chrischronic Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 In my experience, throughout all my years of smoking in the USA and Canada, we would always smoke whole flowers. However, here in Thailand, the people I have interacted with grind it up. Whether it's a bong or a pipe, it's always ground up. Personally, I don't like it because I feel like a lot is wasted, especially in a bong where it can get sucked through into the water before it's burnt. In the US, we would always load the whole flower and savor the first hit of the greens. What do you all think, and do your peers in your country grind it up? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bamnutsak Posted May 22, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 22, 2023 Grind. (joint or dry herb vape) Don't know anyone who doesn't, unless they don't have a grinder. Personal choice. You shouldn't grind if you don't want to. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBiker Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 How can you roll a joint without first grinding it up? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KhunLA Posted May 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2023 Never grind, and actually, didn't know it was a thing until recently. If grinding, and smoking a joint, it would either falls out, and too tight to get a draw on it. Fine for pipes/bongs, but as pointed out, a lot wasted. Maybe why they don't grind tobacco. Obviously some savvy seller thought up the idea of grinding to sell more. Always when buying, nobody wanted a bag with a lot of 'shake' or seeds in it. Days/decades past, as all buds now. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrischronic Posted May 23, 2023 Author Share Posted May 23, 2023 1 hour ago, MrBiker said: How can you roll a joint without first grinding it up? Yeah for sure gotta grind for joints but grinding for pipes and bongs is popular here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BritManToo Posted May 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, KhunLA said: Never grind, and actually, didn't know it was a thing until recently. If grinding, and smoking a joint, it would either falls out, and too tight to get a draw on it. Fine for pipes/bongs, but as pointed out, a lot wasted. Maybe why they don't grind tobacco. Obviously some savvy seller thought up the idea of grinding to sell more. Always when buying, nobody wanted a bag with a lot of 'shake' or seeds in it. Days/decades past, as all buds now. Don't understand a lot of posts about cannabis. You grind it and you roll it, nothing falls out. Although I always use cones, so more like pinching and ramming. The flowers won't fit in the cones, you have to break the flower up first. Another thing I don't understand. All the people that take a hit and are immediately effected ........ wtf? I don't feel anything until about 10 mins after smoking, reaching full effect 30-60 minutes after smoking. I can actually overdose before feeling anything, so normally I smoke 0.5gm then stop and wait. How do you guys get instant highs? Edited May 23, 2023 by BritManToo 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamnutsak Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, chrischronic said: Yeah for sure gotta grind for joints but grinding for pipes and bongs is popular here. Popular everywhere. You have to break down a bud for a bong hit, and you will get a better hit (air flow, better burn, less butane used) with ground product. You can pick it apart with your hands or some other appliance. A grinder delivers a uniform result. Maybe you should share your technique(s)? I use a 4-stage aluminum grinder ~ 63 mm in diameter. For daily smokers maybe get a larger one? I get an instant effect, ~ 60 sec, faster with a 90% vape stick (where those are legal), but that may be down to tolerance/usage patterns. I smoke/vape infrequently, haven't indulged since just before Songkran. Edited May 23, 2023 by bamnutsak 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, BritManToo said: Don't understand a lot of posts about cannabis. You grind it and you roll it, nothing falls out. Although I always use cones, so more like pinching and ramming. The flowers won't fit in the cones, you have to break the flower up first. Another thing I don't understand. All the people that take a hit and are immediately effected ........ wtf? I don't feel anything until about 10 mins after smoking, reaching full effect 30-60 minutes after smoking. I can actually overdose before feeling anything, so normally I smoke 0.5gm then stop and wait. How do you guys get instant highs? No instant buzz, but before done smoking 0.5 gr, I'm already relaxing. Finish the beer, off the veranda, start the movie, and it's kicked in by then. After movie ... time for that snack .... repeat. Only smoke at sunset and beyond. So not to get de-energized during the day. I'm lazy enough. Do you hold the cone horizonal or vertical ? I break up the buds as small as my fingernails (not a biter of) will get, and my doobies resemble a nice Pall Mall, about same size, thickness, 1gr ttl wt. Smoke 1/2 at a setting, usually requiring a relight, as a tote or 2, sip or 2, then the damn thing might be out. Occasionally draw enough to not require a relighting, but rare. Usually burns even, sign of a good roll w/years of experience to perfect. Other half might get smoked in couple weeks or next month .. yea, I smoke that infrequent, and usually alone, as wife rarely indulges. Edited May 23, 2023 by KhunLA 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n00dle Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 20 hours ago, chrischronic said: throughout all my