Bkk Brian Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Thorgal said: 9th November 2023 : Palestinian Authority will prosecute Israel in the International Crime Court (ICC) at Den Hague for genocide (art. 6). Palestinian State has been recognized since 5/02/2021 for East Jerusalem, Gaza and the West Bank. No they won't. They can refer to ICC, who then have to make a full investigation and gather all facts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgal Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said: No they won't. They can refer to ICC, who then have to make a full investigation and gather all facts. I've got it from the French lawyer Mr. Gilles Devers, and he's representing the Palestinian State (not only Hamas). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted November 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 3, 2023 Just now, Thorgal said: I've got it from the French lawyer Mr. Gilles Devers, and he's representing the Palestinian State (not only Hamas). I don't care where you got it from...lol Its not possible to prosecute without the ICC first carrying out a full investigation....get a grip man 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, Thorgal said: 9th November 2023 : Palestinian Authority will prosecute Israel in the International Crime Court (ICC) at Den Hague for genocide (art. 6). Palestinian State has been recognized since 5/02/2021 for East Jerusalem, Gaza and the West Bank. Well. they'll need to get in line. With a budget of US$185,000,000 a year, after over twenty years they've indicted about forty people and jailed about six. Dang, I bet that's a great gig. I wish I'd have known what a gravy-train "public service" was when I was a kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proton Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 8 minutes ago, Thorgal said: 9th November 2023 : Palestinian Authority will prosecute Israel in the International Crime Court (ICC) at Den Hague for genocide (art. 6). Palestinian State has been recognized since 5/02/2021 for East Jerusalem, Gaza and the West Bank. Palestine is a fantasy state, not a real country not recognised by all members of the UN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, Thorgal said: I've got it from the French lawyer Mr. Gilles Devers, and he's representing the Palestinian State (not only Hamas). Yeah, in July of 2014. How is that going? Gilles Devers - Wikipedia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 10 minutes ago, Thorgal said: 9th November 2023 : Palestinian Authority will prosecute Israel in the International Crime Court (ICC) at Den Hague for genocide (art. 6). Palestinian State has been recognized since 5/02/2021 for East Jerusalem, Gaza and the West Bank. 4 minutes ago, Thorgal said: I've got it from the French lawyer Mr. Gilles Devers, and he's representing the Palestinian State (not only Hamas). Link, please. Also clarify the 'prosecute' bit. Lost in translation? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, proton said: Palestine is a fantasy state, not a real country not recognised by all members of the UN. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_the_State_of_Palestine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgal Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: Yeah, in July of 2014. How is that going? Gilles Devers - Wikipedia I'm faster and better than Wiki... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Thorgal said: I'm faster and better than Wiki... Certainly not better. ICC Procedure 1. Make a referral 2. Decision made to accept 3. Carry out full investigation 4. Decision made to go ahead and issue arrest warrants 5. Arrest 6. Court Case 7. Decision Time span.....................years, not 9th Nov Edited November 3, 2023 by Bkk Brian 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgal Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 7 minutes ago, Morch said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_the_State_of_Palestine For advanced : https://il.usembassy.gov/opposing-international-criminal-court-attempts-to-affirm-territorial-jurisdiction-over-the-palestinian-situation/ https://www.icc-cpi.int/sites/default/files/CourtRecords/CR2021_01165.PDF Again, I don't need wiki...and euh for most similar case to Gaza war now : for the Rohinga's was it Gambia (state) that filed the complaint to ICC because Rohinga's had/have no state recognition to ICC/UN... https://aseannow.com/topic/1308598-israel-is-at-war/?do=findComment&comment=18471610 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 Just now, Thorgal said: For advanced : https://il.usembassy.gov/opposing-international-criminal-court-attempts-to-affirm-territorial-jurisdiction-over-the-palestinian-situation/ https://www.icc-cpi.int/sites/default/files/CourtRecords/CR2021_01165.PDF Again, I don't need wiki...and euh for most similar case to Gaza war now : for the Rohinga's was it Gambia (state) that filed the complaint to ICC because Rohinga's had/have no state recognition to ICC/UN... https://aseannow.com/topic/1308598-israel-is-at-war/?do=findComment&comment=18471610 That's not the links we need, we need the links to this: 24 minutes ago, Thorgal said: 9th November 2023 : Palestinian Authority will prosecute Israel in the International Crime Court (ICC) at Den Hague for genocide (art. 6). Palestinian State has been recognized since 5/02/2021 for East Jerusalem, Gaza and the West Bank. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thorgal Posted November 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 3, 2023 12 minutes ago, Morch said: Link, please. Also clarify the 'prosecute' bit. Lost in translation? It's in French, and thus not according to forum rules. note : I speak 5 languages...so I'm not limited in my resources... