Trump is a criminal, Biden is too old and DeSantis is a fascist

[GroveHillWanderer]

On 6/29/2023 at 5:59 PM, Yellowtail said:

Where is the evidence Trump weaponized the DOJ? 

 

You have nothing. 

Trump Urges DOJ to Investigate His Political Foes

 

As the article states:

 

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That amounts to a rare move in U.S. politics: a sitting president is actively – and repeatedly – calling for his political opponents to be investigated by his Justice Department. 

 

[GroveHillWanderer]

On 6/29/2023 at 5:31 PM, Yellowtail said:

Boxes of classified documents in Biden's garage for as long as twenty years, not evidence.

 

Boxes of classified documents in Trump's home for 18 months, evidence.

 

Woman claiming Biden sexually assaulted her not evidence. 

 

Woman found to be lying about Trump raping her, evidence. 

 

Biden having Trump investigated not evidence.

 

Trump attempting to have Biden investigated, evidence.  

 

Got it. 

In contrast to the the actions of Trump and his lawyers, Biden's lawyers actively looked for any documents that might have classification markings and when some were found, immediately called (in the first instance) the NARA and then subsequently the DOJ, to make sure they were handled properly. Any documents that needed to be returned were handed over promptly and voluntarily.

You're ignoring the fact that  people are not charged (and Trump wasn't) simply for having documents that should have been returned - they're charged (as Trump was) for the ones that they wouldn't return and/or attempted to hide, even in the face of repeated requests to return them.

 

So Trump was not charged for any of the documents he returned - only for the ones he tried to hold on to, lied about and over which he obstructed the investigative attempts of the authorities, including ignoring a subpoena.

 

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On 6/29/2023 at 5:59 PM, Yellowtail said:

Where is the evidence Trump weaponized the DOJ? 

 

You have nothing. 

Let's see.

He had reporters whom he considered unfriendly investigated by the Justice Dept.

The same thing goes for members of Congress who were leading investigations.

He fired James Comey.

He had Andrew McCabe fired just before he was eligible for his pension. (McCabe ultimately prevailed and his pension was restored)

And there was the failed  Durham investigation that come up with nothing that cast an further significant illumination on the Inspector General's report about theJustice Dept's Russia investigation.

And, of course he publicly called for the investigation of his political opponents.

 

Trump’s ever-present — and still growing — exploitation of the Justice Department. 

https://archive.ph/ygMSy

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/06/11/trumps-ever-present-still-growing-exploitation-justice-department/

[ThailandRyan]

46 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

Trump Urges DOJ to Investigate His Political Foes

 

As the article states:

 

 

It was quite obvious what Trump was doing.  He even announced it many times. The Durham investigation is just one of the times he used the DOJ

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/feb/10/donald-trump-fbi-durham-investigation

 

When the Trump justice department tapped a US attorney to examine the origins of the FBI inquiry into Russian meddling in the 2016 election, conservatives and many Republicans hoped it would end the idea Donald Trump’s campaign was boosted by Moscow and back his charges that some FBI officials and others had conspired against him.

 

But instead, as the multi-year investigation winds down, it is ending with accusations that unethical actions by that special counsel – John Durham – and ex-attorney general William Barr “weaponized” the US Department of Justice (DoJ) to help Trump.

 

Former DoJ officials and top Democrats are voicing strong criticism that Durham and Barr acted improperly in the almost four-year-old inquiry, citing an in-depth New York Times story that added to other evidence the inquiry looked politically driven to placate Trump’s anger at an investigation he deemed a “witch-hunt”.