Trump’s White House lawyer predicts he’ll end up in jail as Mar-a-Lago probe heats up

[pomchop]

And the only POTUS in recent memory or maybe ever who has not accepted his defeat at the polls after all recounts and court cases and investigations is Trump.  Refused to concede to Biden, refused to meet him at white house for traditional handshake.....a poor loser whose massive ego to this day continues to tell the BIG LIE with no credible evidence provided of significant voter fraud.  During the Gore Bush mess at least Gore had the class to concede when all his recounts and appeals failed....and that election was actually very close unlike the not even close electoral count that Biden won by...incidentally the exact same electoral vote that when trump had those numbers he bragged he won in a landslide.

 

A spoiled little rich boy that always got his way and then he didn't.  No better than a 2 year old throwing a tantrum because he did not get the ice cream cone he wanted.

 

Trumps term ended on Jan 20 and in spite of what he blabbers on and on about he is not now and has not been president since Jan 20....as for the VP even spineless Pence knew they had lost and that he had zero legal right to try and overthrow the election in spite of trumps demands and all those fine law abiding "patriots " attempt to storm the capitol to stop the vote and hang mike pence if they had the chance.

 

Yep that trump is a real class act and a grifter extraordinaire.

[bendejo]

On 5/19/2023 at 10:52 PM, 2009 said:

How is it a cult?

 

Amazing, so being patriotic is a cult? Better tell that to most countries. ????

Inciting sedition is patriotic?

Censorship and medical restrictions is freedom?

The ghost of George Orwell sits off to the side, nodding knowingly.

 

 

[Tug]

1 hour ago, pomchop said:

And the only POTUS in recent memory or maybe ever who has not accepted his defeat at the polls after all recounts and court cases and investigations is Trump.  Refused to concede to Biden, refused to meet him at white house for traditional handshake.....a poor loser whose massive ego to this day continues to tell the BIG LIE with no credible evidence provided of significant voter fraud.  During the Gore Bush mess at least Gore had the class to concede when all his recounts and appeals failed....and that election was actually very close unlike the not even close electoral count that Biden won by...incidentally the exact same electoral vote that when trump had those numbers he bragged he won in a landslide.

 

A spoiled little rich boy that always got his way and then he didn't.  No better than a 2 year old throwing a tantrum because he did not get the ice cream cone he wanted.

 

Trumps term ended on Jan 20 and in spite of what he blabbers on and on about he is not now and has not been president since Jan 20....as for the VP even spineless Pence knew they had lost and that he had zero legal right to try and overthrow the election in spite of trumps demands and all those fine law abiding "patriots " attempt to storm the capitol to stop the vote and hang mike pence if they had the chance.

 

Yep that trump is a real class act and a grifter extraordinaire.

Who did lots of sketchy things illegal things with an incredibly big stupid mouth giving more and more evidence every day the only reason that man isn’t in the penitentiary is because of he was potus and wealthy that’s it anyone else would be in a supermax prison never again to be seen or heard from again personally I hope that’s right were his big mouth puts him!

[fusion58]

On 5/20/2023 at 11:59 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

Also, how does an individual respond when asked to return documents that are in their possession?

 

Do they not even wait to be asked and self report while immediately returning documents and willingly welcome a thorough search for more.

 

Or do they refuse to return the documents, hide the documents, lie about the documents, encourage others to lie about the documents?

 

 

Those are the sort of critical distinctions IQ45’s fan bois are happy to ignore.

 

What happens if tRump does go to prison?
 

Does he summon the confederate army again for another riot?

[Tug]

35 minutes ago, fusion58 said:

Those are the sort of critical distinctions IQ45’s fan bois are happy to ignore.

 

What happens if tRump does go to prison?
 

Does he summon the confederate army again for another riot?

I don’t think so he’s been blovating crying and begging his maga nuts to fight for his sorry rear end nothing so far so no I don’t think so perhaps an isolated incident or two but no more that that now he’s settled in to trying to tank the economy cause he can’t handle rejection a very sore loser indeed 

[pomchop]

40 minutes ago, fusion58 said:

Those are the sort of critical distinctions IQ45’s fan bois are happy to ignore.

 

What happens if tRump does go to prison?
 

Does he summon the confederate army again for another riot?

 I grew up in the south.  In those days if a loud mouth orange haired yankee had shown up in the south he would have gotten the crap beat out of himself by all the good ole boys. 

 

The preachers would have railed on and on against the thrice divorced, bankrupting, gold plated, grifter king who grabbed em by the pxxxsy,  called POW's losers, made fun of crippled people, scoffed at the meek, encouraged and praised violence and constantly bragged about how perfect he was and couldn't think of anything he had ever done wrong.

 

The only trait that I can see that Trump shared with the southern evangelical bible thumping good ole boys is racism and hate for any immigrants that don't look like them (and perhaps a desire to also "grab em by the pxxxsy and lust after their own women kinfolk)

 

I would like to think that by now a few of the southern boys are starting to realize they have been conned by a fast talking yankee that has used them over and over to give him $$ and cheer his lies.

