Social Media Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 A heatwave baking the US Southwest for weeks is set to expand into central and eastern regions. Beginning in the Midwest, the hot weather will extend east as far as the southern tip of Florida by Wednesday, say meteorologists. Temperature records were surpassed in several major cities over the weekend, and some 59 million Americans began Monday under extreme heat advisories. July is now expected to be the Earth's hottest month since records began. On Sunday, the city of Phoenix, Arizona, extended its streak of temperatures above 43C (110F) into a 24th day, well past the previous record of 18 days set in 1974. It is on course to be the first major US city to average over 100F (38C) for an entire month, according to NOAA statistics and a Washington Post analysis. At least 18 heat-related deaths have occurred in surrounding Maricopa County since April, with 69 more deaths under investigation. Is climate change causing heatwaves and wildfires? Millions under smoke advisory due to Canada fires FULL STORY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Purdey Posted July 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2023 I'm sure many will say it is all fake news. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 39 minutes ago, Purdey said: I'm sure many will say it is all fake news. More likely they'll say something like "it's summer, it's supposed to be hot." Because, you know, that's how science and scientists work. They don't deal with actual temperatures. Hot, warm, medium, cool, and cold are sufficient for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rudi49jr Posted July 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2023 47 minutes ago, Purdey said: I'm sure many will say it is all fake news. Not fake news: https://grist.org/extreme-heat/how-climate-change-drives-hotter-more-frequent-heat-waves/ Although the climate deniers will probably have nothing of it, they just ‘don’t believe’ in climate change. As if it’s like a religion, or a god, that you can choose to believe in or not. 2 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 (edited) Hot weather & heat waves in the summer time, in the USA, who would have thought that ever to be possible. Phoenix - Sonoran Desert, and people are surprised ... ???? 25 yrs ago, we used to get solid months of 100°F +/- for a couple months in the Memphis, TN area. Just deal with it. If outside, as we were, working, pace yourself, if indoors ... ... that invention called AC usually works good. Edited July 25, 2023 by KhunLA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ozimoron Posted July 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2023 13 minutes ago, KhunLA said: Hot weather & heat waves in the summer time, in the USA, who would have thought that ever to be possible. Phoenix - Sonoran Desert, and people are surprised ... ???? 25 yrs ago, we used to get solid months of 100°F +/- for a couple months in the Memphis, TN area. Just deal with it. If outside, as we were, working, pace yourself, if indoors ... ... that invention called AC usually works good. What you don't seem to notice is that records are being broken every year. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted July 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2023 37 minutes ago, KhunLA said: Hot weather & heat waves in the summer time, in the USA, who would have thought that ever to be possible. Phoenix - Sonoran Desert, and people are surprised ... ???? 25 yrs ago, we used to get solid months of 100°F +/- for a couple months in the Memphis, TN area. Just deal with it. If outside, as we were, working, pace yourself, if indoors ... ... that invention called AC usually works good. Yeah. You're absolutely right. Just another hot season. That's the ticket. Heat waves currently happening in North America, Europe 'virtually impossible' without climate change: Report - ABC News (go.com) 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post placeholder Posted July 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2023 2 hours ago, KhunLA said: Hot weather & heat waves in the summer time, in the USA, who would have thought that ever to be possible. Phoenix - Sonoran Desert, and people are surprised ... ???? 25 yrs ago, we used to get solid months of 100°F +/- for a couple months in the Memphis, TN area. Just deal with it. If outside, as we were, working, pace yourself, if indoors ... ... that invention called AC usually works good. Wow, not long before your post I predicted that someone would make a claim like the one you just did. Apparently, to you hot is hot and how hot doesn't matter. As for your false claim that "25 yrs ago, we used to get solid months of 100°F +/- for a couple months in the Memphis, TN area."... here's a link to the national weather service that shows the average high for each day in july which is typically the hottest month. The low 90's is more like it. https://www.weather.gov/meg/climatememjul 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunLA Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, placeholder said: Wow, not long before your post I predicted that someone would make a claim like the one you just did. Apparently, to you hot is hot and how hot doesn't matter. As for your false claim that "25 yrs ago, we used to get solid months of 100°F +/- for a couple months in the Memphis, TN area."... here's a link to the national weather service that shows the average high for each day in july which is typically the hottest month. The low 90's is more like it. https://www.weather.gov/meg/climatememjul I lived & worked there for 5 years ... nuff said Hot, high temps in USA ... nothing new there. How hot ... Damn hot Edited July 25, 2023 by KhunLA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ozimoron Posted July 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2023 4 minutes ago, KhunLA said: I lived & worked there for 5 years ... nuff said What about the average of any given hundred consecutive days each summer? