Hunter Biden investigation 'integrity' undermined if just half of IRS whistleblowers' claims are true: Turley

[riclag]

FBI told Hunter Biden investigator to duck Committee questions, bombshell letter shows!

https://nypost.com/2023/07/18/fbi-told-hunter-biden-agent-to-duck-house-committee-questions/

 

Wow! I would love to see these

Whistleblowers sideline / and sunset the  “consistent  with longstanding practice”  clause and tell the

truth , THE WHOLE TRUTH so help them!

God speed Gentlemen 

 

 

 

[ozimoron]

3 minutes ago, riclag said:

FBI told Hunter Biden investigator to duck Committee questions, bombshell letter shows!

https://nypost.com/2023/07/18/fbi-told-hunter-biden-agent-to-duck-house-committee-questions/

 

Wow! I would love to see these

Whistleblowers sideline / and sunset the  “consistent  with longstanding practice”  clause and tell the

truth , THE WHOLE TRUTH so help them!

God speed Gentlemen 

 

 

 

I didn't see all this outrage when Trump was fighting to keep his people away from House investigations.

[candide]

1 hour ago, riclag said:

FBI told Hunter Biden investigator to duck Committee questions, bombshell letter shows!

https://nypost.com/2023/07/18/fbi-told-hunter-biden-agent-to-duck-house-committee-questions/

 

Wow! I would love to see these

Whistleblowers sideline / and sunset the  “consistent  with longstanding practice”  clause and tell the

truth , THE WHOLE TRUTH so help them!

God speed Gentlemen 

 

 

 

Knowingly misleading post.

 

Of course, you did not mention this part of the article you linked.

"[T]he Department expects that you will decline to respond to questions seeking non-public information likely covered by one or more components of executive privilege or other significant confidentiality interests, in particular information about deliberations or ongoing investigative activity in law enforcement matters,” Jones wrote.

“You should instead refer such questions to the FBI’s Office of Congressional Affairs,” the FBI lawyer went on."

 

 

[onthedarkside]

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[SunnyinBangrak]

Devastating testimony by the latest IRS whistleblower confirming the investigation into the bidens was hindered by the DOJ and FBI to protect the bidens.

 

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“When the subject’s father is somehow related to the finances of the subject, in the normal course of any Investigation, we would have to get that information, to properly vet the financial flows of money, and determine what we end up charging,” Shapley said, adding that his team was blocked form running down leads related to the president.

Ziegler, who is Shapley’s deputy, also told the panel in his written testimony that he wanted to interview Hunter Biden’s adult children after uncovering potentially illegal deductions in Hunter Biden’s tax returns, related to payments to his children. But a Justice Department prosecutor said that would “get us into hot water” and it didn’t happen, Ziegler wrote."

https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/19/politics/oversight-committee-hearing-irs-whistleblowers/index.html

 

 

 Btw this is fascism. Having 2 standards of law. One for the bidens and another set of laws for the trumps. Can we at least all agree that everyone should be equal under the eyes of the law?

Edited July 20, 2023 by SunnyinBangrak

[Pink Mist]

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[candide]

4 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Devastating testimony by the latest IRS whistleblower confirming the investigation into the bidens was hindered by the DOJ and FBI to protect the bidens.

 

"

“When the subject’s father is somehow related to the finances of the subject, in the normal course of any Investigation, we would have to get that information, to properly vet the financial flows of money, and determine what we end up charging,” Shapley said, adding that his team was blocked form running down leads related to the president.

Ziegler, who is Shapley’s deputy, also told the panel in his written testimony that he wanted to interview Hunter Biden’s adult children after uncovering potentially illegal deductions in Hunter Biden’s tax returns, related to payments to his children. But a Justice Department prosecutor said that would “get us into hot water” and it didn’t happen, Ziegler wrote."

https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/19/politics/oversight-committee-hearing-irs-whistleblowers/index.html

 

 

 Btw this is fascism. Having 2 standards of law. One for the bidens and another set of laws for the trumps. Can we at least all agree that everyone should be equal under the eyes of the law?

Most of the examples cited occurred under Barr's  and Trump's mandates. So they were fascist according to you?????

Clear double-standards: investigate Hunter but not Jared or Ivanka, and pardon corrupt Trumps aides such as Manafort or Flynn! 

