Popular Post brianthainess Posted July 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 8, 2023 1 hour ago, scubascuba3 said: Probably the anger made him cough it up. I thought everyone knew you do the Heimlich maneuver You are wrong. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chetzee Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 I pulled a drowning young Thai student out of a under current up at Mae Rim waterfalls many many years ago ....... not so much as a thank you from her or her assembled friends who just looked on .......... I put it down to shock ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Monday Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Wait till he turns blue next time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ralf001 Posted July 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 8, 2023 Shoulda choked him after the abuse. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignok Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 4 hours ago, georgegeorgia said: he said I was talking to that farang pointing at me What farang? Was he on the grassy hill behind a tree? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 1 hour ago, brianthainess said: My missus gives me a slap on the back, sometimes i get small items stuck in my Epiglottis, like a small hard tomato seed, or similar, and gasping for air, it works for me. show your missus the Heimlich maneuver, you might need it one day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereyougo Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, scottiejohn said: The OP only said he was choking, nothing about "choking to death! There is no need to turn it into an episode of Dr Kildare/Emergency Ward 10 etc! Oh stop being a drama queen and share with us the difference between choking and choking to death Dr scottie? You sit back and observe for 5 minutes or what? ???? I don't care what OP said he did the right thing without making assumptions. Edited July 8, 2023 by whereyougo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignok Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Do you need help? Just ask first. 80 to 90% of people are no good. So always put yourself first, second and third. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokReady Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 It is recommended to give a few slaps on the back first, then do the Heimlich a couple of times, then a few more slaps, and repeat. Surprising that he didn't realise that you were helping, if he genuinely couldn't breath and you shifted the blockage. Perhaps he was confused, in shock, embarrassed, etc., or even unaware of what was going on. Any chance he could breath and was just coughing but you misinterpreted it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phulublub Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 39 minutes ago, BangkokReady said: Any chance he could breath and was just coughing but you misinterpreted it? Does your GF start screaming when you cough? PH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVENKEEL Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 (edited) All the First Aid, CPR training I've had over the years, a good slap on the back for choking was never a part of it. He should have been happy you didn't try your hand at a tracheostomy Edited July 8, 2023 by EVENKEEL 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralf001 Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 12 hours ago, scottiejohn said: The OP only said he was choking, nothing about "choking to death! There is no need to turn it into an episode of Dr Kildare/Emergency Ward 10 etc! Choking, much like cancer leads to death if not treated in the early stages so "choking to death" is entirely plausible !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sirineou Posted July 8, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 8, 2023 15 hours ago, EVENKEEL said: You don't put your hands on them without some acknowledgement. You know better. Yes indeed, proper etiquette must be followed If I was choking I know the thing I want the most , is a good conversation concerning the merits of preventative action, But such conversation should start with a bit of chit chat icebreakers first, adhering to norms of common conversational courtesy. Things like, Inquiring about one's health, commenting on the weather, and asking if I read any good book lately . The last should serve as a catalyst, broadening the conversation into more intellectually stimulating areas and possible providing an sense of mutual commonality. Moderators, please pin this reply in the appropriate subforum, If one does not exist I suggest one is promptly created. , I know many can profit from it's wisdom. 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignok Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 Someone choking. You read any good books lately? Whats your view on lithium batteries? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralf001 Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 35 minutes ago, sirineou said: Yes indeed, proper etiquette must be followed If I was choking I know the thing I want the most , is a good conversation concerning the merits of preventative action, But such conversation should start with a bit of chit chat icebreakers first, adhering to norms of common conversational courtesy. Things like, Inquiring about one's health, commenting on the weather, and asking if I read any good book lately . The last should serve as a catalyst, broadening the conversation into more intellectually stimulating areas and possible providing an sense of mutual commonality. Moderators, please pin this reply in the appropriate subforum, If one does not exist I suggest one is promptly created. , I know many can profit from it's wisdom. When choking, I prefer to get to know the back patterer over a cold beer or two before he slaps me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignok Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 Maybe the slap hurt him a lot. Otherwise why abuse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVENKEEL Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 17 hours ago, georgegeorgia said: After today I have stopped helping anyone that needs help. I was in a Pattaya restaurant this morning having breakfast when a old english fool started choking in the next table . I was shocked into action without thinking as his Thai girlfriend started screaming. I immediately went to the old fool and slappef his back when he coughed up the food and then started abusing me . Calling me the most abuse vile names , all whilst sitting their panting. I stood there shocked looking at him. The staff came over ,he said I was talking to that farang pointing at me . So I was going to abuse him back but just went back to my table and left ,if I didn't leave I could or would of abused him. Please don't ask for my help in future,if I see anyone in distress I will mind my own business It could be the coughing wasn't caused by life threatening choking and his tilac over reacted, and here comes george to the rescue with some unwanted back slaps. Hope you paid the bill before you stormed