Social Media Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Professional golfers have expressed their anger at the PGA and DP World Tour announcing a merger with LIV Golf. Players had not been consulted about the surprise agreement with Saudi Arabian-backed LIV, finding out at the same time as the media on Tuesday. Barstool Sport's Dan Rapaport told BBC Radio 5 Live he spoke to several players immediately after the deal with the rival circuit was announced. "The initial reaction was shock and then it turned to anger," he said. "There are a lot of players who turned down a lot of money who are wondering 'what's the deal?'" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 So let’s see the Saudi citizens do the World Trade Center,keep jacking up the price of oil,kill our military personnel,dismember their own citizens in their embassy’s no less.this is grotesque in my opinion absolutely disgusting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkshire Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 I don't get surprised often. But I must admit, I was surprised by this. From what I gather, it seems the Saudis are taking over professional golf. Worldwide. Not sure if that's a good thing. But in this world we live in today, money talks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipalongcassidy Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 17 hours ago, Tug said: So let’s see the Saudi citizens do the World Trade Center,keep jacking up the price of oil,kill our military personnel,dismember their own citizens in their embassy’s no less.this is grotesque in my opinion absolutely disgusting Yet they finance half the football (soccer) clubs and nobody says a peep 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 I doubt any of these outraged players will refuse to play in the Saudi funded leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayC Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 11 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: I doubt any of these outraged players will refuse to play in the Saudi funded leagues. Tbf to the golfers who are against LIV, they have no choice if they want to continue playing tournament golf. Unlike the hypocritical footballers who could have boycotted the Qatar WC, and then resumed their (club) careers without much problem, the golfers have nowhere else to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayC Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said: Yet they finance half the football (soccer) clubs and nobody says a peep Plenty of people raise concerns. Unfortunately, their voices fall on deaf ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 3 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said: Yet they finance half the football (soccer) clubs and nobody says a peep Really? The Saudis finance half of the soccer clubs? You got evidence to back that one up? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 This is a quote made last year from the Jay Monahan, current head of the PGA: "I have two families (of 9/11) that are close to me that lost loved ones, so my heart goes out to them," Monahan said in an interview with CBS's Jim Nantz last year. "I would ask any player that has left, or any player that would consider leaving, 'Have you ever had to apologize for being a member of the PGA Tour?'"https://www.sportingnews.com/us/golf/news/jay-monahan-pga-liv-merger-911-families/c1mj9c9oevwuklkpezd8l1dk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 7 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said: Yet they finance half the football (soccer) clubs and nobody says a peep Plenty of protests on that. But true, the people with influence just accept and run with the money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 More sportswashing from the Saudis. They're doing the same in boxing. Upsetting the apple cart by offering obscene amounts of money in site fees to host big fights, leading to boxers turning down sensible offers from elsewhere to wait for the Saudi payday, and essentially stopping big fights from happening. It's one of the reasons the heavyweight division has ground to a halt this year. Same in football. Unfortunately the lefty virtue signallers like Lineker soon forget their principles when the dollar signs from the middle east start flashing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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placeholder Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 2 hours ago, JonnyF said: More sportswashing from the Saudis. They're doing the same in boxing. Upsetting the apple cart by offering obscene amounts of money in site fees to host big fights, leading to boxers turning down sensible offers from elsewhere to wait for the Saudi payday, and essentially stopping big fights from happening. It's one of the reasons the heavyweight division has ground to a halt this year. Same in football. Unfortunately the lefty virtue signallers like Lineker soon forget their principles when the dollar signs from the middle east start flashing. Again with "virtue signallers"? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 13 minutes ago, placeholder said: Again with "virtue signallers"? Great point. So insightful. A wonderful addition to the thread. Bravo ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 34 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Great point. So insightful. A wonderful addition to the thread. Bravo ???? The point being that you consistently assign discreditable motives to those whom you criticize. It's a way of taking cheap shots because while your characterization can't be proved, it can't be disproved either. Why not try sticking to what can be proved? You know, those strange and rare objects known as "facts". 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThailandRyan Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 59 minutes ago, placeholder said: Again with "virtue signallers"? He uses it in all of his posts in the other OP's as well, I have gotten used to it. Back on topic, the Saudis are throwing money left and right at sports figures. They tried hard to buy Mesi for over 1 Billion euros, but he rejected the offer, Saudis Arrive In Paris To Close Messi Deal, Camp Accepts €1.2bn offer (forbes.com) A Saudi delegation has arrived in Paris to try and close the signing of soon-to-be free agent Lionel Messi, according to Relevo. Lionel Messi rejected Saudi Arabia offer worth €1.5 BILLION: report | FourFourTwo Lionel Messi reportedly rejected an offer from Saudi Arabia-based club Al-Hilal worth €1.5 billion, instead opting to sign for Inter Miami. