Future Thailand PM at odds with cannabis sellers and government over drug law reform

[Bday Prang]

1 hour ago, Gilligan In Drag said:

Some random reactions, thoughts/possible brain farts:

 

-Its not entirely fair to judge the guy and MFP yet on their statements, but what they're proposing here, its not a good look

right out of the starting block. MFP does not seem to be much of a bunch of realists, I can't imagine

displacing the alcohol duopoly as they are proposing would be doable.

The alcohol duopoly is what and where it is because they are politically powerfull.

Which begs the question, who do these people think they are anyway?  

Who is backing them, where would their support lie that they could

break up one of the more powerful business/political interests in Thailand?

One wonders if they are not simply the public face of another would be totalitarian military

group or even internationalist/globalist concern. In either of those cases perhaps then MFP

would be able to knock the stuffing out of the so-called alcohol duopoly. But, until I know better,

I would simply call his bluff on both reversing cannabis de-criminalization and breaking

the alcohol industry giants stranglehold on Thailand. He's not the Prime minister yet so

why not just start saying things and proposing things you think will garner further support

to help in your bid to cement a ruling party position.

 

 

- A condescending, I know better older brotherly look to his body language in the photo. But that is what people get out of government mostly anywhere you go, the sense that a parental or big brother is looking out for them and they don't have to solve their own problems. Personally, that photo (Thaiger is jumping the gun aren't they, future prime minister? Really?) kind of gets on my nerves, he looks like hes just gotten through lecturing them about the evils of cannabis. He's quite urban Chinese-Thai looking (no surprise there) and as I understand it cannabis is traditionally more something rural Lao/Isaan peoples and other outlander areas have found important. If you are going to be proper and acceptable as a politician among the Bangkok controlling elites and their conservative supporters, you'd do well, to say you want to get rid of the cannabis shops and put upcountry rural things like cannabis where they belong, criminalized and kicked to the curb.

 

-The cannabis drama is also serving as a distraction from more real and harmful drug and other health issues  such as yaba, severe air pollution, completely unregulated and out of control use of toxic and internationally banned substances in food and in use in agriculture and Thailand made products. Also again corruption makes it impossible to regaulate thngs that need regulation for people's health, so it better to deflect to easy targets like cannabis just as in the west for what, the last 80 years. Like most politicians in the world, he appears only concerned with putting on a good puppet show. Not surprising but no less disappointing.

 

-Does it matter is what I also ask. The whole planet appears to be descending into a horrific phase of

deliberate economic obliteration, the consequences of fiat currency printing will collapse most countries currencies, I can't iaine the Thai economy would be largely unaffected by this if only because soon nearly no one would be able to afford to travel to Thailand. . The unipolar globalist US-UK-European hegemon is in deep trouble and some  extreme measures and strategies are already being undertaken to maintain their grip. One example would be the One Health WHO revamp that will be signed in October, which transforms WHO from a group that recommends govts to take actions to one that dictates to all WHO signatories and which, in the event of even a potential threat to public health, in the sole estimation of the WHO, no actual threat necessary, cedes all sovreignty and governance of said countries to the WHO. We know the WHO has become a club to further the interests of its donors, so those who will be asked to sign the One Health treaty will certainly do so, it is fait accompli. The US is already trying to respond, there are two bills in conress, one to quit the WHO and one that orders an end to all funding of the WHO, if you are a US citizen contact your reps and tell them you support these bills. But, Thailand will no doubt not even be aware such usurpation and in effect  colonization of their coutry is soon at hand. MFP may well, by 2025 find itself set aside and only serving as a globalist errand boy to deliver the globalist dictates. The United Nations is in a similar rev up in case health emergencies don;t work to get absolute control of the planet. There is much coverage on all of this if you look around, truly jaw dropping and utterly terrifying. Makes MFP or not to MFP kind of irrelevant it would seem.

 

 

 

You touched on some good points ( or rather very bad points) the issues regarding the WHO and the UN (don't forget the WEF too) that you highlighted are  indeed very very worrying.  We can certainly expect a lot more "fear"  to be directed at us along with a good deal of deflection and distraction,and of course the silencing of any body with views that contradict the "narrative"no matter how valid those views maybe. This is already well underway,anybody who has not noticed is either blind or has already succumbed

 

[stevenrossvanduyn]

On 5/25/2023 at 1:19 AM, Bday Prang said:

          Cannabis is nowhere near as addictive as cigarettes, where do they get this misinformation from?  And what difference would  a prescription make ?  It certainly hasn't helped the millions who are addicted to valium and other antidepressants that  the quacks hand out like toffees

        "medical" cannabis is a relatively  new thing  how many of these quacks are even qualified or experienced in prescribing it at all

          After smoking it for over 40 years with no ill effects , no depression , no suicidal thoughts and no schizophrenia I certainly don't need a guy in a white coat or anybody else to "advise" me about cannabis and will continue to "self medicate" until I go to meet my maker

 

But there are many people  that effect them in a bad way

[Bday Prang]

4 hours ago, stevenrossvanduyn said:

But there are many people  that effect them in a bad way

  But but but... There are people that are adversely affected by peanuts, should we require everybody to take an allergy test before they are issued peanuts under prescription from a doctor?

