Opinion: Dear Pheu Thai, please stop your pantomime

[webfact]

Politics has shown itself to be a charade, perpetuated by the corrupt. If you need evidence, look no further than the past week’s developments. How else can we explain the Pheu Thai Party, after fighting their arch-enemies for nearly two decades, now suddenly joining hands with them on the grand stage of political theater?

 

Do they think the public is naive? The excuses being made by our new Prime Minister Srettha, as well as party leaders Phoomtham and Cholanan, appear to be more for their own benefit than for the people they purportedly serve.

 

We should brace ourselves to hear an onslaught of hollow phrases in the coming days and weeks: “necessary sacrifice,” “reconciliation government,” “need to move the country forward.” For the last three years, Pheu Thai leaders have confided in me, disparaging the very individuals they’re now cozying up to. From accusations like “Thammanat Prompan is a crooked, drug-dealing thug” to “Anutin Charnvirakul is killing the country with his ill-conceived vaccine policy,” these were LITERAL phrases uttered by Pheu Thai leadership. And yet, here they are, arm in arm, dancing in the repugnant waltz of politics.

 

by Arun Saronchai

 

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[Toolong]

I can't over-praise this piece. ????????????????The author displays very authentically, not only their own angst & revulsion at it all, but mine too, very precisely ????, and I would even like to personally thank them in particular, for bringing up Akanat Prompan. This vile individual was one of Suthep's and the 2014 coup-plotters most contemptible characters and to see him smugly parading alongside the other coalition gangsters summed up....to me.....all that is truly effed up here. 

[Tropicalevo]

I totally agree with Toolong.

Excellent piece of penmanship.

Unfortunately, there may be a libel case or too coming along next.

Thank God there are some honest news sources.

[bignok]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

Politics has shown itself to be a charade, perpetuated by the corrupt. If you need evidence, look no further than the past week’s developments. How else can we explain the Pheu Thai Party, after fighting their arch-enemies for nearly two decades, now suddenly joining hands with them on the grand stage of political theater?

 

Do they think the public is naive? The excuses being made by our new Prime Minister Srettha, as well as party leaders Phoomtham and Cholanan, appear to be more for their own benefit than for the people they purportedly serve.

 

We should brace ourselves to hear an onslaught of hollow phrases in the coming days and weeks: “necessary sacrifice,” “reconciliation government,” “need to move the country forward.” For the last three years, Pheu Thai leaders have confided in me, disparaging the very individuals they’re now cozying up to. From accusations like “Thammanat Prompan is a crooked, drug-dealing thug” to “Anutin Charnvirakul is killing the country with his ill-conceived vaccine policy,” these were LITERAL phrases uttered by Pheu Thai leadership. And yet, here they are, arm in arm, dancing in the repugnant waltz of politics.

 

by Arun Saronchai

 

Full story: https://www.thaienquirer.com/50506/opinion-dear-pheu-thai-please-stop-your-pantomime/

 

-- THAI ENQUIRER 2023-08-25

 

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The author is naive. Most politicians will do anything for power.

 

 

[ikke1959]

and don't forget that they are thinking about making Mr Prayuth minister of defence..Although he quitted politics a few weeks ago... Nothing is sure in Thailand and surely not with Pheu Thai

[bamnutsak]

from the opinion piece...

 

They insist that this alliance was a “necessary choice,” which is utter nonsense. The only plausible reason for this unholy union is to facilitate Thaksin Shinawatra’s return to Thailand. Do they really expect us to believe that Thaksin conveniently fell ill the moment he landed, thus avoiding a night in jail and instead securing an entire hospital floor?

 

 

It will be interesting to see how Thaksin repays his debt to the "powers-that-be" for this compromise.

 

 

 

 

[huangnon]

46 minutes ago, bignok said:

The author is naive. Most politicians will do anything for power.

 

 

Yep. Most politicians (and governments) are just rubber stamps and enablers for bankers, military, and corporations.

 

It's just a lot more transparent in LOS.

[mark131v]

Amen to that!!

 

Very good summing up of exactly what has been forced on the people, reprehensible disgusting behaviour, then again if you aren't willing to fight for change after decades of same old, same old some would say that you get the government you deserve......

[MrMojoRisin]

Will the public be able to hold on to this sentiment until the next election?

