 30,000 until Friday 

 

Inflation? Annual cost of living increase?

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we paid 20k 10 years ago, either that or put a dress and make up on!

[Huckenfell]

  On 4/11/2023 at 3:36 AM, bradiston said:

Sir, yes sir (thinks, thank god it's his barracks and nothing else).

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Excuse me sir, do you know who i am.