Where I live Ive noticed more locals are not obsessed with wearing the facial mask anymore. But some still are.

[advancebooking]

7 hours ago, NanLaew said:

You managed to see EVERY person in Switzerland while you were there on vacation? That's awesome!

 

Your Aussie mate can see clear across the Nullarbor and way up the Cape York? That's amazing!

 

Is he clever like you as well?

Troll alert

[advancebooking]

9 hours ago, likerdup1 said:

Me thinks one trusts ones own thinking too much. People are generally a lot happier if they let others go about their own business and pay more attention to their own.

 

Rational people take advice from persons recognized as authorities, experts and Doctors in their field. Personally, I feel that the Thai people show great respect for one another (and farangs) by wearing masks. Wearing a mask to a rational person says to others "I may be sick and want to protect you from my infection if I am". Basically wearing a mask says. I CARE ABOUT YOU. The Japanese have been doing this for decades. If a Japanese person is sick they wear a mask out of respect for others. The don't want to get OTHER people sick. It's a great show of respect for others. Not wearing a mask especially when one is sick with an air bourne pathogen like Covid shows lack of respect for others and is a very basic demonstration of self-centeredness.

I disagree. I spoke to a dr at bumrungrad about this. She said thai people are not wearing masks to consider other people. They wear them to protect themselves. thats all. 

[Bert got kinky]

18 minutes ago, advancebooking said:

I disagree. I spoke to a dr at bumrungrad about this. She said thai people are not wearing masks to consider other people. They wear them to protect themselves. thats all. 

Absolute tosh.

 

How does your 'Doctor' know the reason why Thais wear masks, does she talk to them all?

Does your doctor usually find time to also have conversations with a farang about her views on medical matters.

The majority of Thais that I meet and work with all wear a mask and they all seem to understand how the mask works and that it is a prevention to spreading the disease.

 

Your presumed Doctor is either an idiot or doesn't exist.

 

 

 

[Ralf001]

1 hour ago, advancebooking said:

Duh. It was his opinion. He lives in Syders. 

His opinion is BS.

[Skallywag]

I wear a hat outside to protect my exposed head from sunburn.  I wear sunglasses to protect my blue eyes from glare.  I wear a mask at times to protect from smells of car and motorcycle exhaust, children coughing and sneezing, and protection from sun on my nose and face under my hat.  

 

 

Lived here all during the pandemic and mandates were not enforced as with so many laws or mandates,  Really a non-issue in Thailand during the pandemic except inside some larger grocery stores where the management required masks, similar to requiring a shirt and shoes while inside a business.  Not a problem for 99% of people IMO

 

Cannot see how this is an issue in 2023

[Bert got kinky]

26 minutes ago, Skallywag said:

I wear a hat outside to protect my exposed head from sunburn.  I wear sunglasses to protect my blue eyes from glare.  I wear a mask at times to protect from smells of car and motorcycle exhaust, children coughing and sneezing, and protection from sun on my nose and face under my hat.  

 

 

Lived here all during the pandemic and mandates were not enforced as with so many laws or mandates,  Really a non-issue in Thailand during the pandemic except inside some larger grocery stores where the management required masks, similar to requiring a shirt and shoes while inside a business.  Not a problem for 99% of people IMO

 

Cannot see how this is an issue in 2023

 

I don't know where you were living during the pandemic but I would have to guess that you were in a tourist area.

Where I live, (Samutprakarn) everyone wore masks and followed the mandates, if you were not wearing a mask, you would not have gotten onto any shops.

Even the outside markets had a mask requirement and they has temperature posts at the entrances.

In fact, apart from the airport, masks are still very much the norm in Samutprakarn.

 

Also, you would not get into shops here without a top on, again that's only normal in tourist areas or deep, deep Isaarn.

 

 

 

 

[Stevey]

On 8/30/2023 at 6:21 AM, richard_smith237 said:

 

Someone of a dumbed down over simplification... 

 

Before Covid - mask wearing in Thailand was very limited, perhaps about 1 in 20 motorcycle riders and perhaps about 1 in 50 people walking down the street and next to no-one in shopping malls. 

 

Now, post covid, mask wearing is significantly greater - thus  IF your implication is that pre-covid mask wearing levels and post covid mask wearing levels is similar, you are quite incorrect. 

 

 

As for,  "who cares ???"

A lot of people do... There is an element of social pressure when it comes to mask wearing. 