[bannork]

15 minutes ago, bamnutsak said:

from the opinion piece...

 

They insist that this alliance was a “necessary choice,” which is utter nonsense. The only plausible reason for this unholy union is to facilitate Thaksin Shinawatra’s return to Thailand. Do they really expect us to believe that Thaksin conveniently fell ill the moment he landed, thus avoiding a night in jail and instead securing an entire hospital floor?

 

 

It will be interesting to see how Thaksin repays his debt to the "powers-that-be" for this compromise.

 

 

 

 

Yes, the elite have got him by the short and curlies.

'Do as we say if you want to be free.'

I'm disgusted that so called democracy, anti- junta MPs like Chaturon and Adisorn ( 'I was under pressure'), haven't resigned.

Spineless.

[johnnybangkok]

10 minutes ago, mark131v said:

Amen to that!!

 

Very good summing up of exactly what has been forced on the people, reprehensible disgusting behaviour, then again if you aren't willing to fight for change after decades of same old, same old some would say that you get the government you deserve......

I'm not sure why you think the Thai people don't 'fight for change'? In 2010 they fought and 80 civilians and 6 soldiers died in that exchange. 
This is very different though as the very party they fought for all those years ago is now the party cosying up to those that initiated all the coups. This WILL come back to haunt them though as Move Forward are now ideally placed in opposition and will surely romp the next election (if they are allowed to run of course). 

 

P.S. Great article! Summed it up perfectly

Edited August 25, 2023 by johnnybangkok

[mark131v]

3 minutes ago, bannork said:

Yes, the elite have got him by the short and curlies.

'Do as we say if you want to be free.'

I'm disgusted that so called democracy, anti- junta MPs like Chaturon and Adisorn ( 'I was under pressure'), haven't resigned.

Spineless.

What do you expect, they are Thai males of the hi-so caste so what else can they be!

 

They know and care nothing for their people or their country, they care only their own self importance and self enrichment, it has always been obvious to see if you care to look....

[mark131v]

13 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

I'm not sure why you think the Thai people don't 'fight for change'? In 2010 they fought and 80 civilians and 6 soldiers died in that exchange. 
This is very different though as the very party they fought for all those years ago is now the party cosying up to those that initiated all the coups. This WILL come back to haunt them though as Move Forward are now ideally placed in opposition and will surely romp the next election (if they are allowed to run of course). 

 

P.S. Great article! Summed it up perfectly

Change has never been easy and the longer you put up with it, turn a blind eye, ignore, accept, stay silent the harder it gets

 

Needs real root and branch change and that will not come without significant pain

 

Unfortunately I think they have missed their chance and really didn't want it bad enough. I hope I am wrong.....

[bannork]

9 minutes ago, mark131v said:

What do you expect, they are Thai males of the hi-so caste so what else can they be!

 

They know and care nothing for their people or their country, they care only their own self importance and self enrichment, it has always been obvious to see if you care to look....

Both Adisorn and Chaturon fled Bangkok, to Laos and the jungle respectively, after the October 6  massacre.

Neither should be able, conscience wise, to remain in a government with a coup leader and supporters 

[mark131v]

2 minutes ago, bannork said:

Both Adisorn and Chaturon fled Bangkok, to Laos and the jungle respectively, after the October 6  massacre.

Neither should be able, conscience wise, to remain in a government with a coup leader and supporters 

Completely agree! What is going on is a charade their behaviour and that of all the parties is beyond the pale, disgusting but unfortunately not unexpected... 

[johnnybangkok]

Just now, mark131v said:

Change has never been easy and the longer you put up with it, turn a blind eye, ignore, accept, stay silent the harder it gets

 

Needs real root and branch change and that will not come without significant pain

 

Unfortunately I think they have missed their chance and really didn't want it bad enough. I hope I am wrong.....

Don't disagree and I think this must be a real kick in the teeth for any old style red-shirts but my point is this time, it's the very people who they fought for in the past, stabbing them in the back. And if their own people start protesting this then that's just an ideal opportunity for the military to roll out the tanks.......again!
They need to be patient and keep their disgust to themselves. Real change will only come through Move Foreward (or whatever they will be called at the time) and the likes and I believe this unholy alliance will not go unpunished come the next election. 

