Popular Post webfact Posted July 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2023 Masked photo of Mr. Olaf Thorsten Brinkmann with an image of murder victim Mr. Hans-Peter Mack inset. Photo: Matichon TWO Germans wanted in the murder and dismemberment of a German businessman in Chonburi last week have been arrested with the third suspect, a Pakistani who holds Thai nationality, still being hunted, Matichon newspaper quoted police as saying late Tuesday evening (July 11). Deputy National Police Chief Pol. Lt. Gen. Surachate Hakparn, nicknamed Big Joke, had asked Pattaya Provincial Court to issue arrest warrants for three suspects in the murder and dismemberment of Mr. Hans-Peter Mack, 62, namely Mr. Olaf Thorsten Brinkmann and Mrs. Petra Christl Grundgreif, both German nationals, and Mr. Sahruek Kareem Uddin, a Pakistani holding Thai nationality. Mack had disappeared after driving from his house at a housing estate in Nong Prue subdistrict, Bang Lamung district, around noon on July 4 to go meet a foreign broker at Jomtien beach to discuss the purchase of a land plot on Koh Samui worth hundreds of millions baht. by TNR Staff Full story: https://thainewsroom.com/2023/07/11/two-germans-arrested-in-murder-of-businessman/ -- © Copyright THAI NEWSROOM 2023-07-12 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. 4 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post webfact Posted July 11, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2023 Thai police apprehend woman in high-profile German businessman murder case by Nattapong Westwood The wife, ex-wife and children of German Hans Peter Ralter Mack. Picture courtesy of KhaSod English. In a significant development in the high-profile German businessman murder case, Royal Thai Police apprehended a woman thought to be instrumental in the crime. Petra Christl Grundgreif, a German national, who reportedly played a key role in the gruesome murder of real estate tycoon Hans Peter Mack, was arrested today at Nong Prue Police Station, Chon Buri province. Police issued arrest warrants for a total of three suspects involved in the premeditated killing and concealment of the corpse of 62 year old Mack. The other suspects are also German nationals, named Olaf Thorsten Brinkmann and another unidentified German man. All are accused of theft and intentional murder. At approximately 3.20pm, investigators took Petra into custody for her involvement in the intentional killing and likely concealment of Mack’s remains. Upon her arrest, she fiercely resisted media attention, refusing to let her image be captured by press cameras and declining interviews. Reportedly, while she was being transported to the Nong Prue Police Station, Petra snatched a reporter’s mobile phone, intending to throw it to the ground, but was prevented from doing so. Full story: https://thethaiger.com/news/national/thai-police-apprehend-woman-in-high-profile-german-businessman-murder-case -- © Copyright Thaiger 2023-07-12 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted July 11, 2023 Author Share Posted July 11, 2023 Police Moving To Arrest 3 Foreigners In Brutal Murder Of German Businessman by TNR Staff The freezer in which his dismembered body was stored being taken to the Institute of Forensic Medicine. Photo: Matichon POLICE are gearing up to ask Pattaya Provincial Court to issue arrest warrants for two Germans and a Pakistani in the brutal murder of a German real estate businessman who disappeared in Chonburi last week and whose dismembered body was found in a freezer placed at a house in this same province last night, Naewna newspaper said Tuesday afternoon (July 11). Mr. Hans-Peter Mack, 62, disappeared after driving from his house at a housing estate in Nong Prue subdistrict, Bang Lamung district, around noon on July 4 to go meet a foreign broker at Jomtien beach to discuss the purchase of a land plot on Koh Samui worth hundreds of millions baht. Police investigating his disappearance found his dismembered body in a freezer at a house in Chokchai Garden Home 1 estate. The body had been cut up into 13 parts separately placed in black plastic bags and put into this freezer which was plugged in at a bedroom. His head had deep wounds showing he had been hit several times. His body parts were sent to the Institute of Forensic Medicine for autopsy. Full story: https://thainewsroom.com/2023/07/11/police-moving-to-arrest-3-foreigners-in-brutal-murder-of-german-businessman/ -- © Copyright THAI NEWSROOM 2023-07-12 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted July 11, 2023 Author Share Posted July 11, 2023 Main Suspect in Murder of Hans Peter Mack Arrested in Pattaya by Thai Police By Adam Judd Pattaya, Thailand-A team of police led by Surachate Hakparn, better known by his popular nickname of Big Joke, Thailand’s most well-known cop, arrested Mr. Oraf Thorsten Brinkmann, German, this evening, July 11th, 2023. Oraf, sometimes called Olaf, had been the main suspect wanted in the murder of Hans Peter Mack, a 62-year-old German businessman and is accused of being the ringleader of the operation. Mr. Mack had been missing since July 4th, 2023, with a three million baht reward offered for finding him safely. Unfortunately, his dismembered and mutilated corpse was found in a freezer at a villa in the Chokchai