If most around are wearing a mask, not through any understanding of the reasons but simply because everyone else is wearing a mask, then there is an element of 'following other people like sheep'... and often people want to think critically about their actions and behavior.

 

Thus - people care because they don't want to be the one that others look poorly upon for not socially conforming by wearing a mask, yet at the same time the realise that wearing a mask isn't quite necessary any more.

 

 

 

 

I’ve been back in the UK for a few months after 2 1/2years in Issan. In the same way I had to escape the locked down early 2021 UK for my own sanity I found that the ridiculous Thai public still 80% wearing masks in supermarkets as well as outside was similarly twisting my melons.

 

I’m travelling the UK for work constantly and now and then you’ll see the odd mask wearer in the street or sometimes one staff member in a shop or McDonalds. 
 

These people are suffering from a mental illness. 

[eisfeld]

2 minutes ago, Stevey said:

I’ve been back in the UK for a few months after 2 1/2years in Issan. In the same way I had to escape the locked down early 2021 UK for my own sanity I found that the ridiculous Thai public still 80% wearing masks in supermarkets as well as outside was similarly twisting my melons.

 

I’m travelling the UK for work constantly and now and then you’ll see the odd mask wearer in the street or sometimes one staff member in a shop or McDonalds. 
 

These people are suffering from a mental illness. 

If you think wearing masks is a sign of mental illness then it might be time to move? Maybe to the UK? After all who'd want to move in a place full of mentally ill people, right?

[transam]

7 minutes ago, Stevey said:

I’ve been back in the UK for a few months after 2 1/2years in Issan. In the same way I had to escape the locked down early 2021 UK for my own sanity I found that the ridiculous Thai public still 80% wearing masks in supermarkets as well as outside was similarly twisting my melons.

 

I’m travelling the UK for work constantly and now and then you’ll see the odd mask wearer in the street or sometimes one staff member in a shop or McDonalds. 
 

These people are suffering from a mental illness. 

I would suggest a people watcher like yourself may indeed have a mental illness taking notes of folk wearing a mask for whatever reason they are............????

[fredwiggy]

5 minutes ago, eisfeld said:

If you think wearing masks is a sign of mental illness then it might be time to move? Maybe to the UK? After all who'd want to move in a place full of mentally ill people, right?

We all do

[Stevey]

7 hours ago, eisfeld said:

If you think wearing masks is a sign of mental illness then it might be time to move? Maybe to the UK? After all who'd want to move in a place full of mentally ill people, right?

It’s not normal to decide to go and hang out and socialise with school friends at the Mekong River of an evening with a full face covering mask. Would you find it strange if it became the norm for kids to get brainwashed into this trend in a European country? 
 

I see the odd deluded mask wearer on my travels here in the UK as I do a 1000miles a week fixing 5hit. Some are obviously bewildered old folk or genuinely lost so we’ll exclude them but then there’s that one burger flipper that’s gotta be the one whose still wearing a mask. Then a couple of days ago in Aberystwyth,University town, I saw a couple of lefties student types through out the day probably on their way to pay for a bag of chips with a cheque walking down the road with masks on. Students, another bunch of brain washed who can’t see they are just customers of the educational industrial complex who will be lucky to get a job in a Convenience store when they graduate. I was fixing a machine in the back of house at a supermarket yesterday and got chatting with an 18 year old shelf stacker mid A levels. I didn’t have the heart to tell him he would probably never leave the stacking trade. Although I did tell him stop all his education and learn to fix machines. Looking at how he walked I then thought to changed my mind and told him to enjoy Uni. 
 

Funny how I have never seen a fellow engineer wearing a mask. In fact I’d be interested to meet a mask wearer and challenge them to list everything they know of use, excluding how to get dressed, get on a bus and how to purchase food on a sheet of A4 paper. 

[eisfeld]

1 hour ago, Stevey said:

It’s not normal to decide to go and hang out and socialise with school friends at the Mekong River of an evening with a full face covering mask. Would you find it strange if it became the norm for kids to get brainwashed into this trend in a European country? 
 