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swerve Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 4 hours ago, rudi49jr said: Not fake news: https://grist.org/extreme-heat/how-climate-change-drives-hotter-more-frequent-heat-waves/ Although the climate deniers will probably have nothing of it, they just ‘don’t believe’ in climate change. As if it’s like a religion, or a god, that you can choose to believe in or not. The Earth's climate has been changing for billions of years before humans showed up. Not sure what your point is. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, swerve said: The Earth's climate has been changing for billions of years before humans showed up. Not sure what your point is. At a rate even 1,000 th of the rate it's changing now? Barring major volcanic eruptions. Were those climatic changes caused by humans. Do you think think natural cycles are playing any part now? If so, which mechanisms are in play? Edited July 25, 2023 by ozimoron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi49jr Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 10 minutes ago, swerve said: The Earth's climate has been changing for billions of years before humans showed up. Not sure what your point is. Sigh. Maybe first read the article that I linked to and then you may understand what my point is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 28 minutes ago, KhunLA said: I lived & worked there for 5 years ... nuff said Hot, high temps in USA ... nothing new there. How hot ... Damn hot What has this got do do with your obviously false claim that "25 yrs ago, we used to get solid months of 100°F +/- for a couple months in the Memphis, TN area." How does that data you presented support your claim that you "used to get sold months of 100°F." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 2 hours ago, KhunLA said: Hot weather & heat waves in the summer time, in the USA, who would have thought that ever to be possible. The problem is not that it is hot in the summer, the problem is that it is Record Hot. If every summer is record hot, it means that it is getting hotter. 2 hours ago, KhunLA said: 25 yrs ago, we used to get solid months of 100°F +/- for a couple months in the Memphis, TN area. You are confusing weather , with Climate. The weather in Memphis was warmer back then. But the Earth's climate was not, Otherwise the overall temperature would not be reaching RECORD temperatures, The word record indicates higher than normal . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Woke up this morning and as I do every morning scanned the headlines in Googles news, and I was greeted by this wonderful news . I am sure you will see it soon. It was reported by all the major papers, but I chose the Guardian because it is not behind a paywall and is accessible to most. "Gulf Stream could collapse as early as 2025, study suggests " https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/jul/25/gulf-stream-could-collapse-as-early-as-2025-study-suggests "The Gulf Stream system could collapse as soon as 2025, a new study suggests. The shutting down of the vital ocean currents, called the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (Amoc) by scientists, would bring catastrophic climate impacts. Amoc was already known to be at its weakest in 1,600 years owing to global heating and researchers spotted warning signs of a tipping point in 2021. The new analysis estimates a timescale for the collapse of between 2025 and 2095, with a central estimate of 2050, if global carbon emissions are not reduced. Evidence from past collapses indicate changes of temperature of 10C in a few decades, although these occurred during ice ages." 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 No surprise this is a BBC article. They're absolutely obsessed with climate change. I rarely go to their website now. It's generally doomsday cult propaganda. They've moved on from Covid Emergency to Climate Emergency. Oh and the occasional "entertainment/interest" story about the latest Woke issue, or maybe hiding women's sport under misleading, vague headlines in the hope people click on it by mistake. As for climate change, yes the climate changes over time - history shows us that. If they think Mrs Smith from Number 10 separating her rubbish into green bags and black bags (which won't be collected anyway as they're on strike) will save the planet then they might want to check what's happening in Asia instead of trying to get everyone to feel guilty about drinking mineral water from a plastic bottle and pretending it is news. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Sea temperature off Florida reaches 38C - potentially a world record Developing tropical storms could also become stronger because of the high sea temperatures, the agency said. Florida is far from the only place experiencing unusually warm temperatures. Global sea surface temperatures have been at record highs since April - including around the UK. https://news.sky.com/story/sea-temperature-off-florida-reaches-38c-potentially-a-world-record-12927068 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 49 minutes ago, JonnyF said: No surprise this is a BBC article. They're absolutely obsessed with climate change. I posted that this was reported on every major news outlet. And I gave you the Guardian because it was not behind a paywall. Below are links to some other publications, perhaps you can find one that you like there. If not please let me know, plenty more where these came from. But of course you could read about the existential dangers Hunter's drug problem presents to humanity on Fox entertainment news where they whisper the sweet little nothings you want to hear to your ear. https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/25/world/gulf-stream-atlantic-current-collapse-climate-scn-intl/index.