Diane Abbott has Labour whip suspended after 'hateful antisemitic' remarks suggesting Jews do not face racism

[JonnyF]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I didn’t ignore it.

 

It’s a historical report, the Labour Party have changed leadership, adopted the recommendations and expelled people the report identified as being guilty of antisemitism.

 

You have nothing to back up your slur.

And yet they still have bigots like Abbott making anti-semitic remarks. Why hasn't she been expelled? It's not like it's her first racist comment. 

 

They've done nothing more than got a fancy new front door, swept the mess under the carpet and carried on as normal.

[JonnyF]

13 minutes ago, bignok said:

She looks like a hater. Does she hate men too?

Her main apparent dislike is for Jews and white people.

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/8994068/Diane-Abbott-White-people-love-playing-divide-and-rule.html

 

 

Although she has spoken of the "crisis of masculinity" in the past.

 

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/05/15/diane-abbot-masculinity-crisis_n_3277154.html

 

 

She doesn't seem to have an issue with Corbyn though, although in fairness he did preside over a period in the Labour party when anti-semitism was particularly prominent so they seem to have a lot in common.

[proton]

28 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

Labour and anti-Semitism or Tories and anti Islam - it seems that both parties have a sizeable section of bigots within them. Good to see Labour continuing to take a strong position against such people.

Why are you a bigot for being anti Islam? a supremacist intolerant movement, anti gay and which oppresses women, founded by a slave owning thief, killer and child abuser?

[Chomper Higgot]

40 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

And yet they still have bigots like Abbott making anti-semitic remarks. Why hasn't she been expelled? It's not like it's her first racist comment. 

 

They've done nothing more than got a fancy new front door, swept the mess under the carpet and carried on as normal.

Can you tell us who these other bigots are and provide evidence to back up your claim?

 

Here are two facts, so you’ll be able to spot facts when you see them.

 

1. Dianne Abbot made racist remarks that were unquestionably antisemitism.

 

2. The Labour Party has responded by immediately withdrawing the whip from Abbott and have announced a party investigation into her words and actions.

 

Your earnest efforts to baselessly blame the whole of the Labour Party and its membership with the antisemitism and racism expressed by Abbott is noted. 

Edited April 24, 2023 by Chomper Higgot

[bignok]

41 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Her main apparent dislike is for Jews and white people.

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/8994068/Diane-Abbott-White-people-love-playing-divide-and-rule.html

 

 

Although she has spoken of the "crisis of masculinity" in the past.

 

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/05/15/diane-abbot-masculinity-crisis_n_3277154.html

 

 

She doesn't seem to have an issue with Corbyn though, although in fairness he did preside over a period in the Labour party when anti-semitism was particularly prominent so they seem to have a lot in common.

She hates everyone except black women. Boot her out.

[proton]

22 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Can you tell us who these other bigots are and provide evidence to back up your claim?

 

Here are two facts, so you’ll be able to spot facts when you see them.

 

1. Dianne Abbot made racist remarks that were unquestionably antisemitism.

 

2. The Labour Party has responded by immediately withdrawing the whip from Abbott and have announced a party investigation into her words and actions.

 

Your earnest efforts to baselessly blame the whole of the Labour Party and its membership with the antisemitism and racism expressed by Abbott is noted. 

Anti semites appear to have joined the party when Corbyn was mistakenly put in charge of the party in 2015

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

6 minutes ago, proton said:

Anti semites appear to have joined the party when Corbyn was mistakenly put in charge of the party in 2015

 

 

Antisemitism has always existed within the extremes left and right of the political spectrum.

 

It was communists who authored the conspiracy theorem tat underpins ‘The Elders of Zion’ a conspiracy theory that has taken root in both political extremes and frequently turns up in discussions on this forum.

 

So yes, I would agree, Corbin played to these antisemite memes and attracted antisemites to the Labour Party.

He’s gone and so are his followers.

 

Keir Starmer is the leader of the Labour Party and he has made clear statements and actions to root out antisemitism, his swift action to remove the whip from Abbott is an example.

 

[RuamRudy]

1 hour ago, proton said:

Why are you a bigot for being anti Islam? a supremacist intolerant movement, anti gay and which oppresses women, founded by a slave owning thief, killer and child abuser?

There are extreme forms of every religion - the labels you threw out there can be applied to strains of Christianity and Judaism too. 

 

Likewise there are very modern Muslims who are fully integrated with Western values and eschew the negative traits you mentioned. 