I see the odd deluded mask wearer on my travels here in the UK as I do a 1000miles a week fixing 5hit. Some are obviously bewildered old folk or genuinely lost so we’ll exclude them but then there’s that one burger flipper that’s gotta be the one whose still wearing a mask. Then a couple of days ago in Aberystwyth,University town, I saw a couple of lefties student types through out the day probably on their way to pay for a bag of chips with a cheque walking down the road with masks on. Students, another bunch of brain washed who can’t see they are just customers of the educational industrial complex who will be lucky to get a job in a Convenience store when they graduate. I was fixing a machine in the back of house at a supermarket yesterday and got chatting with an 18 year old shelf stacker mid A levels. I didn’t have the heart to tell him he would probably never leave the stacking trade. Although I did tell him stop all his education and learn to fix machines. Looking at how he walked I then thought to changed my mind and told him to enjoy Uni. 
 

Funny how I have never seen a fellow engineer wearing a mask. In fact I’d be interested to meet a mask wearer and challenge them to list everything they know of use, excluding how to get dressed, get on a bus and how to purchase food on a sheet of A4 paper. 

If a society does a certain thing like wearing masks then that is normal. Normal means what most people are doing.

 

That you have to call people wearing masks as "bewildered", "lost" or "gotta be the one who" shows that you fail to understand that some people might be more vulnerable in terms of immune system or maybe they have a cold and wouldn't want to spread it. Some companies have clear rules about safety measures and can require wearing a mask.

 

Do I think everyone should wear a mask right now? No. But to be so obsessed with others wearing a mask and ranting online about it... come one guys, get over it.

 

1 hour ago, Stevey said:

Funny how I have never seen a fellow engineer wearing a mask. In fact I’d be interested to meet a mask wearer and challenge them to list everything they know of use, excluding how to get dressed, get on a bus and how to purchase food on a sheet of A4 paper. 

To make you feel superior?

[Stevey]

1 hour ago, eisfeld said:

If a society does a certain thing like wearing masks then that is normal. Normal means what most people are doing.

 

That you have to call people wearing masks as "bewildered", "lost" or "gotta be the one who" shows that you fail to understand that some people might be more vulnerable in terms of immune system or maybe they have a cold and wouldn't want to spread it. Some companies have clear rules about safety measures and can require wearing a mask.

 

Do I think everyone should wear a mask right now? No. But to be so obsessed with others wearing a mask and ranting online about it... come one guys, get over it.

 

To make you feel superior?

I bet you loved the mask didn’t you ? I never believed any of it. Never wore a mask in a UK supermarket or anywhere. Only Thailand and the bare minimum. I get the feeling you would have been going along with everything in the 1940’s if you had the chance. 

[Stevey]

On 9/5/2023 at 10:20 PM, Ralf001 said:

Interesting, how does your mate know this ?

 

Was in a teams meeting last week with colleagues based in Melbourne, out of the 15 people in their meeting room, 4 were wearing masks.

Oz should be twinned with Wales. They literally went along with all of it. “ Going to work is not a reason to leave the house for the Unwakseenated” NT Chief Minister Michael Gunner.

Scary place unless you don’t value you freedom 

[TravelerEastWest]

14 hours ago, Stevey said:

I’ve been back in the UK for a few months after 2 1/2years in Issan. In the same way I had to escape the locked down early 2021 UK for my own sanity I found that the ridiculous Thai public still 80% wearing masks in supermarkets as well as outside was similarly twisting my melons.

 

I’m travelling the UK for work constantly and now and then you’ll see the odd mask wearer in the street or sometimes one staff member in a shop or McDonalds. 
 

These people are suffering from a mental illness. 

Actually COVID is still a big problem and masks help - are they perfect? - No, but the correct mask, worn correctly is very helpful, and my household of four has had  everyone get covid in the last couple of months - so I can assure you that COVID is still an issue.

 

Also I am in a high risk group as are millions of people worldwide so if you don't care about others then no comment... but I hope that you don't get COVID and no elders in your family get it from you...

[fredwiggy]

5 minutes ago, TravelerEastWest said:

Actually COVID is still a big problem and masks help - are they perfect? - No, but the correct mask, worn correctly is very helpful, and my household of four has had  everyone get covid in the last couple of months - so I can assure you that COVID is still an issue.

 

Also I am in a high risk group as are millions of people worldwide so if you don't care about others then no comment... but I hope that you don't get COVID and no elders in your family get it from you...

That's the main issue with wearing masks. If they save a life here and there because particles don't reach someone that's close to  you then that's their worth. They also help with not spreading colds and flu. I'd be willing to bet they have saved many lives before certain people got their vaccinations. Some people don't care about others, and their numbers are high.