[bignok]

36 minutes ago, mark131v said:

Amen to that!!

 

Very good summing up of exactly what has been forced on the people, reprehensible disgusting behaviour, then again if you aren't willing to fight for change after decades of same old, same old some would say that you get the government you deserve......

Load of nonsense. Individuals need to look after themselves. The gov doesnt care about you and never will. The gov is an illusion.

[mark131v]

5 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

Don't disagree and I think this must be a real kick in the teeth for any old style red-shirts but my point is this time, it's the very people who they fought for in the past, stabbing them in the back. And if their own people start protesting this then that's just an ideal opportunity for the military to roll out the tanks.......again!
They need to be patient and keep their disgust to themselves. Real change will only come through Move Foreward (or whatever they will be called at the time) and the likes and I believe this unholy alliance will not go unpunished come the next election. 

I truly hope you are right but the establishment is not going to back off until they are forced to back off

 

That cannot happen by legal means as that avenue is bought and paid for so the only route is through disobedience or violence

 

There's no other way to affect change, if they wait to vote it will be exactly the same, the reptiles in charge will change the goalposts again, like I said I really hope I am wrong..  

[mark131v]

8 minutes ago, bignok said:

Load of nonsense. Individuals need to look after themselves. The gov doesnt care about you and never will. The gov is an illusion.

Gawd blimey guvnor you a yank by any chance.....

[spidermike007]

Good article. They used to be beloved and respected by the people. Now? Few believe in them anymore, after this betrayal and abandonment of their principals and utter display of immorality. 

 

Who is the new PM anyway, other than a Real Estate builder and salesman? Remind you of anyone? 

[Brickleberry]

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[bignok]

32 minutes ago, mark131v said:

Gawd blimey guvnor you a yank by any chance.....

No guv

[chickenslegs]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

Do they think the public is naive?

They don't give a damn about the public.

 

But, yes plenty are naive. My wife is very happy that they are all forgiving each other so they can work together for the good of the country. I'm tired of trying to explain the truth to her.

[mark131v]

4 minutes ago, bignok said:

No guv

Sorry then your cynicism of government had an American feel to it, apologies.....

[mark131v]

1 minute ago, chickenslegs said:

They don't give a damn about the public.

 

But, yes plenty are naive. My wife is very happy that they are all forgiving each other so they can work together for the good of the country. I'm tired of trying to explain the truth to her.

You can explain to them but unfortunately you can't understand it for them, a truth I have realised over time....

[bignok]

6 minutes ago, mark131v said:

Sorry then your cynicism of government had an American feel to it, apologies.....

Realism

Where are the poor politicians?

They are all well off

Wonder why

[mark131v]

3 minutes ago, bignok said:

Realism

Where are the poor politicians?

They are all well off

Wonder why

Can't argue with that!!

[kimamey]

2 hours ago, mark131v said:

Amen to that!!

 

Very good summing up of exactly what has been forced on the people, reprehensible disgusting behaviour, then again if you aren't willing to fight for change after decades of same old, same old some would say that you get the government you deserve......

What you seem to be suggesting is violence. I can see why that might happen now, in no way good however certainly understandable, but in the recent election they voted against this. That's the way it should work so they haven't really got what they deserved. 

[Enzian]

54 minutes ago, mark131v said:

Sorry then your cynicism of government had an American feel to it, apologies.....

Recalls the old joke: We try to be sufficiently cynical but some people make it hard to keep up. (I'm American and I approve of this statement, and if you think the government is working for you, I have a few bridges for sale...)

In the present Thai environment, how can these developments be viewed with anything but the utmost cynicism? But I guess whatever it takes to keep the baht in the tank...

[kennw]

3 hours ago, bamnutsak said:

from the opinion piece...

 

They insist that this alliance was a “necessary choice,” which is utter nonsense. The only plausible reason for this unholy union is to facilitate Thaksin Shinawatra’s return to Thailand. Do they really expect us to believe that Thaksin conveniently fell ill the moment he landed, thus avoiding a night in jail and instead securing an entire hospital floor?

 

 

It will be interesting to see how Thaksin repays his debt to the "powers-that-be" for this compromise.

 

 

 

 

To be sure the "debt" has already been paid. How many senators are there?