Charles is King of 15 countries - but for how much longer?

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On 5/5/2023 at 10:14 AM, RuamRudy said:

As much as a disliked the woman's politics, if she had been elected president then it would have been through a democratic process, and that same process would have allowed us the opportunity to remove her from office too. 

A bit like Putin and Xi......Riiiiiiiiiight...............

[RuamRudy]

Coronation fever sweeps across the British isles 

 

[transam]

1 hour ago, RuamRudy said:

Regardless of your feelings towards the monarchy, this should outrage every one of us - peaceful demonstrators arrested and their placards confiscated. Fascist regimes don't happen over night, but the UK is definitely on the road to dystopia.

 

 

Yes, any major UK event always draws the low-life fruitcakes out of the woodwork.

And they are lucky, the Coronation is on a Saturday, the dole offices will be closed...

[RuamRudy]

1 minute ago, transam said:

Yes, any major UK event always draws the low-life fruitcakes out of the woodwork.

And they are lucky, the Coronation is on a Saturday, the dole offices will be closed...

Your trivialising of this is the enabler that the government approves of. Well done.

[youreavinalaff]

On 5/5/2023 at 4:42 AM, RuamRudy said:

 Iam going to go out on a limb here - but might a website called royal central possibly have an inbuilt bias?

 

2 hours ago, RuamRudy said:

Regardless of your feelings towards the monarchy, this should outrage every one of us - peaceful demonstrators arrested and their placards confiscated. Fascist regimes don't happen over night, but the UK is definitely on the road to dystopia.

 

 

I'm going to go out on a limb here. Adam Bienkov is a republican and has bias.

 

He forgot to mention why they were arrested.

[RayC]

7 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

 

I'm going to ho out on a limb here. Adam Bienkov is a republican and has bias.

 

He forgot to mention why they were arrested.

Good question: Why were they arrested? 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/kings-coronation-anti-monarchy-group-leader-among-activists-arrested-on-way-to-protest-site-12874307

 

I need some some superglue. I'd better buy it online; I don't want to risk walking back from the shop with it and getting arrested.

[Mac Mickmanus]

2 hours ago, RuamRudy said:

Regardless of your feelings towards the monarchy, this should outrage every one of us - peaceful demonstrators arrested and their placards confiscated. Fascist regimes don't happen over night, but the UK is definitely on the road to dystopia.

 

 

Protestors seem to make a headlines at many events these days , they seem to disrupt many events by shouting and screaming , blocking passageways and throwing things around and sticking themselves to buildings and generally making a nuisance of themselves and calling everyone "fascists" when they get removed .

    There seems to be a competition these days among protestors to see who can get the most publicity from their stunts and its highly likely that protestors will try and disrupt todays ceremony  by throwing paint or whatever at the prepossession .

   Its about time they were lamped down upon , nothing but disruptive attention seeking nuisances .

   Its quite often White middle class kids going through their rebellions  stage as well 

    

[RuamRudy]

1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Protestors seem to make a headlines at many events these days , they seem to disrupt many events by shouting and screaming , blocking passageways and throwing things around and sticking themselves to buildings and generally making a nuisance of themselves and calling everyone "fascists" when they get removed .

    There seems to be a competition these days among protestors to see who can get the most publicity from their stunts and its highly likely that protestors will try and disrupt todays ceremony  by throwing paint or whatever at the prepossession .

   Its about time they were lamped down upon , nothing but disruptive attention seeking nuisances .

   Its quite often White middle class kids going through their rebellions  stage as well 

    

These people were not disrupting or interrupting anything. They were intending to exercise what I had presumed was their democratic right to protest. They hadn't even got as far as lifting up their placards. 

In short, they were doing nothing unlawful. They were arrested simply because of their political beliefs. 

Tell me what is acceptable about that.

[RuamRudy]

4 minutes ago, transam said:

They were lucky it is modern times, as I would have liked to see them put in the Pillory...............

 

 

What is it about freedom of thought that you dislike?

[RuamRudy]

25 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

 

I'm going to go out on a limb here. Adam Bienkov is a republican and has bias.

 

He forgot to mention why they were arrested.

Apparently even the police wouldn't tell them why they were arrested. 

