Police Dep Commander-in-Chief "Big Joke" Surachate Reveals 12 Victims Dead from "Cyanide" Poisoning

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Pol. Gen. Surachet Hakpal, the Deputy Commander-in-Chief of the Thai police, provided an update on the mysterious case involving Ms. Sararat, also known as "Am", who is accused of causing the death of Ms. Siriporn while feeding fish at a pier in Ratchaburi, as reported by INN.

 

During a recent TV program, he revealed that two more bodies were found in Don Tum and Muang Districts of Nakhon Pathom Province, bringing the total number of deaths to 12, with only one person surviving. The Deputy Commander-in-Chief confirmed that Am had indeed poisoned the victims, and the evidence was solid.

 

Autopsy results showed that the victims were poisoned, with their hearts having stopped beating. Currently, Am is being interrogated by the authorities.

 

Some of the victims had already been cremated, and further information was needed from the doctors. In cases where autopsies were not conducted, the police relied on circumstantial and personal witnesses to build their case for the court.

 

Pol. Gen. Surachet emphasized that officials had clear evidence and were highly confident of securing a 100 percent conviction rate.

 

While lawyers were mandated to protect their clients' interests, the police used forensic science to build their case. They aimed to expand the investigation to cover all 12 victims and execute arrest warrants for anyone implicated in the crimes.

 

The investigation is ongoing, and further updates are expected as more evidence comes to light.

 

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[dinsdale]

Very interesting this one. Seen her described as a serial killer but IMO this is wrong. A mass murderer would be more accurate.

As for "Big Joke" we know, we all know his nickname. How about just Police Dep. Commander in Chief Surachet or just Pol. Gen. Surachet.

Edited April 27, 2023 by Pink Mist
Oversized Capital letters have been removed

[sammieuk1]

Now that BJ is certifying 12 deaths and some already cremated you could well end up with a "AM" Harold Shipman on the loose with 100s of past victims ???? 

[stoner]

5 to 12.....wonder how many it will end up being. this is so nutz.  never a normal day in the land of coocoo.

[Celsius]

Just ask yourself if you how much you trust any doctor diagnosis or anything done up to "standard" here in Thailand. 

 

Things such as autopsy seem to be unheard of here? This is how they treat their own. A joke 3rd world of a country,

 

Just for a reference, I asked Quora

 

https://www.quora.com/Can-cyanide-be-detected-in-autopsy

[Kinnock]

What a sad indictment of the police and autopsy processes.  This should have been stopped after the first death.

[dinsdale]

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

Very interesting this one. Seen her described as a serial killer but IMO this is wrong. A mass murderer would be more accurate.

As for "Big Joke" we know, we all know his nickname. How about just Police Dep. Commander in Chief Surachet or just Pol. Gen. Surachet.

My oversized capital letters were removed so here they are again (can't quite remember exacltly) not in oversized capital letters

Stop saying "Big Joke" all the time. We Know Already !!!!!!!! 

[bamnutsak]

Time to trot out forensic specialist Pornthip again, the former head of the Central Institute of Forensic Science in Thailand, with her re-purposed GT200 "Cyanide Detector"?

 

13 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Stop saying "Big Joke" all the time. We Know Already

That's his brand, and I think it is mandatory to use his brand name in any/all publications.

 

Were the initial deaths categorized as suspicious? What was the legally published cause of death?

 

 

 

 

[ningnong]

What I got out of the INN article linked in the OP.

 

Pol. Gen. Surachate Hakpal did not confirm Am poisoned all 12. He said there is a total of 12 bodies involved with one survivor.  The doctor for the one survivor made it clear he/she was poisoned.

 

Before cremation autopsies had been performed on some of the victims so information should be available about those victims.

Edited April 27, 2023 by ningnong

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Thailand denies bail to suspected serial killer as cyanide poisoning toll rises to 13
by Petch Petpailin 

 

Photo via Nation

The Criminal Court of Thailand denied bail to the suspected serial killer, Sararat “Am” Rangsiwuthaporn. The number of victims has increased from 8 to 13, with two of them luckily surviving the cyanide poisoning.

 

The Criminal Court of Thailand denied bail and issued a detention notice against Am for 12 days from April 26 to May 7. During this time, the court will question 10 witnesses and investigate the autopsy result of the latest victim. Bail was denied to prevent the alleged serial killer from intervening in the investigation process or escaping.