 

Of course we are generally not talking the most educated sharpest tools in the tool box and many of them are the type to never admit they were wrong or got conned even though many of them know deep inside that is what happened,  Their hatred for Hillary as an "elite" new yorker and their belief  in most of the lies and conspiracy theories pushed by fox "news" coupled with a deep held racism convinced many that trump was the "savior" they had been waiting for who would drain the swamp and take America back to the good ole days.

 

Now of course many buy into the "witch hunt" theory that little donnie constantly pushes and still send the man who bragged he is "very , very, very rich" and would never need anyone else $$ .  Many will still send their hard earned wages, welfare and social security to him just as they have done for decades to all the evangelicals on TV that fly around in private jets and live in mansions.  It seems some people just love to be lied to and made fools of by fast slick dog talkers.

 

BUT as a southerner I do see a lot of cracks forming in his red neck/evangelical coalition and notice that the trump flags and signs and Maga hats that were once everywhere are now few and far between. 

 

Naturally if/when trump is tried and convicted of a litany of crimes many will still scream witch hunt but I also think that a lot of them have had about enough of the orange new yorker though they are embarrassed to admit they got conned.

 

We shall see but without the southern electoral block of votes trump has zero chance of becoming POTUS again.  Zero.

[bendejo]

On 5/20/2023 at 7:56 AM, Tug said:

That is a possibility but I take heart in the fact of how fast a jury absolutely flushed him in 3 hours no less in the Jen Carroll trial

It wasn't the first time.  In some of the stolen election-related trials the jury sat down and had their consensus right off, took more time to walk from the courtroom to the jury room.  They decided to hold off the announcement until after lunch -- the court pays for the lunch.  Everybody appreciates a free lunch.

 

From reading the accounts of the lawyers who are jumping ship, I get the impression DT knows he's going to be convicted.  According to Parlatore, who quit the defense team, he said he was hired for defense but other lawyers on the team were sabotaging any defense he came up with.  I suspect DT is playing to be the Grand MAGA Martyr, the poor, persecuted narcissist.

Former Trump lawyer accuses current Trump lawyer of interfering with classified documents searches

 

I don’t think so he’s been bloviating crying and begging his maga nuts to fight for his sorry rear end

And get them to send him $$$.  He can sucker them out of millions per month -- like Gene Hackman's recurring line in Bonnie and Clyde "don't kill that cow!"

 

 

[bendejo]

Something that is not coming up in the discussion is who had access to these documents while they were in DT's possession, either during his term or after he lost the office.  This could possibly go to treason -- I don't think the US gov't would care enough about the well-being of a traitor to provide protection, he'll be just another convicted felon.  IMO he's going to do a Thaksin, and from abroad he can keep his MAGA money stream flowing. 

 

 

[2009]

4 hours ago, bendejo said:

Inciting sedition is patriotic?

Censorship and medical restrictions is freedom?

The ghost of George Orwell sits off to the side, nodding knowingly.

 

 

Care to elaborate on this babble?

[bendejo]

 

4 hours ago, 2009 said:

Care to elaborate on this babble?

I don't see any babble here.  Are you referring to your previous posts?

You either get it or you don't. 

 

[billd766]

13 hours ago, kwonitoy said:

The office of President and Vice President officially ends at 12:00 noon on Jan 20

 

That's why you see second term winners taking the oath of office again.

Thank you for the information.

[ThailandRyan]

Trump seems to have now lost a Mega Donor which wont be helping him fund his defense funds as he heads into the next several lawsuits against him

 

Donald Trump Megadonor Abandons Him As He Predicts Collapse in Support (newsweek.com)

 

Hal Lambert, founder and CEO of Texas-based Point Bridge Capital, said he wants to "do a lot to help DeSantis win" amid strong speculation the Florida governor will confirm his presidential campaign in the coming days.

 

Lambert, who set up an exchange-traded fund named after the former president's Make America Great Again 2016 campaign slogan, MAGA ETF, and previously served on Trump's inaugural committee in 2016, told the New York Post that he decided to back DeSantis after meeting with him and wife in Florida three weeks ago.

 

Lambert said he was also put off by Trump's recent CNN town hall, where the former president continued to falsely claim the 2020 Election was "rigged."

[bendejo]

6 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

Lambert said he was also put off by Trump's recent CNN town hall, where the former president continued to falsely claim the 2020 Election was "rigged."

"2020 election was stolen" is his 2024 platform.  He's holding onto it like a soi dog with a pork bone. 

In 2016 he started the stolen election thing a few weeks before election day, the media should replay those bits and take him to task along the lines of "so YOU stole the 2016 election?"
 

 

[bamnutsak]

trump will never ever go to jail.

 

If/when convicted Biden would commute his sentence (assumes a Federal crime, so Georgia is still on my mind I guess).

 

We'll just have to be satisifed with the copious orange make-up and forego the jumpsuit.

 

 

[bendejo]

Maybe not jail for document mishandling, but treason or sedition? 

 

[Jingthing]

2 hours ago, bamnutsak said:

trump will never ever go to jail.

 

If/when convicted Biden would commute his sentence (assumes a Federal crime, so Georgia is still on my mind I guess).

 

We'll just have to be satisifed with the copious orange make-up and forego the jumpsuit.

 

 

Biden would do no such thing.

But if it comes to sentencing  he won't be treated exactly the same as a regular citizen and the majority of Americans would understand why that would make sense