[billd766]

On 7/19/2023 at 3:32 AM, riclag said:

Have no idea what your talking about  ! You must be confused again with another scandal that the biden crime family is accused of!Please keep up ! 

 

 

 

Keeping up is easy.

 

It gets harder when there is evidence and enough proof to be taken to court and a conviction.

 

Do you have any?

 

I am still waiting for all the wonderful revelations (with enough proof to be taken to the courts and a successful prosecution made) you have claimed for months now to happen.

 

All I see from the Trump supporters is allegations with no back up.

[nauseus]

3 hours ago, candide said:

Most of the examples cited occurred under Barr's  and Trump's mandates. So they were fascist according to you?????

Clear double-standards: investigate Hunter but not Jared or Ivanka, and pardon corrupt Trumps aides such as Manafort or Flynn! 

Back to topic, it seems that any "double-standards" have been the two-tier protections by the FBI and DOJ: high-level for the Bidens and zero for the rest.

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36 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Back to topic, it seems that any "double-standards" have been the two-tier protections by the FBI and DOJ: high-level for the Bidens and zero for the rest.

 It's about Hunter Biden, not "The Bidens". And right now the Justice Dept can't reply in detail to these allegations because the agreement with Hunter Biden has yet to be approved by a judge. And it may be that there are still ongoing investigations.

[placeholder]

8 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Devastating testimony by the latest IRS whistleblower confirming the investigation into the bidens was hindered by the DOJ and FBI to protect the bidens.

 

"

“When the subject’s father is somehow related to the finances of the subject, in the normal course of any Investigation, we would have to get that information, to properly vet the financial flows of money, and determine what we end up charging,” Shapley said, adding that his team was blocked form running down leads related to the president.

Ziegler, who is Shapley’s deputy, also told the panel in his written testimony that he wanted to interview Hunter Biden’s adult children after uncovering potentially illegal deductions in Hunter Biden’s tax returns, related to payments to his children. But a Justice Department prosecutor said that would “get us into hot water” and it didn’t happen, Ziegler wrote."

https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/19/politics/oversight-committee-hearing-irs-whistleblowers/index.html

 

 

 Btw this is fascism. Having 2 standards of law. One for the bidens and another set of laws for the trumps. Can we at least all agree that everyone should be equal under the eyes of the law?

You really ought to have looked up the meaning of fascism before you used it in your post.

"Many experts agree that fascism is a mass political movement that emphasizes extreme nationalism, militarism, and the supremacy of both the nation and the single, powerful leader over the individual citizen."

https://world101.cfr.org/historical-context/world-war/what-fascism#:~:text=Many experts agree that fascism,leader over the individual citizen.

 

And once again the Justice Dept is not free to reply to these allegations before the agreement with Hunter Biden is ratified and while the investigation continues.

[nauseus]

2 hours ago, placeholder said:

 It's about Hunter Biden, not "The Bidens". And right now the Justice Dept can't reply in detail to these allegations because the agreement with Hunter Biden has yet to be approved by a judge. And it may be that there are still ongoing investigations.

Let's face it, the DOJ rarely reply to anything involving any of the "Bidens" these days. 

[Isaan sailor]

If the Biden’s were Republicans—they’d wear orange jumpsuits by now.  You can thank your lucky stars they’re Democrats.

[stevenl]

8 minutes ago, Isaan sailor said:

If the Biden’s were Republicans—they’d wear orange jumpsuits by now.  You can thank your lucky stars they’re Democrats.

Lol, even the big crook managed to avoid an orange suit so far. And that story has been going on a lot longer and the evidence seems solid.

[placeholder]

35 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Let's face it, the DOJ rarely reply to anything involving any of the "Bidens" these days. 

What don't you understand about the fact that if there's an ongoing investigation their hands are tied. It would jeopardize the investigation for them to reply. Which the Republicans know and are counting on.

[nauseus]

3 hours ago, placeholder said:

What don't you understand about the fact that if there's an ongoing investigation their hands are tied. It would jeopardize the investigation for them to reply. Which the Republicans know and are counting on.

This 'ongoing investigation' excuse is getting very old and seems to be used every time anything like this comes up. The Department of Ongoing Investigations is either inefficient or corrupted. It is useless except to a favoured few and way past its sell-by date. 