Garden Village 1 last evening by Banglamung and Nongprue authorities. This took place after another suspect in the murder of Hans surrendered today and a person of interest who resided at the home where Mr. Mack’s dismembered body was found was discovered hiding at a restaurant, although police have not called her a suspect. Full story: https://thepattayanews.com/2023/07/11/main-suspect-in-murder-of-hans-peter-mack-arrested-in-pattaya-by-thai-police/ -- © Copyright The Pattaya News 2023-07-12 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted July 11, 2023 Author Share Posted July 11, 2023 German Woman Surrenders to Thai Police in Pattaya for Alleged Involvement in Murder of Hans Peter Mack By Adam Judd Pattaya, Thailand-A German woman who Thai police issued an arrest warrant for under suspicion of being involved in the murder of German businessman Hans Peter Mack, 62, in Pattaya, Thailand has surrendered to Thai police. Update as of 8:30 P.M. July 11th: A disabled German woman who lived at the home involved in the murder has been found. Police stress, however, she is not a suspect. Mrs. Petra Christl Grundgreif, accompanied by a lawyer, surrendered to Thai police at the Nongprue police station at 3:00 P.M. today, July 11th, 2023. She had an active arrest warrant for alleged involvement in the murder and dismembering of German businessman Hans Peter Mack, as we covered here earlier. Petra declined to speak to the media and did not immediately release a plea in the case. She had previously been interviewed by Thai police over the weekend but at the time they did not have enough evidence to detain her. Full story: https://thepattayanews.com/2023/07/11/german-woman-surrenders-to-thai-police-in-pattaya-for-alleged-involvement-in-murder-of-hans-peter-mack/ -- © Copyright The Pattaya News 2023-07-12 - Cigna offers a range of visa-compliant plans that meet the minimum requirement of medical treatment, including COVID-19, up to THB 3m. For more information on all expat health insurance plans click here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post scubascuba3 Posted July 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2023 Hopefully we hear the outcome of this case rather than the usual radio silence 11 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sumongkhwai Posted July 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2023 Well, that's one way to cut your business partner out of the deal. 2 1 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
save the frogs Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 so olaf was the mastermind. who drove the getaway car? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bignok Posted July 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2023 7 minutes ago, save the frogs said: so olaf was the mastermind. who drove the getaway car? Never trust people named Olaf 4 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post save the frogs Posted July 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, bignok said: Never trust people named Olaf or someone whose name is Oraf but sometimes calls himself Olaf. 2 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spermwhale Posted July 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2023 So sad for the man's family. Really he has a bunch of kids. It's devastating for them. Think of them before making classless comments. 14 2 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Furioso Posted July 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2023 I wonder where they killed him? Obviously they set up an ambush, he walked in, somebody in another room or behind a door snuck up on him. Bashed him on the head with a heavy weapon. Man that's dirty. Then cut him up with a chainsaw? These people are the lowest of the low. 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post neeray Posted July 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2023 This must have involved some very tall dollar business dealings and a heated, irreconcilable dispute, what with cutting one business partner into chopped steak. The murder tends to sound more like it happened impulsively as opposed to being planned. (if planned, not very good planning). 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bignok Posted July 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2023 10 minutes ago, neeray said: This must have involved some very tall dollar business dealings and a heated, irreconcilable dispute, what with cutting one business partner into chopped steak. The murder tends to sound more like it happened impulsively as opposed to being planned. (if planned, not very good planning). Planned in a hurry 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hotchilli Posted July 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2023 1 hour ago, sumongkhwai said: Well, that's one way to cut your business partner out of the deal. Literally, then frozen out to add insult to injury. 1 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RichardColeman Posted July 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2023 I used to live in this estate they kept him in - in reality its only about 100m from me now. Very cheap estate, 9,000 baht month for 2 bed house, mostly Thais since we moved out. Seems very strange for them to use this house whilst doing multi million $ deals. 