years of smoking in the USA and Canada, we would always smoke whole flowers. However, here in Thailand, the people I have interacted with grind it up. Canadian, smoked dope around the world. Alwyas ground. In fact i dont know anyone who doesnt grind or chop the weed before rolling or smoking in a bong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n00dle Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 2 hours ago, KhunLA said: Fine for pipes/bongs, but as pointed out, a lot wasted. Maybe why they don't grind tobacco. Obviously some savvy seller thought up the idea of grinding to sell more. what twaddle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildpuppet72 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 39 minutes ago, BritManToo said: Don't understand a lot of posts about cannabis. You grind it and you roll it, nothing falls out. Although I always use cones, so more like pinching and ramming. The flowers won't fit in the cones, you have to break the flower up first. Another thing I don't understand. All the people that take a hit and are immediately effected ........ wtf? I don't feel anything until about 10 mins after smoking, reaching full effect 30-60 minutes after smoking. I can actually overdose before feeling anything, so normally I smoke 0.5gm then stop and wait. How do you guys get instant highs? Try some good weed and you will get hit right away I smoked for 30 years and smoke some good quality weed here imported and it hits me after 10 sec or first hit 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SamuiGrower Posted May 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2023 Is there any science behind grinding weed? Funny you should ask? Yes. All the yummy organoleptic properties (taste, aroma, smells and flavors) are in the trichomes. The rest, vegetal matter, carbs, lignin and cellulose. Weed is more than THC. Flavones, terpenes, polyphenols and other cannabinoids will be delivered more uniformly in every hit with grinding and deliver a fuller ‘experience’. Uniform combustion and delivery assures a faster onset through the blood-brain barrier. To grind or not to grind? That is the question. The answer: grind. (IMHO, of course! ????) 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 16 minutes ago, n00dle said: what twaddle. YMMV Just my experience of trying to roll doobie with 'powder', shake of years past. Krap doobie, that doesn't burn even, falls out, or hard draw. Up in smoke or through the screen in a pipe or bong, and a bit of a waste. Only way to cut waste completely is 1 hit pipe/bong of buds. Too much hassle for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 36 minutes ago, wildpuppet72 said: Try some good weed and you will get hit right away I smoked for 30 years and smoke some good quality weed here imported and it hits me after 10 sec or first hit I grow my own, shared some with 5 other forum members and they all agreed it was as good as most. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, KhunLA said: YMMV Just my experience of trying to roll doobie with 'powder', shake of years past. Krap doobie, that doesn't burn even, falls out, or hard draw. Up in smoke or through the screen in a pipe or bong, and a bit of a waste. Only way to cut waste completely is 1 hit pipe/bong of buds. Too much hassle for me. Yes, I'm not surprised that doesn't burn right. These all burn evenly and don't go out. Nothing falls out as it's evenly packed with a chopstick. Edited May 23, 2023 by BritManToo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post quake Posted May 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2023 (edited) Thread kind of reminds me of the CAMRA snobs over real ale beer in the uk, back in the day. Just smoke it. you will be fine. Not think to mut. Edited May 23, 2023 by quake 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fuehrio Posted May 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2023 2 hours ago, BritManToo said: Don't understand a lot of posts about cannabis. You grind it and you roll it, nothing falls out. Although I always use cones, so more like pinching and ramming. The flowers won't fit in the cones, you have to break the flower up first. Another thing I don't understand. All the people that take a hit and are immediately effected ........ wtf? I don't feel anything until about 10 mins after smoking, reaching full effect 30-60 minutes after smoking. I can actually overdose before feeling anything, so normally I smoke 0.5gm then stop and wait. How do you guys get instant highs? For me, the art of making a joint is rolling backwards, i.e. the glue part is on the outside and all the redundant paper is peeled off. Cones a good alternative but I am faster by rolling and not getting nervous with the filling up. 1 hour ago, SamuiGrower said: Is there any science behind grinding weed? Funny you should ask? Yes. All the yummy organoleptic properties (taste, aroma, smells and flavors) are in the trichomes. The rest, vegetal matter, carbs, lignin and cellulose. Weed is more than THC. Flavones, terpenes, polyphenols and other cannabinoids will be delivered more uniformly in every hit with grinding and deliver a fuller ‘experience’. Uniform combustion and delivery assures a faster onset through the blood-brain barrier. To grind or not to grind? That is the question. The answer: grind. (IMHO, of course! ????) I never used a grinder for 30 years and I even had one for a long time but never used until a friend invited for a smoke insisted on it. Since then, always grinding. It burns much better and yes I think it has a stronger effect. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, BritManToo said: Yes, I'm not surprised that doesn't burn right. These all burn evenly and don't go out. Nothing falls out as it's evenly packed with a chopstick. OK, that all makes sense, cones and a bit of compression would solve the issues of years past attempt to roll ground/shake. 2 hours ago, wildpuppet72 said: Try some good weed and you will get hit right away I smoked for 30 years and smoke some good quality weed here imported and it hits me after 10 sec or first hit For 500-600 baht a gr saved, I can wait 1-2 minutes for than next toke or 2. Edited May 23, 2023 by KhunLA 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildpuppet72 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 6 hours ago, BritManToo said: I grow my own, shared some with 5 other forum members and they all agreed it was as good as most. Send me a sample I will be honest to you then and I give you a sample of my stash ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildpuppet72 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 4 hours ago, KhunLA said: OK, that all makes sense, cones and a bit of compression would solve the issues of years past attempt to roll ground/shake. For 500-600 baht a gr saved, I can wait 1-2 minutes for than next toke or 2. Actually not that expensive not in that range at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KhunLA Posted May 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, wildpuppet72 said: Actually not that expensive not in that range at all My last purchases were 8 & 14 baht a gram ... so way more than I'd want to pay for a wee bit faster buzz. Edited May 23, 2023 by KhunLA 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post n00dle Posted May 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 24, 2023 On 5/23/2023 at 11:06 AM, wildpuppet72 said: Try some good weed and you will get hit right away I smoked for 30 years and smoke some good quality weed here imported and it hits me after 10 sec or first hit try understanding that it hits different people differently. Some weed just creeps. sure you feel something while you are still holding the joint or the baong. but you dont feel the real effects for at leat 15 minutes, sometimes longer. As for smoking for 30 years, that is hardly an accompishment given the age of most on this forum. Besides there are folks out there that have been having sex for 30 years who stil don know what the fok they are doing, 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post n00dle Posted May 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 24, 2023 On 5/23/2023 at 11:34 AM, KhunLA said: YMMV Just my experience of trying to roll doobie with 'powder', shake of years past. Krap doobie, that doesn't burn even, falls out, or hard draw. Up in smoke or through the screen in a pipe or bong, and a bit of a waste. Only way to cut waste completely is 1 hit pipe/bong of buds. Too much hassle for me. if you are getting powder you are doing something very wrong. Your weed is simply too dry. find something better. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post n00dle Posted May 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 24, 2023 (edited) On 5/23/2023 at 11:34 AM, KhunLA said: YMMV Just my experience of trying to roll doobie with 'powder', shake of years past. Krap doobie, that doesn't burn even, falls out, or hard draw. Up in smoke or through the screen in a pipe or bong, and a bit of a waste. Only way to cut waste completely is 1 hit pipe/bong of buds. Too much hassle for me. wtf is that thing? you know its illegal to force children or small domestic animals to roll joints right? Edited May 24, 2023 by n00dle 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, n00dle said: wtf is that thing? Its laughable. you know its illegal to force children or small domestic animals to roll joints right? Think it's called a cigarettes', joint. 1 gr net ganga, and burns evenly, and slowly. If I pay attention, doesn't need to be relit. What more do you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n00dle Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 6 minutes ago, KhunLA said: a cigarettes', joint now you are just making things up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 11 minutes ago, n00dle said: if you are getting powder you are doing something very wrong. Your weed is simply too dry. find something better. NO, no powder here, and all quite nice buds. Break up nicely, and roll up nice, to allow a good draw. Speaking of years past, before primo buds hit the market, and you'd have some shake at the bottom of your bag, hopefully very little. Which was a pain in the A$$ to smoke, unless having a bong. Would not roll up correctly or would pass thru the pipe screen ... annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAnotherHun Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, KhunLA said: NO, no powder here What "Powder"? It's not powder that comes out after grinding buds. A grinder garantees your reefer to burn down nicely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 1 minute ago, JustAnotherHun said: What "Powder"? It's not powder that comes out after grinding buds. A grinder garantees your reefer to burn down nicely. Does that without grinding. Don't bite my nails, so no problem prepping to roll a doobie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAnotherHun Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 1 minute ago, KhunLA said: Does that without grinding. Don't bite my nails, so no problem prepping to roll a doobie. A joint like that on your pic above? That looks more like a rolled up face mask ???? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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