Chinese Tour Groups Visiting Thailand Still Down by 90 Percent Compared to 2019

[spidermike007]

1. None of the issues existing before Covid were ever addressed. Typical Thai style. These goons in charge won't take responsibility for anything. 

2. Many economies have been devastated, and Thailand's tourist base of primarily lower income Indians, Chinese and Malaysians were hardest hit. 

3. Thailand cannot and will not attract wealthy or even affluent tourists, for a dozen good reasons. No sacrifices are being made, to make Thailand more appealing to them. 

4. Thailand is a nation in reverse. It is moving backwards, and represents the polar opposite of progress on countless levels. It is simply NOT becoming a better version of itself. The environment, traffic and public safety, horrific law enforcement, corruption, air quality, etc. Add to that heinous luxury and wine taxes, and you have an environment wealthy tourists avoid like the plague. 

5. You cannot shut down the entire tourism industry for nearly 2 years, decimate the nightlife, hotels, restaurants and countless related businesses, engage in a very poorly planned vaccination program, create a climate of fear and panic, and then just expect because you open your doors again, millions will flood in. The world does not work like that. 

6. Thailand is NOT the center of the known universe. It is becoming less relevant by the minute. Tourists are forgetting Thailand. Thailand needs foreigners 100x more than they need Thailand. 

I could go on and on and on. The goons just do not get it. At all.

Edited May 27, 2023 by spidermike007

[cncltd1973]

3 hours ago, StayinThailand2much said:

No one really does... They are as unpopular as visitors in Oz and NZ, as they are in Hong Kong. (Probably in more places so, but for the places I named I know it as a fact

add Paris and Chicago to the list

[bbbbooboo]

hmmmm...this has been a very good year for chinese tour groups, indeed

[newbee2022]

to be honest I really don't miss them ????

[chalawaan]

In our Moo Baan, a retired Chinese couple rented a large house near us, she was always pottering in the garden, he was older and sat on the porch most days, they were model neighbours. 

They went back to China in Feb 2020 for Chinese New Year.

 

They haven't been seen or heard of since, their car is rotting away, unwashed, in the driveway. 

[Almer]

12 hours ago, fusion58 said:

Maybe there is a God after all!

Agreed

[Almer]

Rude, spitting, shouting, barging, que jumping, spending little all pre paid, who is missing them? 

[StayinThailand2much]

7 minutes ago, chalawaan said:

In our Moo Baan, a retired Chinese couple rented a large house near us, she was always pottering in the garden, he was older and sat on the porch most days, they were model neighbours. 

They went back to China in Feb 2020 for Chinese New Year.

 

They haven't been seen or heard of since, their car is rotting away, unwashed, in the driveway. 

Probably fell on hard economic times during the pandemic, with no money for a flight and holiday down south... 

Edited May 27, 2023 by StayinThailand2much

[chalawaan]

6 hours ago, ikke1959 said:

The not coming Chinese groups are compensated by the arrivals of the Russians, so TAT has no problem with their figures

The 2021 population of Russia is 143.4 million. 

External passports issued in 2022 is 3.87 million (fun fact, they still need internal passports too!) 

The best guess population of China is 100 million under the claimed 1.4 billion. 

The percentage of Russians in Thailand, and there are many other options for them in Asia, doesn't even begin to make up for China's declining figures. 

[chalawaan]

17 hours ago, ukrules said:

Read this : https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/travel-restrictions-02202023160935.html

A very comprehensive report from Radio Free Asia, and it's surprising that the CCP seem to finally be cracking down on Triads, but this is only because they're now so out of control, they are damaging CCP's trade interests and political image. 

I'm no friend of the CCP, both myself and my dad served in seperate theatres against them, he was in 1950s Malaya. 

But I have had Chinese friends and and even one Chinese wife, and not every Chinese we see in Thailand is a crude brute product of the PRC Regime. Many are our allies from Taiwan, Singapore, and a host of countries across the globe. 

Having said that, the PRC population in particular, are rabid racists and nationalist fanatics, with atrocious manners. 

The whole thing is a bit depressing in the 21st century, the world should really have moved on from political extremes after the lessons of last century, yet here we are staring down WWIII. 

[ikke1959]

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

1. None of the issues existing before Covid were ever addressed. Typical Thai style. These goons in charge won't take responsibility for anything. 

2. Many economies have been devastated, and Thailand's tourist base of primarily lower income Indians, Chinese and Malaysians were hardest hit. 

3. Thailand cannot and will not attract wealthy or even affluent tourists, for a dozen good reasons. No sacrifices are being made, to make Thailand more appealing to them. 

4. Thailand is a nation in reverse. It is moving backwards, and represents the polar opposite of progress on countless levels. It is simply NOT becoming a better version of itself. The environment, traffic and public safety, horrific law enforcement, corruption, air quality, etc. Add to that heinous luxury and wine taxes, and you have an environment wealthy tourists avoid like the plague. 

