Popular Post Social Media Posted July 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2023 More than 4 in 10 Americans believe the Supreme Court has become too conservative, according to a new Quinnipiac University poll. The poll, published Wednesday, found that 43 percent of respondents believe that the Supreme Court is too conservative, while 13 percent of those surveyed think that the court is too liberal and 33 percent believe that the current ideology of the Supreme Court is just about right. This is a change from a September 2021 Quinnipiac University poll, in which 34 percent thought the Supreme Court was too conservative, 34 percent thought it was about right and 19 percent thought it was too liberal. Along political party lines, 80 percent of Democrat respondents now believe that the Supreme Court is too conservative, compared with 38 percent of independent respondents and 8 percent of Republicans. In contrast, 25 percent of Republican respondents believe that the Supreme Court is too liberal, compared with 12 percent of independent respondents and 5 percent of Democrats. FULL STORY 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Trippy Posted July 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2023 It all depends on your point of view. And now since reasonable compromise is dead and buried, people are naturally going to be upset if the court doesn't agree with their positions. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tug Posted July 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2023 41 minutes ago, Trippy said: It all depends on your point of view. And now since reasonable compromise is dead and buried, people are naturally going to be upset if the court doesn't agree with their positions. The problem is they are stripping rights from people interfering with trying to level the playing field obviously in the case of Thomas corruption not to mention some of the new ones made false or misleading statements about their views during the conformation process 4 1 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Skeptic7 Posted July 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2023 Too conservative AND too corrupt. ???? 10 1 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted July 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2023 Of course it is. The right wing stole two seats. What do you expect? While the court can't be expected to be current with politics, this court is going backwards quickly. It's credibility has been destroyed. This is a danger for American democracy. If the people have no respect for important institutions there is nothing to hold it up. I'm sure right wingers understand the court has been unfairly hijacked. They might like the politics of that, but if they cared about the bigger issue, the viability of American democracy, they wouldn't be so gleeful. 5 1 2 4 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post new2here Posted July 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2023 13 minutes ago, Skeptic7 said: Too conservative AND too corrupt. ???? The too conservative part i think is always going to be a slow evolutionary issue as the ideological makeup of court changes with time.. to me, I don’t worry too much about that as time will swing it each way eventually.. what i DO worry about is the appearance of impartiality. I don’t know what Justice Thomas’ relationship is with this person in the news as of late.. What worries me most is the mere APPEARANCE of impropriety.. I want the court to be beyond reproach and that’s what worries more more than it’s current ideological make up 5 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HappyExpat57 Posted July 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2023 6 minutes ago, new2here said: The too conservative part i think is always going to be a slow evolutionary issue as the ideological makeup of court changes with time.. to me, I don’t worry too much about that as time will swing it each way eventually.. what i DO worry about is the appearance of impartiality. I don’t know what Justice Thomas’ relationship is with this person in the news as of late.. What worries me most is the mere APPEARANCE of impropriety.. I want the court to be beyond reproach and that’s what worries more more than it’s current ideological make up Even worse than the appearance of impropriety is the "We don't give a sh!t WHAT you think. Now go and eat some cake" attitude they all have. 1 2 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted July 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2023 Also of course the right wingers lie in confirmation hearings. Respect precedents! Like shell you do. 5 1 1 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted July 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2023 14 minutes ago, new2here said: The too conservative part i think is always going to be a slow evolutionary issue as the ideological makeup of court changes with time.. to me, I don’t worry too much about that as time will swing it each way eventually.. what i DO worry about is the appearance of impartiality. I don’t know what Justice Thomas’ relationship is with this person in the news as of late.. What worries me most is the mere APPEARANCE of impropriety.. I want the court to be beyond reproach and that’s what worries more more than it’s current ideological make up You should worry about how it's been hijacked by right wing extremists. The newer radical right wing activists are younger which means their dirty work will stand for generations. 3 1 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KhunLA Posted July 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2023 I guess they should have paid attention in school, when 'gov't/voting' was being taught. Everyone, left-right-middle has the same power of the vote. Knowing and exercising that ... is power. You snooze you lose. Don't cry after the fact. Get use to it, as it's going to take more than a few election cycles to swing it back to 'left' ... thankfully. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2021/01/13/how-trump-compares-with-other-recent-presidents-in-appointing-federal-judges/ 2 1 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placnx Posted July 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2023 58 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Of course it is. The right wing stole two seats. What do you expect? While the court can't be expected to be current with politics, this court is going backwards quickly. It's credibility has been destroyed. This is a danger for American democracy. If the people have no respect for important institutions there is nothing to hold it up. I'm sure right wingers understand the court has been unfairly hijacked. They might like the politics of that, but if they cared about the bigger issue, the viability of American democracy, they wouldn't be so gleeful. I would call the present Court an echo chamber for reactionaries. The machinations of McConnell et al to engineer this majority are a subversion of democracy. 