[jacko45k]

1 minute ago, Bday Prang said:

  But but but... There are people that are adversely affected by peanuts, should we require everybody to take an allergy test before they are issued peanuts under prescription from a doctor?

Why are doctors prescribing peanuts?

[CartagenaWarlock]

On 5/24/2023 at 6:57 PM, hotchilli said:

But you will have to see a doctor to get one, not just walk into any high street weed shop and buy what you like, as it is now.

So, prescription is just a ruse to introduce a nexus of corruption between private and public sectors.

[Jingthing]

10 minutes ago, CartagenaWarlock said:

So, prescription is just a ruse to introduce a nexus of corruption between private and public sectors.

My guess is it may go much further than that.

"Medical" preparations, tinctures, etc. are much HIGHER PROFIT cannabis products than the very popular flower. I also assume they want to lock in taxation. I have no problem with the taxation part but although what we have now is a relative free for all where this is headed could be a grade A bummer.

[Bday Prang]

On 5/24/2023 at 4:51 PM, snoop1130 said:

Addiction to cannabis is harder

          Addiction to Viagra produces even harder side effects, although they can normally be "shaken off" without too much effort

          All this hand wringing and pearl clutching about "doctors prescriptions" being required reminds me of the predictable response from the media and others when Viagra was first launched

Immediately it was

                         "only to be issued under strict medical supervision"

                         " suitable only for people suffering for example from the side effects of prostate cancer surge                               " should never be used "recreationally"

                          " carries a serious potential for abuse"

                          " serious side effects"  ( that a prescription that  would miraculously negate of course)

           All seems to have gone quite now that the initial hysteria has subsided

 

Personally I only use  "Viagra Light"  minimal effects in a bedroom situation but helps improve ones "look" when wearing a pair of speedos

[hotchilli]

4 hours ago, CartagenaWarlock said:

So, prescription is just a ruse to introduce a nexus of corruption between private and public sectors.

No it's a law regulation to allow use as a prescribed medicine as are other drugs, not freely available over the counter as seems the case with cannabis.

[RandolphGB]

On 5/25/2023 at 9:39 AM, Bday Prang said:

Contrary to what some idiots predicted  society has not collapsed and the sky has not fallen in

Looks bloody horrible though with all the neon cannabis signs along Sukhumvit Road. Or walking around seeing some backpacker who hasn't washed for a week taking bong hits outside a cafe.  

[bamnutsak]

4 minutes ago, RandolphGB said:

Looks bloody horrible though with all the neon cannabis signs along Sukhumvit Road.

Agreed. We all prefer empty shophouses, with no rental income, no one employed, and the property deteriorating.

 

And what's with all the neon on Yoawarat Road. Bloody horrible.

 

6 minutes ago, RandolphGB said:

Or walking around seeing some backpacker who hasn't washed for a week taking bong hits outside a cafe.  

Yes, this whole backpacker thing is a brand new phenomenon. ????

[RandolphGB]

1 hour ago, bamnutsak said:

Agreed. We all prefer empty shophouses, with no rental income, no one employed, and the property deteriorating.

 

And what's with all the neon on Yoawarat Road. Bloody horrible.

 

Yes, this whole backpacker thing is a brand new phenomenon. ????

The shophouses are likely to be occupied by legitimate businesses in line with the general gentrification of the area. 

[bamnutsak]

9 minutes ago, RandolphGB said:

The shophouses are likely to be occupied by legitimate businesses in line with the general gentrification of the area. 

 

"likely"?

 

So landlords should have held out for legitimate businesses, and gentrification, in order to gain higher rents?

 

The general consensus here is that no one patronizes these Cannabis shops, there are too many, so they will probably close quickly, and remain empty again, until "gentrification" arrives.

 

 

 

 

[h90]

On 5/26/2023 at 10:13 AM, Jingthing said:

My guess is it may go much further than that.

"Medical" preparations, tinctures, etc. are much HIGHER PROFIT cannabis products than the very popular flower. I also assume they want to lock in taxation. I have no problem with the taxation part but although what we have now is a relative free for all where this is headed could be a grade A bummer.

Yes I complete agree. Weed grows like....weed, so it costs almost nothing....You can do it in the garden. And than think of going into a hospital find a doc that prescribe a very restricted substance. Several thousand Baht every month vs. almost nothing, because they neighbor may also smoke it without having a legit reason just for fun....

[AndyFoxy]

2 hours ago, RandolphGB said:

Looks bloody horrible though with all the neon cannabis signs along Sukhumvit Road. Or walking around seeing some backpacker who hasn't washed for a week taking bong hits outside a cafe.  

Let's hope for law reversal of this dangerous drug as soon as possible.

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, AndyFoxy said:

Let's hope for law reversal of this dangerous drug as soon as possible.

It's not a dangerous drug.