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayC Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 6 hours ago, JonnyF said: More sportswashing from the Saudis. They're doing the same in boxing. Upsetting the apple cart by offering obscene amounts of money in site fees to host big fights, leading to boxers turning down sensible offers from elsewhere to wait for the Saudi payday, and essentially stopping big fights from happening. It's one of the reasons the heavyweight division has ground to a halt this year. Same in football. Unfortunately the lefty virtue signallers like Lineker soon forget their principles when the dollar signs from the middle east start flashing. I find Lineker, Neville, etc irritating and hypocritical but their ability to influence football to any great degree is limited. Perhaps your ire would be better directed at those who really control sports: I doubt that you'll find many who are 'left of centre' in their ranks. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiejohn Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 58 minutes ago, RayC said: I doubt that you'll find many who are 'left of centre' in their ranks. What makes you make that claim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 8 hours ago, JonnyF said: More sportswashing from the Saudis. They're doing the same in boxing. Upsetting the apple cart by offering obscene amounts of money in site fees to host big fights, leading to boxers turning down sensible offers from elsewhere to wait for the Saudi payday, and essentially stopping big fights from happening. It's one of the reasons the heavyweight division has ground to a halt this year. Same in football. Unfortunately the lefty virtue signallers like Lineker soon forget their principles when the dollar signs from the middle east start flashing. So you don’t understand professional sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 43 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: So you don’t understand professional sport. Got any links for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 2 hours ago, RayC said: Perhaps your ire would be better directed at those who really control sports: I doubt that you'll find many who are 'left of centre' in their ranks. Those controlling the RFU are about as woke as it comes. https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/rfu-israel-folau-pride-flag-30069044 The Premier league suspending their rules about non political statements for left wing causes like BLM also makes your doubts seem pretty blinkered to say the least. Of course once the dollar signs are flashing with Saudi owners injecting money into premier league clubs and Qatar hosting world cups they drop the morals sharpish but that type of hypocrisy is endemic in the left. At this point, the hypocrisy defines them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 20 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Got any links for that? Your posts suffice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NextG Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 9 hours ago, JonnyF said: Great point. So insightful. A wonderful addition to the thread. Bravo ???? It was a great point, unlike your attempt to attack Gary Lineker, which was sooooo off-topic as to be truly pathetic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NextG Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 1 hour ago, JonnyF said: Those controlling the RFU are about as woke as it comes. https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/rfu-israel-folau-pride-flag-30069044 The Premier league suspending their rules about non political statements for left wing causes like BLM also makes your doubts seem pretty blinkered to say the least. Of course once the dollar signs are flashing with Saudi owners injecting money into premier league clubs and Qatar hosting world cups they drop the morals sharpish but that type of hypocrisy is endemic in the left. At this point, the hypocrisy defines them. Is there something in your brain that compels you to try to blame the ‘left’ for everything? It’s like a weird habit that you are now to old to break. I’m sure that we could find huge corruption and scamming scandals from your beloved ‘right’, but that would be a pathetic direction for the discussion. Are you trying to convince us that those on the right don’t take the money and run? Why do you feel the need to bring the ‘left’ into it? A compulsive disorder? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayC Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 3 hours ago, scottiejohn said: What makes you make that claim? My argument rests on the assumption that the owners of the various clubs wield the power. Look at the ownership of the major European football clubs. Those clubs not in the hands of Middle-Eastern states are either owned by corporations or extremely wealthy individuals (admittedly Germany is the exception). I doubt that you will find too many socialists among their number. I'd suggest that it's a similar story for F1, cricket (the IPL) and boxing (the leading promoters); horse racing has long been controlled by Middle-Eastern owners. I'm not a connoisseur of US sports, but I believe that the overwhelming majority of teams in the NFL, NBA, etc have similar ownership to European football. Again, I doubt that there will be too many left-of-centre types in their ranks, although I'm open to being corrected. (Golf and tennis might be slightly different. However, golf is now controlled by Saudi Arabia. Tennis is still very much an establishment sport. Again, I doubt that many socialists are present at Wimbledon, Roland Garois, Queens or Flinders Park). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayC Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 2 hours ago, JonnyF said: Those controlling the RFU are about as woke as it comes. https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/rfu-israel-folau-pride-flag-30069044 The Premier league suspending their rules about non political statements for left wing causes like BLM also makes your doubts seem pretty blinkered to say the least. Of course once the dollar signs are flashing with Saudi owners injecting money into premier league clubs and Qatar hosting world cups they drop the morals sharpish but that type of hypocrisy is endemic in the left. At this point, the hypocrisy defines them. I agree with you about the hypocrisy but who are these left-wing woke individuals who control sport? Are the board of the RFU left-wing? Nothing to indicate that. Moreover, the likes of Eddie Hearn and PL football club owners don't strike me as being revolutionary Marxists. Those controlling sport are just as (more?) likely to be right-wing. Wasn't so long ago that we had the good old fascist, Max Mosley and the Hitler apologist, Bernie Ecclestone running motor sport. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
it is what it is Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 golf, along with F1, who cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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