5 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ezzra Posted July 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2023 What pique my interest though the bit about the Pakistani with a Thai nationality, A. how such a person get a Thai citizenship and B. they still refer to him as a foreigner, other than than, this whole thing can be made into an very intriguing move. 5 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jonathan Swift Posted July 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 12, 2023 1 hour ago, save the frogs said: or someone whose name is Oraf but sometimes calls himself Olaf. Depending on which Thai dialect 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post save the frogs Posted July 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 12, 2023 1 hour ago, spermwhale said: Think of them before making classless comments. you're right. my comments were in poor taste. but trying to guess how he was murdered is even worse. RIP to the deceased and condolences to family. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Swift Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Furioso said: I wonder where they killed him? Obviously they set up an ambush, he walked in, somebody in another room or behind a door snuck up on him. Bashed him on the head with a heavy weapon. Man that's dirty. Then cut him up with a chainsaw? These people are the lowest of the low. Must've been a blσσdy mess - ugh, the horror 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jonathan Swift Posted July 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 12, 2023 Trying to get away with such a crime in the land of CCTV. Not too smart. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Scouse123 Posted July 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 12, 2023 (edited) This is turning into a very ' murky and dirty ' affair now. However, with this being high profile and no doubt, the German Embassy will definitely be involved, as well as Thailand's police pin up ' Big Joke ' at the forefront, I cannot see this one being swept under the carpet. Big Joke has an image, (he believes) as a clean cop, he is keen to maintain this due to his political ambitions and Thailand cannot be seen to be the country where ' anything goes ' It isn't the Wild West and they must be seen to have some semblance of law and order. It is sad for the children of the deceased and a terrible way to die. Again, he seemed with the information coming to light to ' sail very close to the wind ' with some of his behaviour, associates and activities such as we are hearing about with involvement with biker gangs, underage sex arrests etc Edited July 12, 2023 by Scouse123 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redwood1 Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 (edited) The freezing is the strange part of this story......Why the heck would anyone want to freeze a body? Edited July 12, 2023 by redwood1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Peterw42 Posted July 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, redwood1 said: The freezing is the strange part of this story......Why the heck would anyone want to freeze a body? Isn't that obvious ? The body will need to be disposed of, bit by bit, arrangements to be taken elsewhere etc. But in the meantime it will start to smell. There has been other commentary that the freezer wasn't plugged in, its just a box that's big enough to store and transport a body, without raising suspicion 6 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kwak250 Posted July 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 12, 2023 10 minutes ago, redwood1 said: The freezing is the strange part of this story......Why the heck would anyone want to freeze a body? It would be much better than it decomposing and would give them time to dispose of it at a later stage. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norfolkandchance Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 14 minutes ago, redwood1 said: The freezing is the strange part of this story......Why the heck would anyone want to freeze a body? Easy to cut up then. Maybe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homburg Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 RIP Mr Hans-Peter Mack. What is surprising in this case is the BIB apparently doing real police work. Amazing Thailand. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralf001 Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 How do they know the killing was intentional ? 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralf001 Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 29 minutes ago, Jonathan Swift said: Must've been a blσσdy mess - ugh, the horror Frozen meat cuts with no blood leakage. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterw42 Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ralf001 said: How do they know the killing was intentional ? If it was an accident, wouldn't they just call the police and say there has been a terrible accident. Maybe there are obvious signs that it was murder, knife wounds, a murder weapon etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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