4 3 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVENKEEL Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, placnx said: I would call the present Court an echo chamber for reactionaries. The machinations of McConnell et al to engineer this majority are a subversion of democracy. Perhaps you could dumb it down a notch. You're too smart for me 1 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted July 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) 36 minutes ago, placnx said: I would call the present Court an echo chamber for reactionaries. The machinations of McConnell et al to engineer this majority are a subversion of democracy. It's America's version of the will of the people being crushed by dinosaurs. Shades of Thailand. Edited July 20, 2023 by Jingthing 2 1 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yellowtail Posted July 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2023 As always, the left never wants to argue a case on it's merit. The supreme court is supposed to interpret the constitution, not promote a leftist agenda. 1 3 1 2 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted July 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2023 The court is not legitimate. 1 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tropposurfer Posted July 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, Trippy said: It all depends on your point of view. And now since reasonable compromise is dead and buried, people are naturally going to be upset if the court doesn't agree with their positions. Interestring statistics huh? I'm curious about the 30 odd percent that are reported as seeing the court as too liberal. How is it possible for an enlightened person who believes in individual liberty think removing, by law, a woman's autonomy over her own body, and punishable by Law if she does exert such autonomy is in any way exemplary of the Constitution and The People being free of either civil or sectarian tyranny? Edited July 20, 2023 by Tropposurfer 2 1 3 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Trippy Posted July 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Tropposurfer said: Interestring statistics huh? I'm curious about the 30 odd percent that are reported as seeing the court as too liberal. How is it possible for an enlightened person who believes in individual liberty think removing, by law, a woman's autonomy over her own body, and punishable by Law if she does exert such autonomy is in any way exemplary of the Constitution and The People being free of either civil or sectarian tyranny? Supreme court did no such thing, all they did was leave the decision up to the individual states. 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hanaguma Posted July 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2023 54 minutes ago, Jingthing said: The court is not legitimate. Franken, of course, is wrong. The justices were appointed legally. Of course, McConnell is a cunning bar steward and all, but it was legal. Guarantee if the shoe was on the other foot, the other party would have done the same. 1 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post EVENKEEL Posted July 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2023 57 minutes ago, Jingthing said: The court is not legitimate. Why?? Because Frankin says so? wow 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mikebike Posted July 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2023 10 minutes ago, Trippy said: Supreme court did no such thing, all they did was leave the decision up to the individual states. Hmmm, how to say I know nothing of the history of oppression in the USA without saying I know nothing about the history of oppression in the USA ????♂️ 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted July 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2023 On 7/20/2023 at 5:51 PM, Hanaguma said: Franken, of course, is wrong. The justices were appointed legally. Of course, McConnell is a cunning bar steward and all, but it was legal. Guarantee if the shoe was on the other foot, the other party would have done the same. I call <deleted>. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted July 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2023 Overturning Roe v Wade was outrageous. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KhunLA Posted July 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2023 2 hours ago, Jingthing said: It's America's version of the will of the people being crushed by dinosaurs. Shades of Thailand. The justices got there by appointment & confirmation by their representatives in Congress they elected. If not to your liking, blame yourself. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yellowtail Posted July 20, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2023 17 minutes ago, Tropposurfer said: Interestring statistics huh? I'm curious about the 30 odd percent that are reported as seeing the court as too liberal. How is it possible for an enlightened person who believes in individual liberty think removing, by law, a woman's autonomy over her own body, and punishable by Law if she does exert such autonomy is in any way exemplary of the Constitution and The People being free of either civil or sectarian tyranny? Clearly you know nothing of the court or the ruling if you believe it outlawed abortion. 1 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Jingthing said: Overturning Roe v Wade was outrageous. I disagree, as I dislike the idea of abortions, and feel the same about telling someone what they can or can't do with 'their' body. Agree with the court though, it shouldn't be a federal issue, in a republic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, KhunLA said: The justices got there by appointment & confirmation by their representatives in Congress they elected. If not to your liking, blame yourself. I blame right wing Republicans. Don't tell me who to blame. This court is not legitimate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Jingthing said: Overturning Roe v Wade was outrageous. Roe v Wade was outrageous, which is what it was overturned. The left can pass laws using congress that legalizes whatever they like. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 1 minute ago, KhunLA said: I disagree, as I dislike the idea of abortions, and feel the same about telling someone what they can or can't do with 'their' body. Agree with the court though, it shouldn't be a federal issue, in a republic. Of course you disagree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Just now, Jingthing said: I blame right wing Republicans. Don't tell me who to blame. This court is not legitimate. And I blame the left for the illegitimacy of the court for the last sixty years. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 6 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: And I blame the left for the illegitimacy of the court for the last sixty years. Those seats weren't stolen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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