 

Yesterday, the Deputy Commissioner of the Royal Thai Police (RTP), Surachate “Big Joke” Hakparn, revealed to the media that 13 victims were poisoned with cyanide, which killed 11 of them. Two of the victims survived, one of whom was a woman named Pla, who lives in the central province of Kanchana Buri. The other survivor, who resides in the Isaan province of Khon Kaen, is still under investigation.

 

The other three victims who were murdered by the serial killer were identified as:

A female vendor, Jarin, died on August 19 last year at Maha Chai Market in the central province of Samut Sakhon. She handed over 100,000 baht for Am to keep in a kitty purse on August 4.

A 39 year old teacher, Phasudee, who died on November 20 of last year at her house in the central province of Nakhon Pathom. She handed over 100,000 baht to Am’s kitty on August 4

A woman named Chantarat passed away on August 15 at her house in the southern province of Phetchaburi. She gave 70,000 baht to Am and invested another 20,000 baht in an online shop on TikTok with the alleged serial killer.

A surviving victim, Pla, revealed in an interview with the media that she and Am were friends because her husband and Am’s ex-husband were police officers. The alleged serial killer borrowed money of 250,000 baht from her in September of last year. After she got infected with Covid-19, Am gave her herbal medicine claiming that it could treat her cough and Covid.

 

Full story: https://thethaiger.com/news/national/thailand-denies-bail-to-suspected-serial-killer-as-cyanide-poisoning-toll-rises-to-13

 

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[AndyFoxy]

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

Very interesting this one. Seen her described as a serial killer but IMO this is wrong. A mass murderer would be more accurate.

As for "Big Joke" we know, we all know his nickname. How about just Police Dep. Commander in Chief Surachet or just Pol. Gen. Surachet.

Serial killer I would say. 

[dinsdale]

10 minutes ago, AndyFoxy said:

Serial killer I would say. 

Yep. I agree. I had it ass about. 

[bamnutsak]

11 minutes ago, AndyFoxy said:

Serial killer

While there are fewer female serial killers, many of them are poisoners.

 

 

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Survivor of Alleged Cyanide Poisoning Attempt Gives Statement to Police

 

 

BANGKOK, April 27 (TNA) – A survivor of an alleged cyanide poisoning attempt gave her statement to the police while the police found that the suspect's sister was a pharmacist.

Deputy national police chief Pol. Gen. Surachate Hakparn said the survivor, Ms. Kantima was the wife of the deputy superintendent of the border patrol police in Kanchanaburi. She knew the suspect, identified as Sararat or Am because her husband and the suspect's ex-policeman husband were friends.

 

In September last year, Kantima said she had Covid-19. The suspect earlier owed her 250,000 baht. Sararat visited her, asking her out to have lunch at a mall in Kanchanaburi and gave her a tablet of anti-Covid herbal medicine. She took the pill as she trusted the suspect. They separately drove to the mall. On the way, Kantima had chest tightness and breathing difficulty. She called the suspect to help her but the latter said she got lost. Kantima then called the emergency hotline 1669 before she became unconscious. She was rushed to hospital in an ambulance and was rescued by CPR performed by doctor. She recovered, believing she was allergic to a substance in the herbal medicine. She did not think her friend poisoned her.

 

Full story: https://tna.mcot.net/english-news-1161720

 

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[BangkokReady]

I wonder if she will get a "nickname".  And what did she do with all the money?

 

Crazy!

[Joe Farang]

2 hours ago, dinsdale said:

My oversized capital letters were removed so here they are again (can't quite remember exacltly) not in oversized capital letters

Stop saying "Big Joke" all the time. We Know Already !!!!!!!! 

You were the 1st person to reference big joke in this thread

[kcpattaya]

3 hours ago, Celsius said:

A joke 3rd world of a country

Time to go home? (Asking for a friend)

[dinsdale]

17 minutes ago, Joe Farang said:

You were the 1st person to reference big joke in this thread

Only because I'm sick and tired of it. He is Pol. Gen. Surachate. That's his name and position. Being told he's known as "Big Joke" in each and every article is very tiring. There is no need.

[Old Croc]

24 minutes ago, Joe Farang said:

You were the 1st person to reference big joke in this thread

Apart from in the thread title?

[wensiensheng]

2 hours ago, AndyFoxy said:

Serial killer I would say. 

Not sure about that. AFAIK a serial kills for the killing “buzz” or out of compulsion.

 

this lady seems to be alleged to have killed because of money transactions.

 

it seems different to me.

