Nearly half of Americans think Trump should suspend 2024 campaign after indictment: poll

[heybruce]

21 minutes ago, 2009 said:

Yes, the Biden administration has read their history well: Stalin, Kim Jong Un, Hitler, Hussain, as well as other dictators also jailed their political opponents.

 

Why can't they just leave it to the American people to decide? You know that thing called 'democracy'

"Stalin, Kim Jong Un, Hitler, Hussain, as well as other dictators also jailed their political opponents."

 

What kind of legal process did they follow?

 

'democracy' requires reasonable people who acknowledge when they have lost an election.

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14 minutes ago, 2009 said:

Yeah, but it's clear these charges are trumped up. (Lol. Couldn't help it. ????)

 

The timing with his arrest and him running for presidency again is a bit more than a coincidence.

 

Biden even said that they would do everything in their legal power to stop him becoming president if he did run again. Lol.

 

Watch this from 25:19 to hear him say that, "If he does run,.........."

 

 

 

Is it really Biden's job to use the law to prevent someone else becoming president after him? I thought that was the job of the voters in a democracy, no??

 

Unethical.

 

Here's the relevant quote:

"We just have to demonstrate that he will not take power.by, if he does run, under the legitimate efforts of our constitution, does not become the next President again."

From that you construe the Biden is speaking about some unconstitutional, criminal plan to block Trump from taking office? An ad hoc comment, which doesn't even support what you claim, is your idea of proof. It is to laugh.

[Kwaibill]

To the Trumpophiles claiming, in his own words, a “ political witch hunt”, how do you explain the indictments coming from a jury of Trump’s peers?

It is a criminal indictment. “ If you can’t do the time don’t do the crime”.

Trump first came to my notice when he and his father were convicted of racist housing discrimination in the early 70s. No BS plea deals likely this time. around.

[placeholder]

14 minutes ago, proton said:

So most people think he should still run and most of the others would actually vote for the worst President in history Biden.

Most people think he should still run? What makes you think that?

[2009]

6 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Here's the relevant quote:

"We just have to demonstrate that he will not take power.by, if he does run, under the legitimate efforts of our constitution, does not become the next President again."

From that you construe the Biden is speaking about some unconstitutional, criminal plan to block Trump from taking office? An ad hoc comment, which doesn't even support what you claim, is your idea of proof. It is to laugh.

No, that's not what I said.

 

I said it's unethical for Biden to use the law/constitution to stop someone becoming president.

 

That's not his job. It's the job of the voters. It's called democracy.

 

Rather than legally messing around with an election candidate, which - correct me if I'm wrong - is what he said.

 

It's a misuse of his power as president.

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[2009]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

Most people think he should still run? What makes you think that?

The keyword in the title is "nearly"

 

Read the title carefully.

[placeholder]

1 minute ago, 2009 said:

No, that's not what I said.

 

I said it's unethical for Biden to use the law/constitution to stop someone becoming president.

 

That's not his job. It's the job of the voters. It's called democracy.

 

Rather that legally messing around an election, which - correct me if I'm wrong - is what he said.

So elections aren't a constitutional means to stop someone from taking office? Hmm...interesting.

[placeholder]

1 minute ago, 2009 said:

The keyword in the title is "nearly"

 

Read the title carefully.

I did. Very carefully. And the text. Clearly you didn't and still don't get it.

[ozimoron]

The 10 Worst U.S. Presidents

2. Donald Trump

Born: June 14, 1946

Presidential Term: Jan. 20, 2017 - Jan 20, 2021

 

The only living president among the 10 worst presidents in history, Trump is also the only president to be impeached twice.

 

https://www.usnews.com/news/special-reports/the-worst-presidents/slideshows/the-10-worst-presidents?slide=10

 

[Mac Mickmanus]

9 minutes ago, 2009 said:

No, that's not what I said.

 

I said it's unethical for Biden to use the law/constitution to stop someone becoming president.

 

That's not his job. It's the job of the voters. It's called democracy.

 

Rather that legally messing around an election, which - correct me if I'm wrong - is what he said.

That is a big reason I.M.O. why Biden needed to withdraw from Afghanistan , he can hardly lecture them about democracy whilst getting his opponents jailed 

Edited April 13, 2023 by Mac Mickmanus

[earlinclaifornia]

1 minute ago, 2009 said:

The keyword in the title is "nearly"

 

Read the title carefully.

48% say he shouldn't

16% say don't know

= 64

100-64 = 36!!

The new way to round up for Trump supporters

 

[Kwaibill]

3 minutes ago, 2009 said:

The keyword in the title is "nearly"

 

Read the title carefully.

Reading comprehension is not a known MAGA strong point.

[placeholder]

Just now, Mac Mickmanus said:

That is a big reason why Biden needed to withdraw from Afghanistan , he can hardly lecture them about democracy whilst getting his opponents jailed 

I'm sure you wouldn't make such an accusation without being in possession of a smoking gun. Can you please link to your evidence?

