Would you ever marry a bar girl? If so, why?

[OneMoreFarang]

23 minutes ago, bob smith said:

....and a good predictor of a womans future is education. Wouldn't you agree?

 

I mean, its pretty obvious that a PhD will ultimately have a better life down the line than a 12th grade drop out who got knocked up by her meth addicted thai boyfriend? 

 

No?

No

Let's say she is a medical doctor. That means she will be able to make money and has a high social status.

But what else?

Will she be a better mother? Will she behave better in relationships, especially with her husband?

Does the PhD prevent her from being greedy?

 

So many things have little to do with education. I know a few highly educated people. Some are nice. Ohers are <deleted>. 

[bob smith]

2 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

No

Let's say she is a medical doctor. That means she will be able to make money and has a high social status.

But what else?

Will she be a better mother? Will she behave better in relationships, especially with her husband?

Does the PhD prevent her from being greedy?

 

So many things have little to do with education. I know a few highly educated people. Some are nice. Ohers are <deleted>. 

you are just spinning round what i said to suit your narrative.

 

Read what fredwiggy said.

 

He kinda hits the nail on the head.

[bignok]

28 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

One of the best predictors of a woman's future is the relationship she has with her parents, and especially her dad. If he's absent, she will always be looking for him in whatever man she meets, and without his guidance, she will find it hard to interact with males. If he was close to her, she will relate better to other males , especially if he taught her how men think and what they want from a woman. Mom can teach her how to be a woman, and also about other men. If her mom was treated well by her dad, she will see this and look for the same when she looks to a relationship with a man. If her dad treated her mom badly, she will lose trust in other men and will carry that into her relationships. As far as schooling, the more education she gets the better chances of her getting a better paying job, which means independence, and not having to rely on a man for his money, but looking for a man to be part of a team together, which will usually lead to a good future. Going through many boyfriends, many of whom are useless drunks, druggies or unemployed, does not work well for her future of course. Getting pregnant by one of these types also doesn't bode well, and is a hindrance to her independence.

Analysis paralysis

[bignok]

8 minutes ago, bob smith said:

you are just spinning round what i said to suit your narrative.

 

Read what fredwiggy said.

 

He kinda hits the nail on the head.

If you were female would you be a bargirl?

[bob smith]

2 minutes ago, bignok said:

If you were female would you be a bargirl?

No.

 

I have an education. 

[bignok]

1 minute ago, bob smith said:

No.

 

I have an education. 

Education in kfc?

[bob smith]

9 minutes ago, bignok said:

Education in kfc?

I used to work in KFC funily enough.

 

It's how I paid myself through college.

 

Imagine what these bar girls could do with their lives if they actually used the money that customers paid them towards something useful?

Edited August 7, 2023 by bob smith

[save the frogs]

14 hours ago, Dan O said:

Not much of a racist are you?

part of his post may have tinges of racism.

but part of what he said has some truth to it. 

there is an obsession with many asian women over white skin and blue-eyed babies which is silly, to put it mildly. 

 

[Dan O]

1 minute ago, save the frogs said:

part of his post may have tinges of racism.

but part of what he said has some truth to it. 

there is an obsession with many asian women over white skin and blue-eyed babies which is silly, to put it mildly. 

 

your comparison doesn't match with anything he said. His comments were directly racist and your comparison can't justify that to make it acceptable 

[save the frogs]

2 minutes ago, Dan O said:

your comparison doesn't match with anything he said. His comments were directly racist and your comparison can't justify that to make it acceptable 

I'm referring to asian women who obsess with whitening their own skin. That's not racism. It's being ashamed of your own race. 

 

[Dan O]

3 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

I'm referring to asian women who obsess with whitening their own skin. That's not racism. It's being ashamed of your own race. 

 

And that may be but that has nothing to do with your comparison of what I was commenting to about the racist comments. Two complete different issues 

[save the frogs]

17 minutes ago, Dan O said:

And that may be but that has nothing to do with your comparison of what I was commenting to about the racist comments. Two complete different issues 

I said that I agreed part of his post was racist.

he mixed multiple complex issues in one post, so it's confusing. 

so let's leave it at that.

