President Biden responds to a shouted question during a joint press conference with British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak.

Sen. Chuck Grassley said Monday that the Burisma executive who allegedly paid Joe Biden and Hunter Biden kept 17 audio recordings of his conversations with them as an "insurance policy," citing the FBI FD-1023 form that the bureau briefed congressional lawmakers on. 

Grassley, R-Iowa, revealed from the Senate floor Monday what was said to be a redacted reference in the FBI-generated FD-1023 form alleging a criminal bribery scheme between then-Vice President Joe Biden and a foreign national that involved influence over U.S. policy decisions.

Well, well, well. Perhaps both biden and trump will be wearing shackles during debates.

So, there IS very strong and credible evidence that joe biden was taking money from the Ukraine that we were promised never happened.

What will happen to the people that actually IMPEACHED a President for wanting an investigation of the biden's corruption in Ukraine now that we know there is much evidence(that was covered up by the DOJ and would have immediately ended the impeachment farce) that corruption WAS taking place.

 If we remember he was impeached for falsely insinuating that biden was taking corrupt payments from the Ukraine that he actually WAS taking. No wonder conservatives do not trust the DOJ or democrat media one iota.

 Isn't it great for joe that the media is fixating on the illogical charges against his political opponent at such a crucial time which has somehow buried reports on the corruption we were told in no uncertain terms never happened. What a mess.

4 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

So, there IS very strong and credible evidence that joe biden was taking money from the Ukraine that we were promised never happened.

What will happen to the people that actually IMPEACHED a President for wanting an investigation of the biden's corruption in Ukraine now that we know there is much evidence(that was covered up by the DOJ and would have immediately ended the impeachment farce) that corruption WAS taking place.

 If we remember he was impeached for falsely insinuating that biden was taking corrupt payments from the Ukraine that he actually WAS taking. No wonder conservatives do not trust the DOJ or democrat media one iota.

 Isn't it great for joe that the media is fixating on the illogical charges against his political opponent at such a crucial time which has somehow buried reports on the corruption we were told in no uncertain terms never happened. What a mess.

Jumping the gun much? You think the FBI under William Barr, who created a special group just to handle these allegations, didn't investigate this?

Wow, the biggest ever political crime if true. 

Never trusted or believed this guy. 

Terrible. 

The American people deserve better, time for the Biden family to face justice.

 

The problem with having a VP like Biden was that he was looking to feather his nest before retirement. This might have been the way, but let's wait and see. 

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Cool. 

 

Let's hear the recordings.

 

 

And can we also get the deets on Hunter Biden's laptop. The rightwing nut jobs have had that for ages and, somewhat mysteriously, have chosen NOT to release any details.

 

 

Funny how the rightwingnut jobs love to harp on Pres. Joe's age, but 89 year old Chuck Grassley is just chipper thank you.

 

 

More faux news misinformation. It should be banned as an acceptable source, especially after they admitted to continually providing false information and having to pay 785 million in penalties. 

Civil war USA here we come

Grassley on Fox. Wake me up when it's truth time.

2 minutes ago, Chicksaw said:

Heck, Joe should be prosecuted first for being a moron.

 

Republicans control the House, where they could easily bring impeachment charges. 

 

Why they haven't yet is curious. And why are they wasting time on "weaponization" investigations, when they could be pursuing Impeachment?

 

 

My guess is that they have bupkis, and are "trying" the "case" against Pres. Joe in the court of public opinion.

 

 

And I too am surprised that drivel from Grassley and Fox News is allowed here.

 

Oh well, red meat for the rightwingnutjobs. They need to eat too.

 

 

 

 

 

Nothing to it it’s just another attempt to attack/smear the Biden’s imo 

15 minutes ago, Tug said:

Nothing to it it’s just another attempt to attack/smear the Biden’s imo 

Are you saying these audio recordings, plus all the bank records we recently saw, plus the collosal web of LLC's and shell companies recieving inexplicably earned money from overseas, plus the whistleblowers and people involved such as Bobulinski, plus all the emails and messages on the laptop are either all showing perfectly legitimate business for a career politician which are all legal, or all fakes? Nothing to them?

 

 Is it not more likely based on ALL the evidence combined that the GOP had this right from the get go, and that Joe Biden is indeed corrupt?

hahahahahaha, strangely all the ones that come in to go off about trump are silent now their gloroius leader is being exposed, US politics is a joke at best, they are all in it for themselves and all are crooked as a dogs hind leg. Biden is just doing what all the others do/have done but looks like now he has been caught out, will we see a second president being charged and facing the courts

 

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2 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

The American people deserve better, time for the Biden family to face justice.

Anything is better the one term, obnoxious, twice impeached loser, Trump!

37 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Are you saying these audio recordings, plus all the bank records we recently saw, plus the collosal web of LLC's and shell companies recieving inexplicably earned money from overseas, plus the whistleblowers and people involved such as Bobulinski, plus all the emails and messages on the laptop are either all showing perfectly legitimate business for a career politician which are all legal, or all fakes? Nothing to them?

 

 Is it not more likely based on ALL the evidence combined that the GOP had this right from the get go, and that Joe Biden is indeed corrupt?