[TravelerEastWest]

4 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

That's the main issue with wearing masks. If they save a life here and there because particles don't reach someone that's close to  you then that's their worth. They also help with not spreading colds and flu. I'd be willing to bet they have saved many lives before certain people got their vaccinations. Some people don't care about others, and their numbers are high.

Fredwiggy,

 

You are correct - sad that people can be so cold - but actually many who are against vaccines and masks are probably good people but they don't understand science...

[Stevey]

6 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

That's the main issue with wearing masks. If they save a life here and there because particles don't reach someone that's close to  you then that's their worth. They also help with not spreading colds and flu. I'd be willing to bet they have saved many lives before certain people got their vaccinations. Some people don't care about others, and their numbers are high.

 

1 hour ago, TravelerEastWest said:

Fredwiggy,

 

You are correct - sad that people can be so cold - but actually many who are against vaccines and masks are probably good people but they don't understand science...

You two carry on in your fantasy world. Every one has had Covid there is no escaping it. 

[fredwiggy]

3 minutes ago, Stevey said:

 

You two carry on in your fantasy world. Every one has had Covid there is no escaping it. 

No kidding. My point was that there are those that have conditions that would hurt them more than just a cough or sore throat. Wearing a mask can save lives the way I mentioned it before. People get close to each other everywhere, and if you have Covid, and are wearing a decent mask, your particles could be kept away from a person near you that hasn't been vaccinated, or that has a weakened immune system. Saving someone's life isn't a fantasy. Not caring about others around you is antisocial.

[transam]

7 minutes ago, Stevey said:

 

You two carry on in your fantasy world. Every one has had Covid there is no escaping it. 

I haven't............

[fredwiggy]

2 minutes ago, transam said:

I haven't............

Remember most people don't get sick, and are asymptomatic, but still carriers.

[Stevey]

44 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

No kidding. My point was that there are those that have conditions that would hurt them more than just a cough or sore throat. Wearing a mask can save lives the way I mentioned it before. People get close to each other everywhere, and if you have Covid, and are wearing a decent mask, your particles could be kept away from a person near you that hasn't been vaccinated, or that has a weakened immune system. Saving someone's life isn't a fantasy. Not caring about others around you is antisocial.

I haven’t been vaccinated and I had Covid in the UK on the day Boris announced for everyone to stay at home and subsequently destroyed the economy and countless lives telling us a 1000 people a day of differing ages, and to be scared. I then got it in Isaan a week after Omicron was talked about in the media. Just a cough for me. And strangely I have not been I’ll from any throat based illness since. Among various businesses i fix  machines at are supermarkets. The amount of talk I hear about workers being off with Covid is ridiculous. One guy said to me, who had been swinging the lead for two weeks until he tested clear, that he wished he had not taken that juice. He has been off six times with it so far.  I suppose my scepticism is born from working in a food factory in the whole year 2020 with 1000 international workers, where Covid was just not a thing. I left that factory in late January 2021. Completely sick of the lack of effects of Covid to the general public or those of us in the factory, or as I called it to test bed. I headed for Thailand for just over two years where I saw nothing to talk of either. People getting Covid and surviving with out medical intervention is nothing to report. 

[eisfeld]

On 10/1/2023 at 11:38 PM, Stevey said:

I bet you loved the mask didn’t you ? I never believed any of it. Never wore a mask in a UK supermarket or anywhere. Only Thailand and the bare minimum. I get the feeling you would have been going along with everything in the 1940’s if you had the chance. 

You like to assume a lot about people you know nothing about.

[TravelerEastWest]

21 hours ago, Stevey said:

 

You two carry on in your fantasy world. Every one has had Covid there is no escaping it. 

Do you really believe that?

 

I didn't have it until last month - one of my kids brought it home from school almost no-one wearing masks - yet kids get COVID and alerts are not sent out - if they had been I would have worn a mask at home for a while and more likely than not gotten COVID... And COVID was almost a go to the hospital sickness for me...

[Stevey]

16 hours ago, TravelerEastWest said:

Do you really believe that?

 

I didn't have it until last month - one of my kids brought it home from school almost no-one wearing masks - yet kids get COVID and alerts are not sent out - if they had been I would have worn a mask at home for a while and more likely than not gotten COVID... And COVID was almost a go to the hospital sickness for me...

Look my friend. With in a week of even talking about Omicron in the media in South Africa it was in our village in Isaan. How do you think you managed to escape it ? I’m the whole 2 years I was in Isaan I never heard about one person who died of Covid. 

