vandeventer Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 12 hours ago, Hanaguma said: Seems like a load of crap poem, platitudes and bromides and veiled political references. Stultifying in its own pretentious and ponderous verbage. The only reason it was picked for the inauguration is that it is long. Very long. Which kept the President elect from having to speak too much. I wonder how far he would have got if he "read" it without screwing it all up? Actions are much stronger than words these days. A nice poem but very long. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanaguma Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 So in sum, no books or poems were banned. Three or four books were moved from one shelf in a school library to another shelf in the same library. Leftist hysteria can be safely ignored. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: So in sum, no books or poems were banned. Three or four books were moved from one shelf in a school library to another shelf in the same library. Leftist hysteria can be safely ignored. The removal of a book from a library is removing it from access. Within the school’s jurisdiction over the library access to that poem has been banned. Rightwing cancel culture on full display. Edited May 25, 2023 by Chomper Higgot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanaguma Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 11 hours ago, placeholder said: So not banned from elementary schools? Nope. Anyone who wants a copy of the book or books can freely buy them online/at a shop, carry them to the school, and read them at leisure. So no, not banned. Just not in the elementary section of the school library. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will B Good Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 Funny how the M&M brigade are so vehemently denigrating this poem to the extent they support its withdrawal (or pretend it is not really being withdrawn)......isn't that wokism? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 13 hours ago, chickenslegs said: What does this part of the poem reference? Are you claiming that the type of parents who have complained about it could have been able to read and decrypt it? It's very unlikely 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenslegs Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, candide said: Are you claiming that the type of parents who have complained about it could have been able to read and decrypt it? It's very unlikely Not claiming anything. It was a question. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, candide said: Are you claiming that the type of parents who have complained about it could have been able to read and decrypt it? It's very unlikely You got that right, in fact the parent who complained about this poem wrote in the complaint form that it was authored by Oprah Winfrey and she wanted the truth be told about Cuba......lol. Form is in the link below. Salinas told the publication in Spanish that she’s “not for eliminating or censoring any books” but instead wants children to be taught “the truth” about Cuba. According to the complainant datelined March 29, 2023, Gorman is mistaken for 69-year-old talk show host Oprah Winfrey as the poem’s author. It is unclear what lines in “The Hill We Climb” Salinas objected to and the poem does not directly reference Cuba at any point. https://nypost.com/2023/05/24/amanda-gormans-biden-inauguration-poem-banned-from-miami-school/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bamnutsak Posted May 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 25, 2023 IMLE The best way to get kids interested in something is to restrict access to it. The American Library Association, at the request of the Washington Post just did an analysis of school-banned books. Objection to sexual, LGBTQ content propels spike in book challenges An analysis of book challenges from across the nation shows the majority were filed by just 11 people 42% contained LGBQT+ references 28% had characters of color or dealt with race https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/05/23/lgbtq-book-ban-challengers/ Personally I think it is good that the right wingnut jobs are pushing so hard on these social progress issues. They look nuttier and nuttier with each passing day, and the majority of Americans do not support being ruled by the tyrannical minority. It will snap back severely for these nutjobs. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onthedarkside Posted May 25, 2023 Author Share Posted May 25, 2023 Racist slur post reported and removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Hanaguma said: So in sum, no books or poems were banned. Three or four books were moved from one shelf in a school library to another shelf in the same library. Leftist hysteria can be safely ignored. So, in sum, this book, like many others was targeted due to right wing hysteria and moved for the obviously fake reason that it was done to protect children. Required Florida training tells educators to ‘err on the side of caution’ for library materials The training also makes clear that teachers violating the restrictions could face a felony charge, which can result in up to 5 years in prison. https://www.k12dive.com/news/Florida-required-library-teacher-training-CRT/640952/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanaguma Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 17 minutes ago, placeholder said: So, in sum, this book, like many others was targeted due to right wing hysteria and moved for the obviously fake reason that it was done to protect children. Required Florida training tells educators to ‘err on the side of caution’ for library materials The training also makes clear that teachers violating the restrictions could face a felony charge, which can result in up to 5 years in prison. https://www.k12dive.com/news/Florida-required-library-teacher-training-CRT/640952/ Too bad the article, like so many, is vague on precisely what that felony charge would be. Perhaps providing explicit materials to minors? And yes, "err on the side of caution" is a good policy for a school library to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: Too bad the article, like so many, is vague on precisely what that felony charge would be. Perhaps providing explicit materials to minors? And yes, "err on the side of caution" is a good policy for a school library to follow. You've hit the nail on the head. The criteria for what would constitute a felony are vague. It's the same problem that crops up with abortion laws. Neither librarians nor doctors know what the limits are so prefer to err on the side of caution. As for erring on the side of caution being a good thing, maybe not so much when right wong loons are waging war on the schools. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Mist Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 A reported troll post with vulgar language has been removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanaguma Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, placeholder said: You've hit the nail on the head. The criteria for what would constitute a felony are vague. It's the same problem that crops up with abortion laws. Neither librarians nor doctors know what the limits are so prefer to err on the side of caution. As for erring on the side of caution being a good thing, maybe not so much when right wong loons are waging war on the schools. Just did some digging. According to Snopes, the law you are referring to does NOT have any penalties associated with it. The whole felony thing is related to a long pre-existing law that prohibits distributing pornography to minors. https://www.snopes.com/news/2023/02/01/felony-charges-unapproved-books/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 Turns out that Salinas who made the complaint on the poem used to post nazi and right wing propoganda on her facebook page. Months before a Miami-area mother persuaded a local school to restrict access to an Amanda Gorman poem, she was posting antisemitic memes on her Facebook page. Now, Daily Salinas is apologizing for one of those things — and unrepentant about the other. “I want to apologize to the Jewish community,” Salinas told the Jewish Telegraphic Agency on Wednesday. She was saying sorry for a Facebook post she shared in March offering a summary of “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion,” a notorious antisemitic forgery written more than a century ago in Russia. https://www.timesofisrael.com/florida-mom-who-sought-to-ban-amanda-gorman-poem-sorry-for-protocols-facebook-post/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now