 

[OneMoreFarang]

2 hours ago, bignok said:

If you were female would you be a bargirl?

50-year-old and ugly? 

[BritManToo]

2 hours ago, bob smith said:

....and a good predictor of a womans future is education. Wouldn't you agree?

 

I mean, its pretty obvious that a PhD will ultimately have a better life down the line than a 12th grade drop out who got knocked up by her meth addicted thai boyfriend? 

 

No?

No,

I married a farm girl then sent her to high school and on to university.

Obviously if I were as broke as you, I couldn't have done that.

Edited August 7, 2023 by BritManToo

[Goat]

On 8/5/2023 at 8:15 AM, bob smith said:

are they that desperate that the only girl they can get is a bar dweller?

Good question Bob.

 

You will find they mostly have some mental health issues, lack any real male friendships and are quite socially isolated. 

Broadly fall into two catogories, those who are sociopaths and those with autism and most of them wont even realise that they are 'off'.

 

For normal people sex is something that is to enjoyed by both partners. But for sociopaths and those with autism it simply makes no difference to them.

 

They will often have no male Thai friends despite living here for 10+ years. This simply does not bother them. And rarely have any friends back in their home countries.

 

The prostitutes quite often have mental health issues as well from years of being sexually abused and defiled by thousands, and in many cases tens of thousands, of some of the most desperate men on the planet who spend months in their home countries without any sex only to visit Thailand and unleash their built up sick fantasies on these wretched women.

 

Russians, Chinese, Thai and Indians are often critised by these men, but these groups rarely, if ever would lower themselves to marrying a whore.

 

From what I have seen the "typical'' foreigner who marries a Thai whore would be a divorced man from England, followed by the USA and Australia. The Europeans are a bit smarter and are happy to use these women but less likely to marry them and buy them a house, support their kids from other fathers etc etc.

 

It is mostly because of mental illness Bob. 

 

 

[Kwasaki]

17 hours ago, Dan O said:

Not much of a racist are you?

Fair call and can't post what you would like to these daus but makes you wonder why people like this are here.

[Goat]

2 hours ago, save the frogs said:

I'm referring to asian women who obsess with whitening their own skin. That's not racism. It's being ashamed of your own race. 

 

Rubbish. They dont want to be caucasion. They want to be asian with whiter skin because it is considered to be more attractive.

You think all the farangs lying out in the sun are trying to be black because they are ashamed of their own race?

[Goat]

2 hours ago, bob smith said:

Imagine what these bar girls could do with their lives if they actually used the money that customers paid them towards something useful?

Bob, I think you are expecting too much from them.

If they were smart they wouldnt be bargirls in the first place.

 

Even if they were not smart but hard working they wouldnt be a bargirl.

Being a bargirl is a job for the unintelligent and lazy.

[Goat]

3 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Let's say she is a medical doctor. That means she will be able to make money and has a high social status.

But what else?

Will she be a better mother? Will she behave better in relationships, especially with her husband?

I would say in 99% of cases the doctor would be a much better mother. To become a doctor you have to be smart and/or hard working and responsible.

 

The hookers generally dump their kids on mum up in Issan and slut around Pattaya etc and the world. They are lazy, stupid and irresposible generally speaking.

 

I know who I would prefer as a mum. 

[Goat]

53 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I married a farm girl then sent her to high school and on to university.

High school is narly free and Thais can get student loans for University.

There loans are to be paid every July.

good system for those with a bit of go.

[Kwasaki]

1 minute ago, Goat said:

Bob, I think you are expecting too much from them.

If they were smart they wouldnt be bargirls in the first place.

 

Even if they were not smart but hard working they wouldnt be a bargirl.

Being a bargirl is a job for the unintelligent and lazy.

Disagree an ex-bar girl I still hear from owns a beaut 3 bedroom house near Hua Hin and a 530e sport BM.

As she always said to me it's business.