Edited July 20, 2023 by nauseus

[SunnyinBangrak]

On 7/19/2023 at 12:02 PM, candide said:

A reminder: Parnas was sent to Ukraine by Giuliani to get dirt on the Bidens, so he got Burisma executives interviewed.

And he brought back this:

"But Zlochevsky, as part of the record released by Raskin on Thursday, was asked about any contacts he had with then-Vice President Joe Biden or his office between 2013 and 2019, and if Hunter Biden facilitated those contacts. Instead, he answers that “no one from Burisma ever had any contacts” with Joe Biden or those working for him while Hunter Biden was on the board.

He also answers “no” to a question about if Joe Biden or his staff helped him or his company, and that Burisma did not approve or ask Hunter Biden to conduct meetings he had with the State Department in 2015."

https://www.politico.com/minutes/congress/06-29-2023/raskin-comer-back-and-forth/

NB Republicans have pointed to Zlochevsky as the Ukrainian executive referenced in an FBI document, known as an FD-1023, who told the bureau’s confidential source that Biden and his son Hunter Biden had accepted a bribe.

Again, using 2 year old democrat "facts" is problematic. Everything about the Biden corruption saga has changed, from the laptop being Russian disinfo, to meetings the left falsely claimed never happened being proven to have happened, to the multi mllion $ payments the left claimed never happened being proven with bank records to have happened. Now we know there very much was a there there. So, what did Zlochevsky say?

 

"Burisma CEO Mykola Zlochevsky told the source: 'It costs 5 (million) to pay one Biden, and 5 (million) to another Biden.'

added that, although Hunter 'was stupid,' and his (Zlochevsky's) dog was smarter, he was needed on the board 'so everything will be okay.' "

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12320527/RELEASED-FBI-document-detailing-alleged-10M-Biden-bribery-scheme-publicized-Republicans-Burisma-CEO-Zlochevsky-called-Hunter-stupid-necessary-board-dad-Vice-President-Joe-Biden-protect-problems.html

 

Any laptop deniers looking to educate and inform themselves properly with the actual facts as opposed to false narratives beneficial to the democrat party would do well to read this entire article. Absolutely devastating.

[heybruce]

1 hour ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Again, using 2 year old democrat "facts" is problematic. Everything about the Biden corruption saga has changed, from the laptop being Russian disinfo, to meetings the left falsely claimed never happened being proven to have happened, to the multi mllion $ payments the left claimed never happened being proven with bank records to have happened. Now we know there very much was a there there. So, what did Zlochevsky say?

 

"Burisma CEO Mykola Zlochevsky told the source: 'It costs 5 (million) to pay one Biden, and 5 (million) to another Biden.'

added that, although Hunter 'was stupid,' and his (Zlochevsky's) dog was smarter, he was needed on the board 'so everything will be okay.' "

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12320527/RELEASED-FBI-document-detailing-alleged-10M-Biden-bribery-scheme-publicized-Republicans-Burisma-CEO-Zlochevsky-called-Hunter-stupid-necessary-board-dad-Vice-President-Joe-Biden-protect-problems.html

 

Any laptop deniers looking to educate and inform themselves properly with the actual facts as opposed to false narratives beneficial to the democrat party would do well to read this entire article. Absolutely devastating.

It's a fact that Mykola Zlochevsky is a crook and a liar who's whereabouts are currently unknown.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mykola_Zlochevsky

 

Everything else is speculation.

Edited July 21, 2023 by heybruce

[bamnutsak]

Document Sen. Grassley released.

 

https://t.co/jmtT3WpeJF

 

This document mentions that Zlochevsky (Burisma executive and not the "informant" whose identity remains unknown) has 17 recordings, two of which involve Joe Biden.

 

I would think that Grassley/Comer would be releasing these recordings soon.

 

I think the republicans are contending that Brusima paid the Bidens to get Prosecutor Shokin fired? But I may not fully understand their thinking?

 

My sense is that if they had real evidence they would present it, and that all they really want to do is impugn the integrity of the President to affect the 2024 election.

 

 

 

 

[bamnutsak]

11 minutes ago, heybruce said:

It's a fact that Mykola Zlochevsky is a crook and a liar who's whereabouts are currently unknown. 

Like Dr. Luft, not the most reliable of witnesses, assuming he can be found.