[youreavinalaff]

Just now, RuamRudy said:

These people were not disrupting or interrupting anything. They were intending to exercise what I had presumed was their democratic right to protest. They hadn't even got as far as lifting up their placards. 

In short, they were doing nothing unlawful. They were arrested simply because of their political beliefs. 

Tell me what is acceptable about that.

The report said they had gone through police road blocks. They were also in possession of items that could be used to tie themselves to barriers. They were also seen in amongst crowds celebrating the coronation. All things they'd agreed not to do.

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1 minute ago, RuamRudy said:

These people were not disrupting or interrupting anything. They were intending to exercise what I had presumed was their democratic right to protest. They hadn't even got as far as lifting up their placards. 

In short, they were doing nothing unlawful. They were arrested simply because of their political beliefs. 

Tell me what is acceptable about that.

You are having a laugh.................????

 

You obviously know nothing about nipping a problem in the bud, but I don't expect anything else from an anti-Kingdom antagonist.....

[youreavinalaff]

Just now, RuamRudy said:

Apparently even the police wouldn't tell them why they were arrested. 

You've been selective reading again.

[Mac Mickmanus]

3 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

These people were not disrupting or interrupting anything. They were intending to exercise what I had presumed was their democratic right to protest. They hadn't even got as far as lifting up their placards. 

In short, they were doing nothing unlawful. They were arrested simply because of their political beliefs. 

Tell me what is acceptable about that.

Man 'banned from London by Met Police' for egging King Charles turns up anyway and insists he'd 'love to disrupt the coronation'

 

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/man-banned-from-london-by-met-police-for-egging-king-charles-turns-up-anyway-and-insists-he-d-love-to-disrupt-the-coronation/ar-AA1aONhM?ocid=mailsignout&pc=U591&cvid=63ecffcff7f94b55912bc10a288d31eb&ei=8#image=1

[Mac Mickmanus]

4 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

What is it about freedom of thought that you dislike?

He is quite welcome to kneel there and think about whatever he likes for as long as he likes 

[RuamRudy]

4 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

The report said they had gone through police road blocks. They were also in possession of items that could be used to tie themselves to barriers. They were also seen in amongst crowds celebrating the coronation. All things they'd agreed not to do.

What an utterly pathetic reason - their placards were tied together with string. 

We have a government so corrupt and weak that they are terrified of the people, and therefore make it illegal to be in public with string. 

The UK continues to make itself the laughing stock of the world.

[RuamRudy]

2 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

He is quite welcome to kneel there and think about whatever he likes for as long as he likes 

But he is not allowed to say what he really thinks in public? Ok - that's not unlike North Korea, but if you are happy with it, that's your opinion. And the government thanks you very much.

[RuamRudy]

8 minutes ago, transam said:

You are having a laugh.................????

 

You obviously know nothing about nipping a problem in the bud, but I don't expect anything else from an anti-Kingdom antagonist.....

They were attempting to exercise their right to freedom of political expression, you know, one of the things thousands of British servicemen died over the years to protect. And you are happy for it all to be taken away from us by a corrupt Tory government. 

[transam]

Just now, RuamRudy said:

What an utterly pathetic reason - their placards were tied together with string. 

We have a government so corrupt and weak that they are terrified of the people, and therefore make it illegal to be in public with string. 

The UK continues to make itself the laughing stock of the world.

No, you are making a laughingstock of yourself for protecting dysfunctional low-life, doing their best on getting attention for themselves and flucking things up......

[youreavinalaff]

4 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

What an utterly pathetic reason - their placards were tied together with string. 

We have a government so corrupt and weak that they are terrified of the people, and therefore make it illegal to be in public with string. 

The UK continues to make itself the laughing stock of the world.

Another case of selective reading.

[Mac Mickmanus]

3 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

But he is not allowed to say what he really thinks in public? Ok - that's not unlike North Korea, but if you are happy with it, that's your opinion. And the government thanks you very much.

He can go and say whatever he wants to people who want to hear what he wants to say .

   I don't want to listen to him or read his placards or even see him . 

   He is invading my television space and moaning and complaining about something . 

   He should go and moan and complain somewhere else and not bother everyone else 

[RuamRudy]

3 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

Another case of selective reading.

Not at all but you are certainly trying to twist the narrative. I suspect, in time it will be seen that, once again, the Met is acting outwith the law in suppressing legitimate dissent.

