Popular Post onthedarkside Posted June 7, 2023 Popular Post Posted June 7, 2023 “Jan. 6 was a tragic day in the life of our nation,” Mr. Pence said. “But thanks to the courage of law enforcement, the violence was quelled, we reconvened the Congress. The very same day, President Trump’s reckless words endangered my family and everyone at the Capitol.” He added: “But the American people deserve to know on that fateful day, President Trump also demanded I choose between him and our Constitution. Now voters will be faced with the same choice. I chose the Constitution, and I always will.” No other major Republican candidate for president has even mentioned the attack on the Capitol in an announcement speech. READ MORE https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/07/us/politics/pence-trump-2024-announcement.html https://archive.ph/LtOLN 2 3
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted June 7, 2023 Popular Post Posted June 7, 2023 Pence clearly knows which side of history he wants to be on. I don’t like the man, I don’t like his politics, but on Jan. 6 his life was put in danger for doing nothing more than following the law and ratifying the will of the American people. Pence was part of the very thin line between fascism and democracy, for that he deserves recognition. 9 4 2 1
Popular Post Tug Posted June 7, 2023 Popular Post Posted June 7, 2023 Thank for doing your job Mike at least we know he takes his oath seriously I certainly don’t agree with most of his political views but I do believe he’s a good American of courage thanks Mike 7 3 2 1
HappyExpat57 Posted June 8, 2023 Posted June 8, 2023 9 hours ago, Rhys said: Hmmm, they grew... Only temporarily. He went on to that phony NOT news network and backpedaled his tailfeathers off. 1 1 1
Popular Post HappyExpat57 Posted June 8, 2023 Popular Post Posted June 8, 2023 7 hours ago, Tug said: Thank for doing your job Mike at least we know he takes his oath seriously I certainly don’t agree with most of his political views but I do believe he’s a good American of courage thanks Mike Exactly. We need more basically honest people like that running. However, that whole "mother" thing really creeps me out. 1 2 1
Popular Post candide Posted June 8, 2023 Popular Post Posted June 8, 2023 9 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: Pence clearly knows which side of history he wants to be on. I don’t like the man, I don’t like his politics, but on Jan. 6 his life was put in danger for doing nothing more than following the law and ratifying the will of the American people. Pence was part of the very thin line between fascism and democracy, for that he deserves recognition. It shows how low the bar is in the GOP sphere. Pence is admired for just doing his duty and follow the law. 4 2 2 1
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted June 8, 2023 Popular Post Posted June 8, 2023 1 hour ago, candide said: It shows how low the bar is in the GOP sphere. Pence is admired for just doing his duty and follow the law. Agreed, but it also shows how close America’s democracy came to collapsing. 3 1
Popular Post Paradise Pete Posted June 8, 2023 Popular Post Posted June 8, 2023 I don't like Pence, but at least he's a normal Republican instead of the nut cases they have now. 2 1
Popular Post Tug Posted June 8, 2023 Popular Post Posted June 8, 2023 5 hours ago, candide said: It shows how low the bar is in the GOP sphere. Pence is admired for just doing his duty and follow the law. I agree to a point,you forgot courage,VPPence spent a lot of time with trump he knew full well what a viscous dirt bag he is and trump sent a lynch mob to kill him so no sir you forgot the courage he deserves credit for that! 2 2
Jingthing Posted June 8, 2023 Posted June 8, 2023 4 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: Agreed, but it also shows how close America’s democracy came to collapsing. And still is. 1 1
Jingthing Posted June 8, 2023 Posted June 8, 2023 Not sure why he's running. He has zero chance of being nominated. Hasn't he been humiliate enough already? 1 1
Tug Posted June 8, 2023 Posted June 8, 2023 Just now, Jingthing said: Not sure why he's running. He has zero chance of being nominated. Hasn't he been humiliate enough already? I agree he won’t get the nomination but perhaps it will make real republicans think about the direction they have been going perhaps it will shake out some of the trump cult acolytes as well 1
Jingthing Posted June 8, 2023 Posted June 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Yellowtail said: Pence getting in the race can only help Trump. You can say that about any candidate running against him. The only way to beat him for the nomination is for them to consolidate with one challenger who is performing well. The mainstream media says that would be DeSantis. But he's terrible too. 1
Yellowtail Posted June 8, 2023 Posted June 8, 2023 6 minutes ago, Jingthing said: You can say that about any candidate running against him. Indeed. 6 minutes ago, Jingthing said: The only way to beat him for the nomination is for them to consolidate with one challenger who is performing well. The mainstream media says that would be DeSantis. Could be. 6 minutes ago, Jingthing said: But he's terrible too. Only to the left, most people on the right think he's fine. Certainly better than what we have now.