 

from your Wiki link

 

According to Ukrainian authorities Zlochevsky is suspected of "theft of government funds on an especially large scale".[35] Authorities said the criminal investigation on suspicion of embezzlement is currently on hold because Zlochevsky's whereabouts cannot presently be determined.[36] As of 2019, Zlochevsky is reported to live in Monaco.[37] According to an investigation by Al Jazeera he bought Cypriot citizenship somewhere between 2017 and 2019.[38]

 

 

[candide]

7 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Again, using 2 year old democrat "facts" is problematic. Everything about the Biden corruption saga has changed, from the laptop being Russian disinfo, to meetings the left falsely claimed never happened being proven to have happened, to the multi mllion $ payments the left claimed never happened being proven with bank records to have happened. Now we know there very much was a there there. So, what did Zlochevsky say?

 

"Burisma CEO Mykola Zlochevsky told the source: 'It costs 5 (million) to pay one Biden, and 5 (million) to another Biden.'

added that, although Hunter 'was stupid,' and his (Zlochevsky's) dog was smarter, he was needed on the board 'so everything will be okay.' "

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12320527/RELEASED-FBI-document-detailing-alleged-10M-Biden-bribery-scheme-publicized-Republicans-Burisma-CEO-Zlochevsky-called-Hunter-stupid-necessary-board-dad-Vice-President-Joe-Biden-protect-problems.html

 

Any laptop deniers looking to educate and inform themselves properly with the actual facts as opposed to false narratives beneficial to the democrat party would do well to read this entire article. Absolutely devastating.

Stop making up things. It is not a "democrat" fact, It's a "Giuliani" fact. Parnas was sent by Giuliani to get dirt on the Biden, and came back with this statement from Zlochevsky exonerating the Bidens instead of incriminating them (Parnas was expecting to get dirt on the Bidens).

 

This information has also been given to the "Republican" Senate committee investing the Burisma case.

 

As to the Information you mention, this is old stuff which has been dismissed by a Republican" DOJ as unreliable.

 

It was all "Republican" and not "Democrat".

Edited July 21, 2023 by candide

[billd766]

7 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Again, using 2 year old democrat "facts" is problematic. Everything about the Biden corruption saga has changed, from the laptop being Russian disinfo, to meetings the left falsely claimed never happened being proven to have happened, to the multi mllion $ payments the left claimed never happened being proven with bank records to have happened. Now we know there very much was a there there. So, what did Zlochevsky say?

 

"Burisma CEO Mykola Zlochevsky told the source: 'It costs 5 (million) to pay one Biden, and 5 (million) to another Biden.'

added that, although Hunter 'was stupid,' and his (Zlochevsky's) dog was smarter, he was needed on the board 'so everything will be okay.' "

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12320527/RELEASED-FBI-document-detailing-alleged-10M-Biden-bribery-scheme-publicized-Republicans-Burisma-CEO-Zlochevsky-called-Hunter-stupid-necessary-board-dad-Vice-President-Joe-Biden-protect-problems.html

 

Any laptop deniers looking to educate and inform themselves properly with the actual facts as opposed to false narratives beneficial to the democrat party would do well to read this entire article. Absolutely devastating.

So who was the other Biden?

 

Proof only, NO allegations or straw clutching.

[ozimoron]

20 hours ago, nauseus said:

Let's face it, the DOJ rarely reply to anything involving any of the "Bidens" these days. 

Especially when it's illegal to do so.

[nauseus]

29 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Especially when it's illegal to do so.

Especially when it's self-harming to do so.

[stevenl]

9 hours ago, bamnutsak said:

Document Sen. Grassley released.

 

https://t.co/jmtT3WpeJF

 

This document mentions that Zlochevsky (Burisma executive and not the "informant" whose identity remains unknown) has 17 recordings, two of which involve Joe Biden.

 

I would think that Grassley/Comer would be releasing these recordings soon.

 

I think the republicans are contending that Brusima paid the Bidens to get Prosecutor Shokin fired? But I may not fully understand their thinking?

 

My sense is that if they had real evidence they would present it, and that all they really want to do is impugn the integrity of the President to affect the 2024 election.

 

 

 

 

Don't forget that this documyeas presented to the then republican director of the DoJ. Nothing was done with i, I would presume because the claims made could not be verified.