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2023/07/25/atlantic-ocean-amoc-climate-change/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/weather/2023/07/25/atlantic-current-collapse-possible-in-two-years-study-suggests/70434388007/ https://www.axios.com/2023/07/25/gulf-stream-collapse-atlantic-ocean-circulation https://www.npr.org/2023/07/25/1190066396/a-vital-ocean-current-that-controls-weather-around-the-globe-is-at-risk-of-colla https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/25/climate/atlantic-ocean-tipping-point.html https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/warming-could-push-atlantic-ocean-past-tipping-point/ https://www.sciencealert.com/atlantic-ocean-circulation-could-collapse-by-2050-scientists-warn https://www.ft.com/content/41efe7f2-5bd5-48fc-96e8-7275f08180fd https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/4118630-atlantic-ocean-currents-system-collapse-climate-change/ https://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/crucial-global-climatic-system-could-face-tipping-point-in-two-years-20230725-p5dr6p.html https://interestingengineering.com/science/atlantic-oceans-conveyor-collapse-2025 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, sirineou said: I posted that this was reported on every major news outlet. And I gave you the Guardian because it was not behind a paywall. Below are links to some other publications, perhaps you can find one that you like there. If not please let me know, plenty more where these came from. But of course you could read about the existential dangers Hunter's drug problem presents to humanity on Fox entertainment news where they whisper the sweet little nothings you want to hear to your ear. https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/25/world/gulf-stream-atlantic-current-collapse-climate-scn-intl/index.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2023/07/25/atlantic-ocean-amoc-climate-change/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/weather/2023/07/25/atlantic-current-collapse-possible-in-two-years-study-suggests/70434388007/ https://www.axios.com/2023/07/25/gulf-stream-collapse-atlantic-ocean-circulation https://www.npr.org/2023/07/25/1190066396/a-vital-ocean-current-that-controls-weather-around-the-globe-is-at-risk-of-colla https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/25/climate/atlantic-ocean-tipping-point.html https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/warming-could-push-atlantic-ocean-past-tipping-point/ https://www.sciencealert.com/atlantic-ocean-circulation-could-collapse-by-2050-scientists-warn https://www.ft.com/content/41efe7f2-5bd5-48fc-96e8-7275f08180fd https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/4118630-atlantic-ocean-currents-system-collapse-climate-change/ https://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/crucial-global-climatic-system-could-face-tipping-point-in-two-years-20230725-p5dr6p.html https://interestingengineering.com/science/atlantic-oceans-conveyor-collapse-2025 There's an awful lot of "coulds" and "possibles" and "at risks" in those headlines. ???? Not sure about your Hunter Biden obsession, you might want to get that looked at... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 21 minutes ago, JonnyF said: There's an awful lot of "coulds" and "possibles" and "at risks" in those headlines. ???? Not sure about your Hunter Biden obsession, you might want to get that looked at... Also comprehension problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi49jr Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 3 hours ago, Bkk Brian said: Sea temperature off Florida reaches 38C - potentially a world record Developing tropical storms could also become stronger because of the high sea temperatures, the agency said. Florida is far from the only place experiencing unusually warm temperatures. Global sea surface temperatures have been at record highs since April - including around the UK. https://news.sky.com/story/sea-temperature-off-florida-reaches-38c-potentially-a-world-record-12927068 You’re not wrong: https://theconversation.com/the-mediterranean-has-experienced-record-sea-temperatures-this-summer-this-could-devastate-marine-life-188995 https://climate.copernicus.eu/record-breaking-north-atlantic-ocean-temperatures-contribute-extreme-marine-heatwaves#:~:text=recorded marine heatwaves.-,North Atlantic temperatures off the charts,warmest June%2C recorded in 2010. Records are being broken everywhere, and at an ever increasing rate, it seems. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Drake Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 It's a nice afternoon here in Bangkok. About 33 degrees, a few clouds, and a nice breeze. Some of you old guys need to step outside, maybe sit in wicker chair on a veranda, sip some ice tea, and enjoy life, instead of dropping into constant paranoia about the weather. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 5 hours ago, John Drake said: It's a nice afternoon here in Bangkok. About 33 degrees, a few clouds, and a nice breeze. Some of you old guys need to step outside, maybe sit in wicker chair on a veranda, sip some ice tea, and enjoy life, instead of dropping into constant paranoia about the weather. Or maybe you should learn the difference between weather and climate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 We've got to stick our plan of trying to reduce CO2 emissions by a few percentage points! It hasn't worked for the last twenty years, but it is going to start working any day now with all the new technology and whatnot. Sell more carbon credits, the more regressive the tax, the better!!!! Stay the course!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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