[Goat]

8 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

Disagree an ex-bar girl I still hear from owns a beaut 3 bedroom house near Hua Hin and a 530e sport BM.

As she always said to me it's business.

So worth about 10 million baht?

That is 10,000+ loads of cum she has taken?

Or she went more the gold digging route?

 

There are always some exceptions, but most are there because they have no money.

[brewsterbudgen]

To quote Hannibal Lecter, "you covet what you see".  If you're a barfly and spend a lot of time barfining women in gogos and bars, eventually you're likely to get tired of it and maybe find a girl that you have a connection with. Whether you marry them or not depends on many factors.  

 

But if you're not of the "monger" persuasion, it's highly unlikely you'll meet a decent bargirl let alone marry one!

Edited August 7, 2023 by brewsterbudgen

[fredwiggy]

30 minutes ago, Goat said:

Bob, I think you are expecting too much from them.

If they were smart they wouldnt be bargirls in the first place.

 

Even if they were not smart but hard working they wouldnt be a bargirl.

Being a bargirl is a job for the unintelligent and lazy.

I agreed with your earlier post to Bob, about the mental illnesses, why some choose hookers over normal women, but here I disagree. Many bar girls are coming from abusive backgrounds where their own relatives did a number on them and it didn't have to do with intelligence. A mental illness, yes, because of the pain they suffered as children, but not because they are dense or lazy. And many are forced into it by sick human traffickers and do it out of fear. Some are pushed by disturbed parents and made to feel guilty if they don't sell their bodies to pay their parents bills. Some very intelligent women become prostitutes because of the former abuses, and stay with it, making their own money and able to afford good cars and condos, not using pimps because they know the outcome, being freelancers and keeping the profits. I've seen this back in the US, where a friend was a friend with a prostitute and told me about her lifestyle. She had a nicer car than anyone we knew, and lived in a nice apartment in NYC.

[Kwasaki]

27 minutes ago, Goat said:

So worth about 10 million baht?

That is 10,000+ loads of cum she has taken?

Or she went more the gold digging route?

 

There are always some exceptions, but most are there because they have no money.

They are still human beings whether you like it or not and have a choice to do with there life as they wish.

 

Men make make me laugh as it's ok for them to go with many women as they can but it's not OK for women. 

 

I know 3 more who have Europe and English husbands, one of the reasons why they were working a bar and hoping exactly that would happen.

 

I would say there's at least 5 reason for many of the girls that take up that kind of work.

[Expat68]

I have lived/visited Thailand for well over 30 years. Many people on here think just because the lady works in the bar she is bad (granted some are). The ladies who are teachers, nurses and government workers can be equally as bad. I know many who worked in the entertainment business when they were younger to sponsor their education because there parents did not have the money.

[animalmagic]

On 8/5/2023 at 8:29 AM, bob smith said:

I just dont get it.

 

There are OTHER girls in Thailand that are fit for marriage that happen to not work in a bar.

Why do you care? It's not your life.

[kingstonkid]

On 8/5/2023 at 9:12 AM, bob smith said:

me neither buddy. me neither.

There are bar girls that want the bar money.  There are a lot of ladies in bars that understand that their time is starting to wane and that they are getting older and the yonger ones are getting cuter.

The ones that are smart are looking for a man to look after them and be their husbands/sugar daddy.

One has to remember that a lot of the bar girls have family or kids that they are supporting back home therefore they need the money.

 

Would I marry a bargirl and not expect to either give her money on a monthly basis to spend as she wanted? No

But if I did the I would not be surprised if she carried on workng.

 

A lot of it depends on what you are looking for in the relationship.

To me when I dated bargilrs the part that hurt was the fact that to go out at night or go away was a pain.

 

[bignok]

1 hour ago, Goat said:

So worth about 10 million baht?

That is 10,000+ loads of cum she has taken?

Or she went more the gold digging route?

 

There are always some exceptions, but most are there because they have no money.

Lot

[bignok]

9 minutes ago, animalmagic said:

Why do you care? It's not your life.

Bogs is bored and lonely.