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Damning evidence mounts against what police now believe to be a prolific cyanide serial killer 
by James Morris and Son Nguyen

 

The former wife of a senior police officer in Ratchaburi province is currently four months pregnant with the baby of her latest husband who is also believed to have died at her hands on March 12th last when the couple travelled to Udon Thani province on business.

 

His family were later shocked by the green pallor of the man’s body with blood running from his nose while suspicions arose when it was found she had told authorities in Udon Thani that he suffered from a congenital heart defect.

A special task force headed up by Deputy National Police Chief General Surachate Hakparn has taken over the investigation into what looks increasingly like one of Thailand’s biggest serial killer cases ever. Police have unearthed so far a dozen suspicious cases involving deaths linked to 34-year-old Ms Sararat Rangsiwutthaporn or ‘Am’  which may be attributed to cyanide poisoning.

 

Nearly all of the accused had a financial relationship with the accused who Thai media have in recent days dubbed ‘Am Cyanide’ as the weight of circumstantial evidence grows damning against the accused. It includes missing valuables linked with all the deaths who were at close quarters with the suspect before their untimely demise. Ms Sararat was escorted to a Thai prison on Tuesday night, under heavy guard, for the first time after the Criminal Court denied the suspect, the ex-wife of a deputy superintendent of police in Ratchaburi, bail and demand her in custody until May 7th. 

 

Full story: https://www.thaiexaminer.com/thai-news-foreigners/2023/04/27/prolific-cyanide-serial-killer-held-in-jail-am-sararat-rangsiwutthaporn/

 

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[SOTIRIOS]

...Utterly Diabolical...

[tandor]

4 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Very interesting this one. Seen her described as a serial killer but IMO this is wrong. A mass murderer would be more accurate.

As for "Big Joke" we know, we all know his nickname. How about just Police Dep. Commander in Chief Surachet or just Pol. Gen. Surachet.

not a mass murderer but a serial murderer..this took place over a 3 year period..separate incidents. 

[Drumbuie]

4 hours ago, Celsius said:

Just ask yourself if you how much you trust any doctor diagnosis or anything done up to "standard" here in Thailand. 

 

Things such as autopsy seem to be unheard of here? This is how they treat their own. A joke 3rd world of a country,

 

Just for a reference, I asked Quora

 

https://www.quora.com/Can-cyanide-be-detected-in-autopsy

Maybe that is the case in India but it is in fact possible to detect cyanide post mortem at sub-lethal doses.

 

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/325875019_Forensic_Toxicological_Analysis_in_Cyanide_Poisoning_Two_Case_Reports

[klauskunkel]

48 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

Quite different to the mass nursery that sen a daily occurrence in the USA.

It helps to read the post one more time before hitting the Submit Reply button... 

[tandor]

47 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

What I read into the story is that she killed so that she didn’t have to repay money. Quite different to the mass nursery that sen a daily occurrence in the USA.

...seems she got used to poisoning and getting away with it. 

[dinsdale]

11 minutes ago, tandor said:

not a mass murderer but a serial murderer..this took place over a 3 year period..separate incidents. 

Agree. I corrected that in a later post.

[hotchilli]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

Some of the victims had already been cremated, and further information was needed from the doctors. In cases where autopsies were not conducted, the police relied on circumstantial and personal witnesses to build their case for the court.

Rather a haphazard system... if you can call it a system?

[Taboo2]

This is a horror story....evil incarnate!

[tandor]

4 minutes ago, Drumbuie said:

Maybe that is the case in India but it is in fact possible to detect cyanide post mortem at sub-lethal doses.

 

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/325875019_Forensic_Toxicological_Analysis_in_Cyanide_Poisoning_Two_Case_Reports

It is up to the discretion of the general medical practitioner certifying Life Extinct at the hospital.I if he is not already aware of the circumstances surrounding the death to contact RTP and Forensic Science requesting a full autopsy to determine the actual cause of death.

This procedure here in Thailand includes an external examination of the cadaver, tissues samples of all organs, blood, urine, cerebral spinal fluid, swabs, hair, nail clippings, any any other samples deemed necessary for examination and anakysis as per International Standards.

If any of these doctors did not request an autopsy then it is a matter for the Court to decide why.

If the case is highly suspicious, as is the case in all of these cases, then the cadavers should not have been released but kept at 0 degress or frozen until the Court and Family is satisfied. 

In cases of various religious customs some cadavers are released for burial only and if required by Court order they can be exhumed and examined further.