We do know for a fact that the Attorney General has given final authority to David Weiss, the Trump appointed U.S. atttorney for Delaware, the final say in whether Hunter Biden should be prosecuted. Hardly seems like an administration willing to play prosecutorial games. Whereas the Trump administration...

[2009]

5 minutes ago, placeholder said:

I did. Very carefully. And the text. Clearly you didn't and still don't get it.

Well, this is how I'd explain it to my 5 year old.

 

If "nearly" half the people think he shouldn't run for presidency, that means that more than half still think he should."

 

See how simple that is?

 

If there's something you still don't get, just let me know.

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[Chomper Higgot]

5 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

That is a big reason why Biden needed to withdraw from Afghanistan , he can hardly lecture them about democracy whilst getting his opponents jailed 

Oh look, you’re trying to deflect… again.

[placeholder]

5 minutes ago, 2009 said:

Well, this is how I'd explain it to my 5 years old.

 

If "nearly" half the people think he shouldn't run for presidency, that means that more than half still think he should."

 

See how simple that is?

 

If there's something you still don't get, just let me know.

 The article said 48% thought he should suspend his campaign. Nowhere did it say that 52% didn't. I think your 5 year old needs a new teacher.

 

EDIT: Just don't hire proton for the job.

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[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, 2009 said:

Well, this is how I'd explain it to my 5 years old.

 

If "nearly" half the people think he shouldn't run for presidency, that means that more than half still think he should."

 

See how simple that is?

 

If there's something you still don't get, just let me know.

When your five year old asks, ‘But Pops, did all those that didn’t say he shouldn’t run, say he should?’

 

You’ll have to respond ‘shut up and eat your greens’.

[Mac Mickmanus]

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

 The article said 48% thought he should suspend his campaign. Nowhere did it say that 52% didn't. I think your 5 year old needs a new teacher.

Lots of English teachers here but, are there any maths teachers ?

What is the other half of the remainder of 48 % ?

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1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Lots of English teachers here but, are there any maths teachers ?

What is the other half of the remainder of 48 % ?

Well, if by the remainder you mean 52%, then half of that would be 26%

[placeholder]

Given the mathematical ineptitude I've seen here from Trump supporters, it's no wonder that they can be suckered into believing that he won the election.

[Mac Mickmanus]

4 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Given the mathematical ineptitude I've seen here from Trump supporters, it's no wonder that they can be suckered into believing that he won the election.

So, if 48 % of people think something , then that is more than the people who don't think it ? 

[placeholder]

1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

So, if 48 % of people think something , then that is more than the people who don't think it ? 

It was claimed on the basis of that 48% figure that the majority think he should run.

[Eric Loh]

The absurdity noises from the Maga cult is unbearable. Let the loser run if he get past the primaries. He is nothing but a fringe candidate for the 2024 election if he is the GOP candidate. 25% favorability polling rate is a dismal number to run for any election. 
https://www.salon.com/2023/04/11/dropping-like-a-rock-new-poll-shows-falling-into-fringe-candidate-territory-after-arrest/

[candide]

55 minutes ago, 2009 said:

No, that's not what I said.

 

I said it's unethical for Biden to use the law/constitution to stop someone becoming president.

 

That's not his job. It's the job of the voters. It's called democracy.

 

Rather than legally messing around with an election candidate, which - correct me if I'm wrong - is what he said.

 

It's a misuse of his power as president.

A baseless B.S. claim...

[Mac Mickmanus]

11 minutes ago, placeholder said:

It was claimed on the basis of that 48% figure that the majority think he should run.

48 % thought he shouldn't run , will leaves 52 % thinking that he should

[placeholder]

Just now, Mac Mickmanus said:

48 % thought he shouldn't run , will leaves 52 % thinking that he should

No it doesn't. If I were you, I would examine my assumptions.

[ozimoron]

2 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

48 % thought he shouldn't run , will leaves 52 % thinking that he should

And nobody with no opinion or don't know. You're funny.

[Mac Mickmanus]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

No it doesn't. If I were you, I would examine my assumptions.

If say , 10 % of people laughed at the question , gave it a ???? as a response , then that would leave just 42 % of people thinking that he should run ?

[placeholder]

1 hour ago, Kwaibill said:

To the Trumpophiles claiming, in his own words, a “ political witch hunt”, how do you explain the indictments coming from a jury of Trump’s peers?

It is a criminal indictment. “ If you can’t do the time don’t do the crime”.

Trump first came to my notice when he and his father were convicted of racist housing discrimination in the early 70s. No BS plea deals likely this time. around.

Well, they weren't convicted. They pleaded no contest to an administrative charge and had to pay a hefty fine. What happened was this. Some investigative agency sent white couples and black couples to rent units at Trump properties. They had the same financial information re jobs savings etc. The black couples were told no property was available. The white couples...well, I'll leave it to you to make a wild guess about what they were told.

[2009]

11 minutes ago, candide said:

A baseless B.S. claim...

Did ya see the video I posted with Biden saying that was his intention of Trump ran for president again??