The old saying, "clutching at straws" seems to fit the bill with your post.

 

– These audio recordings released by a right-wing senator and propagated by a right-wing disgraced news station need to be heard, and of course you haven't heard them.

 

– As has been explained many times here, the bank records are no more than what is required by US law with regards to larger sums of money being transferred, so this can apply to anyone.

 

– Shell companies – – – many people and companies have them for one reason or another and that's not a sign of anything untoward.

 

When you have some concrete proof/evidence, then why not try again to post it rather than what you think you would like to see.

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"...citing the FBI FD-1023 form... " ????????????????. FD-1023 is the form they write any unverified rantings of anyone who talks to the FBI. I could call them and tell them I saw Bilbo Baggins and Gandalf shoplifting at Lotus's and they would write it in an FD-1023. ????????????

18 minutes ago, seajae said:

hahahahahaha, strangely all the ones that come in to go off about trump are silent now their gloroius leader is being exposed, US politics is a joke at best, they are all in it for themselves and all are crooked as a dogs hind leg. Biden is just doing what all the others do/have done but looks like now he has been caught out, will we see a second president being charged and facing the courts

 

Just bored not silent. Investigated under the Trump's years and still no clear cut evidence. GOP got the laptop and given access to the FBI FD-1023 form and still more of the same allegations. GOP should know better to run on a report by crooked Giuliani. Now they too embarrass to quit on this suprious investigation. 

2 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

 

The problem with having a VP like Biden was that he was looking to feather his nest before retirement. This might have been the way, but let's wait and see. 

That’s an accusation deserving of being backed up with evidence.

3 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

So, there IS very strong and credible evidence that joe biden was taking money from the Ukraine that we were promised never happened.

What will happen to the people that actually IMPEACHED a President for wanting an investigation of the biden's corruption in Ukraine now that we know there is much evidence(that was covered up by the DOJ and would have immediately ended the impeachment farce) that corruption WAS taking place.

 If we remember he was impeached for falsely insinuating that biden was taking corrupt payments from the Ukraine that he actually WAS taking. No wonder conservatives do not trust the DOJ or democrat media one iota.

 Isn't it great for joe that the media is fixating on the illogical charges against his political opponent at such a crucial time which has somehow buried reports on the corruption we were told in no uncertain terms never happened. What a mess.

Don't need to see or hear the "evidence", do you?  Just the suggestion that there may be something out there is enough for you and many others.

1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Are you saying these audio recordings, plus all the bank records we recently saw, plus the collosal web of LLC's and shell companies recieving inexplicably earned money from overseas, plus the whistleblowers and people involved such as Bobulinski, plus all the emails and messages on the laptop are either all showing perfectly legitimate business for a career politician which are all legal, or all fakes? Nothing to them?

 

 Is it not more likely based on ALL the evidence combined that the GOP had this right from the get go, and that Joe Biden is indeed corrupt?

No, they are showing no credible evidence that a career politician was involved in any of it.

From the second link in the OP:

 

"An FD-1023 form is used by FBI agents to record unverified reporting from confidential human sources. The form is used to document information as told to an FBI agent, but recording that information does not validate or weigh it against other information known by the FBI."  https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-allegedly-paid-5-million-by-burisma-executive

 

The rest of the source states that an unnamed source said he believed Joe Biden had been paid, but offered no proof.

 

Doesn't sound like anything a responsible prosecutor would take to trial.

44 minutes ago, mikebike said:

"...citing the FBI FD-1023 form... " ????????????????. FD-1023 is the form they write any unverified rantings of anyone who talks to the FBI. I could call them and tell them I saw Bilbo Baggins and Gandalf shoplifting at Lotus's and they would write it in an FD-1023. ????????????

I just love your reply, it is absolutely marvellous, but have you ever thought that it could prompt members of the GOP to report sightings of Bilbo and Gandalf to the FBI?? 

 

That would be about their IQ level.

I'm politically centre left, an alien of the US, but follow it's politics somewhat.

 

I believe reasonable people everywhere have a duty to justice before their political allegiances, and if Biden or Trump or Bojo, or Sturgeon or anyone else commits crimes, then they must fall. 

 

Who agrees?

1 minute ago, chalawaan said:

I'm politically centre left, an alien of the US, but follow it's politics somewhat.

 

I believe reasonable people everywhere have a duty to justice before their political allegiances, and if Biden or Trump or Bojo, or Sturgeon or anyone else commits crimes, then they must fall. 

 

Who agrees?

I'm slightly to the left of Karl Marx and I agree wholeheartedly.

 

Who believes in waiting for some evidence before getting the pitchfork out of the barn?

3 minutes ago, chalawaan said:

I'm politically centre left, an alien of the US, but follow it's politics somewhat.

 

I believe reasonable people everywhere have a duty to justice before their political allegiances, and if Biden or Trump or Bojo, or Sturgeon or anyone else commits crimes, then they must fall. 

 

Who agrees?

If you understand US politics at all, you'll know that the right wing media in America has a tendency to either exaggerate or make-up charges against the other side out of thin air.  Fox News is notorious for this.