kwaussie Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Think it needs tearing down and starting again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chongalulu Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 2 hours ago, itsari said: Cladding on the cheap , just the same shoddy construction as in the Thai house. At the time of installation of the cladding I understand this didn't contravene the building regulations at the time. A far cry from this Thai house where the fundamental structural construction was severely flawed. Yours is a false equivalence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chongalulu Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 3 hours ago, BusyB said: It involved cost cutting, incompetence and a lack of regulation and consequences which continue to this day - there are many other Grenfells waiting to happen and no action being taken. My point is that it ain't only LOS. There was plenty of regulation and building inspectors would have been involved during the construction. Not something done in Thailand.As I understand it the cladding didn't contravene regulations at the time. The instances are far apart in equivalence in that respect. Rarely would you find a house collapsing in UK from a thunderstorm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 I'm quite convinced that some Thai building is so bad, that the house is only held upright by the crazy Thai electrical wiring ! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisKC Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 13 hours ago, Skipalongcassidy said: This is what happens when there are no standards in place re construction... inspections are bought... materials are substandard... labor is unskilled. And probably no Surveyor to observe such failings, prior to purchase - a prerequisite to obtain any kind of official loan - at least in UK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsari Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 25 minutes ago, nchuckle said: At the time of installation of the cladding I understand this didn't contravene the building regulations at the time. A far cry from this Thai house where the fundamental structural construction was severely flawed. Yours is a false equivalence Hard to say as the UK Government has yet to decide . Typical delay tactics From what I have read the material used on the cladding did not meet requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushroomdave Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 I have only one thing to say after reading stories like this. Happy I rent !!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geisha Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Really, unless you oversee the building of your own house in Thailand, or buy from a well known reputable construction company , you might have huge problems. We all have family somewhere in the west , Germany, Uk,France , wherever. Is it common in those countries to see homes collapsing?. Or new buildings looking ancient after 3 years etc etc. I rent in Thailand ,and have rented many a condo over 30+ years. Bar 2, both older buildings , the others have been shoddy , from the front of the building paint, to the doors which even I could kick in ! One new condo I was in 3 years ago, all the shelves fell off the walls . They came to repair, and hammered huge nails into the wood under the shelves ! Really pretty, not. Catastrophic plumbing a huge problem. Small windows wouldn’t open, sliding doors didn’t slide, the niveau wasn’t right. Needless to say I moved out after 6 weeks. Always thanked my lucky stars I’d never bought. My family have all lived in their own homes for years , and so do my nieces and nephews , never heard a complaint.I live in a beautiful condo in France built 1975 , and apart from embellishments and modernization, I’ve never had work done on it. Still looks great from outside. Good quality and maintenance is what Thailand doesn’t have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caldera Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 That is mighty scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Swift Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 15 hours ago, stratocaster said: Same sort of thing happened to my mate a while ago. The house balcony had a solid edge around it about 8 inches deep. There were 3 one inch drains fitted. During a monsoon rain the drains were plugged with leaves and the balcony filled with water resulting in it collapsing in to the lounge.. You can buy protectors that keep leaves from clogging such things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Swift Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Maybe some good samaritans from the construction trade can be found. Or a good lawyer. Or maybe the construction company might fear publicity and cooperate. My heart goes out to them, but at least he wasn't hurt or killed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
still kicking Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 12 hours ago, hotchilli said: And they don't cost what they do in the west... They do in the long run I found out myself 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zack61 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 Another possibility is the foundations. If landfill was brought in to build the ground up which is often the case then there is the possibility the wall could have moved and collapsed due to subsidence movement. If landfill is not properly set and compacted there is plenty of potential for this to happen. In a house I rented in Chiang Mai the ground around the house opened up in a number of places directly below the roof drip line during the rainy season. It had been backfilled on what was previously a rice field, probably with a whole lot of crap material and then not properly compacted. Just a heads up for anyone planning to build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipalongcassidy Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 17 hours ago, hotchilli said: And they don't cost what they do in the west... So giving up your safety is worth the savings... Right??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 30 minutes ago, Skipalongcassidy said: So giving up your safety is worth the savings... Right??? In many cases here in LOS that's how it works... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huangnon Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 17 hours ago, nchuckle said: It's MORE expensive when you have to build it 2 or even 3 or more times to make it last as long... Yep. It's only worth the land it's built on. Actually, the only way to f%7k up the price of land here is to start building on it.. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Warrior Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 21 hours ago, hotchilli said: And they don't cost what they do in the west... totally true 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geisha Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Road Warrior said: totally true It’s all relative ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moe666 Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 On 7/4/2023 at 9:25 AM, stratocaster said: Same sort of thing happened to my mate a while ago. The house balcony had a solid edge around it about 8 inches deep. There were 3 one inch drains fitted. During a monsoon rain the drains were plugged with leaves and the balcony filled with water resulting in it collapsing in to the lounge.. Not really the same, your mate didn't lean out the leaves before the rain 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipalongcassidy Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 20 hours ago, hotchilli said: In many cases here in LOS that's how it works... Just because that's how it works doesn't make it ok... if everyone thought as you do then there would never be advancement in anything... "that's the way we have always done it" syndrome 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Skipalongcassidy said: Just because that's how it works doesn't make it ok... if everyone thought as you do then there would never be advancement in anything... "that's the way we have always done it" syndrome I didn't say it was Okay... I said that's how it works here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolgeoff Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 He hopes insurance will cover the cost,and the builder that is another unknown person Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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