proton Posted June 8, 2023 Posted June 8, 2023 4 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: Agreed, but it also shows how close America’s democracy came to collapsing. It collapsed on Nov 22 1963 when they took out an elected president as they did not like his foreign policy history, the nuclear test ban and plans to leave Vietnam. It's been downhill ever since. At the moment the Presidency is little more than a comedy. 2
Chomper Higgot Posted June 8, 2023 Posted June 8, 2023 14 minutes ago, proton said: It collapsed on Nov 22 1963 when they took out an elected president as they did not like his foreign policy history, the nuclear test ban and plans to leave Vietnam. It's been downhill ever since. At the moment the Presidency is little more than a comedy. Oh no it’s ‘They’ again. 1
Hanaguma Posted June 8, 2023 Posted June 8, 2023 5 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: Agreed, but it also shows how close America’s democracy came to collapsing. Actually it shows the opposite. The election result was ratified the next day. The inauguration of President Biden took place as scheduled. The threat was almost non-existent. The rioters were ejected and arrested within hours. The American system is far stronger than many people give credit for. This just proves it. 2
Popular Post placeholder Posted June 8, 2023 Popular Post Posted June 8, 2023 13 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: The rioters were ejected and arrested within hours. really? Long Island funeral home owner arrested two years after Jan. 6 sleuths ID'd him https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/ny-funeral-home-owner-arrested-jan-6-sleuths-ided-rcna88111 1 1 1
Fat is a type of crazy Posted June 8, 2023 Posted June 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Jingthing said: Not sure why he's running. He has zero chance of being nominated. Hasn't he been humiliate enough already? It seems he has a bit of a chance if Trump's problem's catch fire, and Desantis falls over, then all the others seem on a similar footing. Maybe running can be quite lucrative too with Pac's and influence peddling and taking your supporters to help some other candidate if you don't get sufficient support. And you might get lucky and be up against Biden in 2024.
Jingthing Posted June 8, 2023 Posted June 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said: It seems he has a bit of a chance if Trump's problem's catch fire, and Desantis falls over, then all the others seem on a similar footing. Maybe running can be quite lucrative too with Pac's and influence peddling and taking your supporters to help some other candidate if you don't get sufficient support. And you might get lucky and be up against Biden in 2024. A bit like one in a million if that.
Hanaguma Posted June 8, 2023 Posted June 8, 2023 1 hour ago, placeholder said: really? Long Island funeral home owner arrested two years after Jan. 6 sleuths ID'd him https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/ny-funeral-home-owner-arrested-jan-6-sleuths-ided-rcna88111 OK, "ejected and many arrested". Better? The point stands though. Congress did its job, the new president took office, there was no real danger to any American political institutions. 1
Popular Post Chomper Higgot Posted June 8, 2023 Popular Post Posted June 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Hanaguma said: Actually it shows the opposite. The election result was ratified the next day. The inauguration of President Biden took place as scheduled. The threat was almost non-existent. The rioters were ejected and arrested within hours. The American system is far stronger than many people give credit for. This just proves it. The insurrectionists at the Capitol where there following Trumps bidding, had they and he achieved the aim of halting the ratification the other parts of Trump’s plan would have come into play, fake slates of electors. Go ahead, try rewriting the history of these events. Nobody but a fact vacant Tru p supporter is going to believe you. 1 1 1
Chomper Higgot Posted June 8, 2023 Posted June 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: OK, "ejected and many arrested". Better? The point stands though. Congress did its job, the new president took office, there was no real danger to any American political institutions. I look forward to the ongoing prosecutions and trials. 1
Hanaguma Posted June 8, 2023 Posted June 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: I look forward to the ongoing prosecutions and trials. Me too. They deserve it. Kind of surprised it has taken this long.
candide Posted June 8, 2023 Posted June 8, 2023 6 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: OK, "ejected and many arrested". Better? The point stands though. Congress did its job, the new president took office, there was no real danger to any American political institutions. Perceptions about it may vary.. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jul/24/josh-hawley-republican-senator-ran-running-capitol-attack-kansas-city-star 1
Chomper Higgot Posted June 8, 2023 Posted June 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: Me too. They deserve it. Kind of surprised it has taken this long. Justice isn’t finished with the insurrectionists, but it’s getting there. Jack be nimble, Jack be quick. 1 1
Hanaguma Posted June 8, 2023 Posted June 8, 2023 14 minutes ago, candide said: Perceptions about it may vary.. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jul/24/josh-hawley-republican-senator-ran-running-capitol-attack-kansas-city-star I am impressed and surprised that you consider Senator Hawley a "political institution"!
candide Posted June 8, 2023 Posted June 8, 2023 17 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: I am impressed and surprised that you consider Senator Hawley a "political institution"! Well, he's part of one of them.
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