[RuamRudy]

1 minute ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

He can go and say whatever he wants to people who want to hear what he wants to say .

   I don't want to listen to him or read his placards or even see him . 

   He is invading my television space and moaning and complaining about something . 

   He should go and moan and complain somewhere else and not bother everyone else 

Then it's not freedom and you don't understand the concept.

[transam]

1 minute ago, RuamRudy said:

Then it's not freedom and you don't understand the concept.

Nor do your SNP crooks, eh.....

[youreavinalaff]

10 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

They were attempting to exercise their right to freedom of political expression, you know, one of the things thousands of British servicemen died over the years to protect. And you are happy for it all to be taken away from us by a corrupt Tory government. 

You mean like the idiot that climbed on a snooker table and stopped the event and people's enjoyment?

 

You mean like the idiot that glued tgemsekf to the road and created traffic mayhem?

 

How about the idiot that glued themselves to a goal post at a football match?

 

I gave no problem with protests. However, there is a line that needs to be drawn between protest and disruption. 

 

You are one for democracy. I would think the majority of people in London for the Coronation are there to enjoy it. Let the majority have it their way for the day. 

 

 

[Mac Mickmanus]

Just now, RuamRudy said:

Then it's not freedom and you don't understand the concept.

People shouldn't have the "freedom" to disrupt events and cause a disruption and invade other people space .

   They want to cause a disturbance and become famous for 15 minutes and hide behind "democracy" "Freedom of speech" "Grandfathers died for me to be able to do this" "Fascists"

    Freedom shouldn't allow people to be disruptive and be public nuisances 

[transam]

Just now, Mac Mickmanus said:

People shouldn't have the "freedom" to disrupt events and cause a disruption and invade other people space .

   They want to cause a disturbance and become famous for 15 minutes and hide behind "democracy" "Freedom of speech" "Grandfathers died for me to be able to do this" "Fascists"

    Freedom shouldn't allow people to be disruptive and be public nuisances 

He would not understand that............????

[RayC]

13 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

People shouldn't have the "freedom" to disrupt events and cause a disruption and invade other people space .

   They want to cause a disturbance and become famous for 15 minutes and hide behind "democracy" "Freedom of speech" "Grandfathers died for me to be able to do this" "Fascists"

    Freedom shouldn't allow people to be disruptive and be public nuisances 

If you read the Sky article which I posted earlier, the Republic UK protesters were in Trafalgar Square where the police agreed a protest would be permitted. 

 

The protester in St. James Park was arrested on a public order offence because he had a megaphone and the noise might upset the horses!! Upset police horses who are often deployed at football matches, large demonstrations, etc!!!

 

The police might have stronger grounds for detaining the 'egg protester' as he had stated that he would like to disrupt proceedings.

 

The whole point of a protest is to get your message heard. In a free society individuals have the right to protest and that freedom has been withdrawn. I don't understand how you and others can support this police action.

[StayinThailand2much]

On 5/4/2023 at 11:07 PM, Mac Mickmanus said:

Interesting .

In what way have Papa New Guinea , Tuvalu and St Kitts looked to the USA for support ?

I'm no expert, but I think, both, PNG and Tuvalu have in recent times looked more to Canberra and Wellington for support. Tuvalu also to Taiwan, and PNG in recent times very much to Beijing. Whether this will be to PNG's advantage, time will tell.

[transam]

1 minute ago, RayC said:

If you read the Sky article which I posted earlier, the Republic UK protesters were in Trafalgar Square where the police agreed a protest would be permitted. 

 

The protester in St. James Park was arrested on a public order offence because he had a megaphone and the noise might upset the horses!! Upset police horses who are often deployed at football matches, large demonstrations, etc!!!

 

The police might have stronger grounds for detaining the 'egg protester' as he had stated that he would like to disrupt proceedings.

 

The whole point of a protest is to get your message heard. In a free society individuals have the right to protest and that freedom has been withdrawn. I don't understand how you and others can support this police action.

If you were at the altar getting married, would you think it OK that your future wife's ex-boyfriend came in and started a ruck, as you seem to think that sort of stuff is OK, the "freedom thingy"...........?

Or would you stand aside and let him have his say, or would you escort the bloke by the scruff out of the proceedings...?   ????