[advancebooking]

On 10/2/2023 at 4:51 AM, Stevey said:

Oz should be twinned with Wales. They literally went along with all of it. “ Going to work is not a reason to leave the house for the Unwakseenated” NT Chief Minister Michael Gunner.

Scary place unless you don’t value you freedom 

Ultimate nanny state and dont most of the local population love it 

[TravelerEastWest]

On 10/4/2023 at 4:23 AM, Stevey said:

Look my friend. With in a week of even talking about Omicron in the media in South Africa it was in our village in Isaan. How do you think you managed to escape it ? I’m the whole 2 years I was in Isaan I never heard about one person who died of Covid. 

I escaped COVID until now by being careful: masks etc and vaccines and regular boosters but I do not wear a mask at home and schools are not requiring masks so I want careful enough recently.

 

Interesting that you have not heard of COVID deaths when there have been millions and that includes Isan,

[cdemundo]

What I have noticed is some people wear masks and some don't.

 

I have noticed that more people wear masks in some places (crowded BTS/MRT). than in others.

 

I try to wear a mask if everyone seems to do so (like on BTS), not bothered if I forget, get no dirty looks.

 

I was living in an AirBNB in a nice high rise apartment in BKK for a month this year. Almost everyone wore a mask in the elevator there and I tried to do so as well. Some people seemed to be paranoid in the elevator, turned their face to the wall right up to their nose touching. I got the impression they thought foreigners (like me) were carrying disease, but  don't really know. I guess the elevator is a confined space so that was the thinking.

 

Now I don't think about it much either way until I see a thread like this.

 

[Stevey]

On 10/5/2023 at 3:31 PM, cdemundo said:

What I have noticed is some people wear masks and some don't.

 

I have noticed that more people wear masks in some places (crowded BTS/MRT). than in others.

 

I try to wear a mask if everyone seems to do so (like on BTS), not bothered if I forget, get no dirty looks.

 

I was living in an AirBNB in a nice high rise apartment in BKK for a month this year. Almost everyone wore a mask in the elevator there and I tried to do so as well. Some people seemed to be paranoid in the elevator, turned their face to the wall right up to their nose touching. I got the impression they thought foreigners (like me) were carrying disease, but  don't really know. I guess the elevator is a confined space so that was the thinking.

 

Now I don't think about it much either way until I see a thread like this.

 

Look. I know that we all love Thailand and all that but as much as people like to say they are our intellectual equals? They are not. If you are taking  advice on whether to wear a mask from the majority of people you see about you in Thailand… don’t. 
 

In some of the places I work , now in the UK, I mix with shelf stackers in shops and supermarkets. They are now skeptical about the whole thing but were the easiest to indoctrinate while the process was going on. No mask worn anywhere. Why are you taking the lead from strapper hangers on the BTS ? 
 

One thing I’ve been seeing in these supermarkets is people being off with ‘ Covid ‘ six times since it started. How are people contracting it so much. I’ve never been jabbed and get around fine only getting it the two times went it came the first and second times.

 

No one is wearing a mask in the UK, apart from the unhinged, who is right and wrong the Thais or UK ? 
 

 

Edited October 8, 2023 by Stevey

[Stevey]

On 10/2/2023 at 1:25 AM, fredwiggy said:

That's the main issue with wearing masks. If they save a life here and there because particles don't reach someone that's close to  you then that's their worth. They also help with not spreading colds and flu. I'd be willing to bet they have saved many lives before certain people got their vaccinations. Some people don't care about others, and their numbers are high.

On 10/2/2023 at 5:46 AM, TravelerEastWest said:

Fredwiggy,

 

You are correct - sad that people can be so cold - but actually many who are against vaccines and masks are probably good people but they don't understand science...

 

 

 

 

 

@fredwiggy @TravelerEastWest you trying to lump everyone who didn’t consent to this injection that had at first had been predicted as ‘ gonna take years’ which then arrived after we’d all been exposed to the virus and developed natural immunity as anti-vaccine nuts. It has never occurred to me to be anti vax. The likes of RFK that say that vaccines are the reason that people of his age don’t have autism and children from a certain time onwards suddenly started developing autism now suddenly get the ear.. “ what he talking about about vaccines ??”

 

I was recently in a UK hospital working  a few weeks ago. The odd nut job was wearing a mask. The whole of Walsall Manor hospital (home of the pregnant smoker) was not wearing masks. If Covid was so prevalent and could be halted by a mask they would be mandated as an entry requirement. They are not.