out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVENKEEL Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 1 hour ago, sirineou said: Yes indeed, proper etiquette must be followed If I was choking I know the thing I want the most , is a good conversation concerning the merits of preventative action, But such conversation should start with a bit of chit chat icebreakers first, adhering to norms of common conversational courtesy. Things like, Inquiring about one's health, commenting on the weather, and asking if I read any good book lately . The last should serve as a catalyst, broadening the conversation into more intellectually stimulating areas and possible providing an sense of mutual commonality. Moderators, please pin this reply in the appropriate subforum, If one does not exist I suggest one is promptly created. , I know many can profit from it's wisdom. Maybe not a long conversation, but how about saying hey fella I'm going to slap the fork out of you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watchcat Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 16 hours ago, Sticky Rice Balls said: *scribbles down this tip and heads to loy kroh* thanks for the tip friend! Get youself a wife or girlfriend and you could forget about Loi Kroh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 14 hours ago, whereyougo said: Guy is choking to death and they need to negotiate something to proceed? If the OP was in the restaurant at the time the victim started choking, death would take more than a few seconds, so there would have been time to ask the victim if they needed help. I sometimes take something "down the wrong way" and cough a lot, which if someone else saw it might look like choking, but does not require any intervention. PS if the victim is actually obstructed they can't talk, but they will indicate the problem in some way, usually by pointing at their mouth, or so the training VDO I saw showed. Thankfully I never had to do the maneuver on anyone ( yet ). IMO everyone should do a first aid course as the person who's life they save may be someone they love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 13 hours ago, Chetzee said: I pulled a drowning young Thai student out of a under current up at Mae Rim waterfalls many many years ago ....... not so much as a thank you from her or her assembled friends who just looked on .......... I put it down to shock ! If that was my Thai sister in law, not only would she have not thanked me, but she'd have said that she didn't ask me to save her! In some countries one doesn't help anyone because that could lead to one being liable for any injury or death that occurred. One of the first things I was told on orientation in Saudi was to not help anyone out on the street, as if they died it was my fault and I'd be prosecuted for it. I was also told that if I was in a taxi and it was in an accident to throw some money at the driver and RUN, as it would have been my fault the taxi was there. Does that sound like a country you know? Better countries have Good Samaritan laws to protect those that help from prosecution. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 1 hour ago, EVENKEEL said: Maybe not a long conversation, but how about saying hey fella I'm going to slap the fork out of you. I would never say such a thing, It's not the kind of guy I am. Come on, admit it, it was funny,, Not my best work, but worthy of honorable mention. To my defence , it was early morning and the meds had not kicked in yet. I am sure you'll be happy to know I am feeling much better now. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVENKEEL Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 3 hours ago, sirineou said: I would never say such a thing, It's not the kind of guy I am. Come on, admit it, it was funny,, Not my best work, but worthy of honorable mention. To my defence , it was early morning and the meds had not kicked in yet. I am sure you'll be happy to know I am feeling much better now. . Not funny, but I'll give you clever. Funny will be a guy truly choking to death next to OP and George telling him to fork off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdey Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 Ask for permission and he will say gasp, gasp, hurrr, herrrr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 22 hours ago, EVENKEEL said: I must have you confused with another poster as being a health care professional. But after that post no one has you confused as to what you may be... Sounds like the Op saved someones life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 46 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said: Not funny, but I'll give you clever. Funny will be a guy truly choking to death next to OP and George telling him to fork off. Well I guess it matters who the guy choking is. There a few guys (present company excluded of course ???? . ) that I would find their choking jenuinely amusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 21 hours ago, GroveHillWanderer said: Actually, the Heimlich maneuver is now recommended only as a last resort when someone is choking. Banging the person on the back should be tried before that (though only after encouraging them to cough). Both the American Red Cross and UK National Health Service (NHS) recommend the following steps in order: 1. Encourage the patient to cough. 2. Give five slaps on the back after bending the patient forward. 3. Abdominal thrusts (aka the Heimlich maneuver) only if the previous methods fail. Detailed advice from the NHS website below. What should I do if someone is choking? Bingo.. The Op (potentially) saved someones life and received a verbally abusive response. He's now getting an abusive response from some of the muppets on this forum. Op... You did the right thing... I hope you let this one slide and continue to do the right thing in future. Y'never know, you could be saving the life of one of the miserable old farts on this thread who find reason to abuse you rather that offer commendation. My mother is still with us today because a few years back someone 'helped out' in a very similar situation. I wouldn't look very kindly up myself or any person who knows how to help but chose not to for fear of receiving a negative response. Props to you for helping out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 6 hours ago, Ralf001 said: When choking, I prefer to get to know the back patterer over a cold beer or two before he slaps me. Well that goes without saying! though now that I think of it I just said it. Anyway regardless, At the very least a first date with a movie and a good night kiss, before we get into the heavy stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralf001 Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 23 minutes ago, sirineou said: Well that goes without saying! though now that I think of it I just said it. Anyway regardless, At the very least a first date with a movie and a good night kiss, before we get into the heavy stuff. No second base on the first date ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted July 9, 2023 Share Posted July 9, 2023 There will probably be a police report filed on you for 'assault." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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