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 Just now, Thorgal said: It's in French, and thus not according to forum rules. note : I speak 5 languages...so I'm not limited in my resources... Nor are we, Google translate works wonders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proton Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 15 minutes ago, Morch said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_the_State_of_Palestine 58 countries do not recognise it, no more real than Wakanda 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgal Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 22 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: Well. they'll need to get in line. With a budget of US$185,000,000 a year, after over twenty years they've indicted about forty people and jailed about six. Dang, I bet that's a great gig. I wish I'd have known what a gravy-train "public service" was when I was a kid. Genocide as per ICC article 6 : https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/ihl-treaties/icc-statute-1998/article-6#:~:text=Article 6 - Genocide,-Genocide&text=(c) Deliberately inflicting on the,the group to another group. Genocide : For the purpose of this Statute, "genocide" means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: (a) Killing members of the group; (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgal Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 24 minutes ago, Morch said: Link, please. Also clarify the 'prosecute' bit. Lost in translation? For advanced : https://www.bytheeast.com/2023/10/20/gilles-devers-on-gaza-the-notion-of-terrorism-does-not-exist-under-international-law/amp/ - still faster than wiki ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Thorgal said: For advanced : https://www.bytheeast.com/2023/10/20/gilles-devers-on-gaza-the-notion-of-terrorism-does-not-exist-under-international-law/amp/ - still faster than wiki ... So still waiting for a link to your claim........................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 43 minutes ago, proton said: 58 countries do not recognise it, no more real than Wakanda Yawn. Enough countries do. Whether the recognition means a whole lot is a different matter. Not all countries recognize Israel as well. Doesn't mean all that much either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 42 minutes ago, Thorgal said: For advanced : https://www.bytheeast.com/2023/10/20/gilles-devers-on-gaza-the-notion-of-terrorism-does-not-exist-under-international-law/amp/ - still faster than wiki ... Doesn't support what you claimed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemsta69 Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 44 minutes ago, Thorgal said: For advanced : https://www.bytheeast.com/2023/10/20/gilles-devers-on-gaza-the-notion-of-terrorism-does-not-exist-under-international-law/amp/ - still faster than wiki ... "Gilles Devers: I’m a dedicated supporter of the Palestinian cause." I stopped reading after that. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proton Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 11 minutes ago, Morch said: Yawn. Enough countries do. Whether the recognition means a whole lot is a different matter. Not all countries recognize Israel as well. Doesn't mean all that much either. If it was a country what is it's capital? It's a claimed state which incorporates other countries, so it's a fantasy country by muslim haters of Israel. When the PLO was set up in 1964 Israel only occupied Isreal, it only expended due to muslim aggression after that. There was no Palestine in 1964, there is not one now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 1 minute ago, proton said: If it was a country what is it's capital? It's a claimed state which incorporates other countries, so it's a fantasy country by muslim haters of Israel. When the PLO was set up in 1964 Israel only occupied Isreal, it only expended due to muslim aggression after that. There was no Palestine in 1964, there is not one now. Try reading my post again, and the link provided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 U.S. flying drones over Gaza in search of hostages https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/us-flying-drones-over-gaza-search-hostages-2023-11-03/ Probably also gives the USA better insight as to what Israel is doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eloquent pilgrim Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 I don’t often post links but this is an excellent article by Daniel Greenfield written a couple of weeks ago “It’s Islam, Stupid” https://www.frontpagemag.com/its-islam-stupid/ 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgal Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 33 minutes ago, Morch said: Doesn't support what you claimed. Is Palestine a state/country for UN : YES Is Palestine a state/country for ICC : YES Is Palestine subject of genocide : YES Is the lawyer starting the procedure in Den Hague on 9th of November 2023 : YES Cheers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgal Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 27 minutes ago, Morch said: Try reading my post again, and the link provided. For advanced : Ashkelon was always a Philistine capital in Biblical times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Morch Posted November 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Thorgal said: Is Palestine a state/country for UN : YES Is Palestine a state/country for ICC : YES Is Palestine subject of genocide : YES Is the lawyer starting the procedure in Den Hague on 9th of November 2023 : YES Cheers The third item is not a 'yes' other than in your mind, and Palestinian claims. That you decree it to be true doesn't mean much. There is no date set in the link provided, there is nothing about 'prosecute'. Even the link provided acknowledges it's a long process. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgal Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 13 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said: I don’t often post links but this is an excellent article by Daniel Greenfield written a couple of weeks ago “It’s Islam, Stupid” https://www.frontpagemag.com/its-islam-stupid/ We have some Muslim members on AN. Is this still OK as per forum rules to criticize publicly a religion "as stupid" ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorgal Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Morch said: The third item is not a 'yes' other than in your mind, and Palestinian claims. That you decree it to be true doesn't mean much. There is no date set in the link provided, there is nothing about 'prosecute'. Even the link provided acknowledges it's a long process. Can ICC prosecutors come into Gaza with permission from Israel under Israeli bombing ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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