 

You are a bigot if you refuse to recognise that.

Edited April 24, 2023 by RuamRudy

[youreavinalaff]

12 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Abbot has had the whip removed and is now under Party investigation, these responses were immediate.

 

No months hiding behind ‘due process’, no ‘Dither and Delay’.

 

Immediate response from the a party that is not in the business of covering up and protecting its members from accountability for their own actions.

It was acted upon quickly as she is one of the enemy. Starmer couldn't believe his luck. 

 

Had it been a member of the shadow cabinet things would likely have taken longer.

Edited April 24, 2023 by youreavinalaff

[Chomper Higgot]

7 hours ago, youreavinalaff said:

It was acted upon quickly as she is one of the enemy. Starmer couldn't believe his luck. 

 

Had it been a member of the shadow cabinet things would likely have taken longer.

Or do you assert.

[herfiehandbag]

It is nothing but a cacophobic and perhaps even a Cacomorphobic knee jerk reaction!

Edited April 25, 2023 by herfiehandbag

[Hanaguma]

13 hours ago, RuamRudy said:

There are extreme forms of every religion - the labels you threw out there can be applied to strains of Christianity and Judaism too. 

 

Likewise there are very modern Muslims who are fully integrated with Western values and eschew the negative traits you mentioned. 

 

You are a bigot if you refuse to recognise that.

True. But very few of them advocate for executing apostates or homosexuals.  In fact, I can think of only one...  

[transam]

Corby & Abbott, the dynamic duo of self-destruction.

 

 

But, they can now have afternoon tea & scones together in their spare time......

[RuamRudy]

4 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

True. But very few of them advocate for executing apostates or homosexuals.  In fact, I can think of only one...  

Again, not all Christians stand with the Westboro Baptist church and not all Muslims advocate for death to homosexuals. 

The Ugandan parliament is currently pushing through a bill that is advocating for life imprisonment for homosexuals - a bill promoted and endorsed but Christians.

Either all Christians are to be tarred by that aberration or you must accept that not all Muslims conform to your prejudice.

[RuamRudy]

2 hours ago, transam said:

Corby & Abbott, the dynamic duo of self-destruction.

 

 

But, they can now have afternoon tea & scones together in their spare time......

If only they were Tories, they could cheat, lie, steal and offend with total impunity.

[transam]

1 minute ago, RuamRudy said:

If only they were Tories, they could cheat, lie, steal and offend with total impunity.

Good afternoon RR, yet another Lefty post, what a surprise...

Dare I mention your SNP..............

[RuamRudy]

3 minutes ago, transam said:

Good afternoon RR, yet another Lefty post, what a surprise...

Dare I mention your SNP..............

Hello Transam - do you really want an echo chamber? 

[Hanaguma]

4 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

Again, not all Christians stand with the Westboro Baptist church and not all Muslims advocate for death to homosexuals. 

The Ugandan parliament is currently pushing through a bill that is advocating for life imprisonment for homosexuals - a bill promoted and endorsed but Christians.

Either all Christians are to be tarred by that aberration or you must accept that not all Muslims conform to your prejudice.

Oh I know there are some moderate Muslims, and even some relatively moderate Muslim nations. But they are rare in comparison to other religions.  Even in rather 'normal' countries like Malaysia, more than half the Muslim population wants Sharia as the law of the land.  Large majorities in places like Egypt favor death for those who leave Islam.  You would be hard pressed to find similar positions in other religions. 

 

It is all a matter of scale.

[transam]

2 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

Hello Transam - do you really want an echo chamber? 

Echo chamber................????..........????

[JonnyF]

24 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

If only they were Tories, they could cheat, lie, steal and offend with total impunity.

Do you have a link to back up that claim?

[JonnyF]

23 minutes ago, transam said:

Good afternoon RR, yet another Lefty post, what a surprise...

Dare I mention your SNP..............

Cut him some slack, probably mad that they're going to cut off the corrupt SNP's funding.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/snp-nicola-sturgeon-humza-yousaf-latest-news-b2323980.html

 

[transam]

4 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Cut him some slack, probably mad that they're going to cut off the corrupt SNP's funding.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/snp-nicola-sturgeon-humza-yousaf-latest-news-b2323980.html

 

Yes, these SNP/Independence folk have more front than Woolworth's.....????

[RuamRudy]

2 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Do you have a link to back up that claim?

Are you serious? Actually, I think you might be - it would explain so much.