5. You cannot shut down the entire tourism industry for nearly 2 years, decimate the nightlife, hotels, restaurants and countless related businesses, engage in a very poorly planned vaccination program, create a climate of fear and panic, and then just expect because you open your doors again, millions will flood in. The world does not work like that. 

6. Thailand is NOT the center of the known universe. It is becoming less relevant by the minute. Tourists are forgetting Thailand. Thailand needs foreigners 100x more than they need Thailand. 

I could go on and on and on. The goons just do not get it. At all.

I agree and in one sentence.. Thailand has no clue about the tourists and its industry, because they always came and they didn't need to do any effort for them, but now times have changed already before the Covid, and they did not adjust only because they don't understand tourists and therefor they have killed the goose with the golden eggs. Now they have rebuild tourism, but they don't know how and all the measures are more scaring off than welcoming.

[Burma Bill]

22 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Chinese tour groups in Thailand is still low

Maybe this is the reason (from ATTA):

Thailand’s requirement for Chinese tour groups to apply for individual visas, instead of group visas as in the past, may discourage prospective visitors from China, the Association of Thai Travel Agents (ATTA) has warned......... Starting from May 8 (2023), every Chinese tourist is required to apply for an individual visa to Thailand, with no exception.

https://www.nationthailand.com/thailand/tourism/40027075

 

 

 

[Sydebolle]

90% less zero-dollar-tourists shouting and screaming all over the land with their mostly unacceptable behavior of littering the path they leave behind. 

[lavender19]

Some good news at last

[Blumpie]

Considering that the passport office was closed for years and years and years it's little wonder they are not coming.  

[Edina]

What good news!!!!!

[ozimoron]

Lately it seems like there is a dearth of tourists of any nationality around Pattaya suddenly. The more popular WS bars were half empty last week and soi 6 bars have few customers tonight even for a Saturday night. More girls than I have ever seen and most of them are complaining about lack of customers.

[Shocked farang]

On 5/26/2023 at 8:26 AM, ukrules said:

Thailand is on a list maintained by the Chinese government - it's not a good list.

 

There's some very weird stuff happening over the last few months :
 

It's not clear if this is nationwide or just in a handful of places......

 

"Local police stations are carrying out strict review processes for people leaving China, particularly if they're going to Thailand, Cambodia or other Southeast Asian countries,"

Read this : https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/travel-restrictions-02202023160935.html

Thank you for sharing this, it's really worrisome the way individual freedoms are crushed in a dictatorship such as China. 

[Darksidedude]

Great news

[Pink Mist]

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[LivingNThailand]

9 hours ago, Shocked farang said:

On 5/26/2023 at 6:26 PM, ukrules said:

Read this : https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/travel-restrictions-02202023160935.html

Thank you for sharing this, it's really worrisome the way individual freedoms are crushed in a dictatorship such as China. 

Good article, but I looked at the source and found out this from Google.  ????

 

Is Radio Free Asia the CIA?

 

Radio Free Asia (RFA) was a news agency operated from 1951 to 1955 by the Central Intelligence Agency, through the Committee for Free Asia, to broadcast anti-Communist propaganda.

 

It is funded and supervised by the U.S. Agency for Global Media (formerly Broadcasting Board of Governors), an independent agency of the United States government.

 

Where is Radio Free Asia located?

 

Headquartered in Washington, D.C., with eight bureaus and offices overseas, RFA is a private, nonprofit, multimedia news corporation.

[rabiedabruce]

Yay!

[anchadian]

Here we go again:

 

Between January and May 18, Thailand welcomed 1 million Chinese tourists, following China’s border reopening, a government official reported. The Thai government is optimistic about achieving its target of five million Chinese visitors this year, with an expected spending of 446 billion baht.

 

https://thethaiger.com/news/business/thailand-sees-million-chinese-tourists-boost-targets-5-million-in-2022

[Gknrd]

On 5/26/2023 at 11:48 PM, chalawaan said:

In our Moo Baan, a retired Chinese couple rented a large house near us, she was always pottering in the garden, he was older and sat on the porch most days, they were model neighbours. 

They went back to China in Feb 2020 for Chinese New Year.

 

They haven't been seen or heard of since, their car is rotting away, unwashed, in the driveway. 

Thailand is about like China , you really don't know what is going on. You cannot believe a word of the news coming out of China or Thailand.  No telling what happened to them. 

Edited May 28, 2023 by Gknrd

[ExpatOilWorker]

They might bear unwanted gifts...

 

China faces a new Covid wave that could peak at 65 million cases a week.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/china-covid-second-wave-xbb-variant-omicron-rcna86171