rabas Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 13 hours ago, vinny41 said: The official X account for the Israeli government edited one of their tweets, which accused the PIJ of being responsible for the devastation in Al-Ahli Hospital. In its edit, the government removed a video purporting to show the rocket launches from their tweet after social media users pointed out that the timestamp on the clip was inconsistent with the reported time of the hospital strike. https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/misinformation-gaza-hospital-attack-1234856302/ More misinformation and false propaganda. The ultra clear video of the hospital bombing I posted above shows the hospital itself in flames, the hospital building is clearly visible with its unique rooftop solar array. It's not fake, It cannot have the 'wrong timestamp'. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabas Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Just now, thaibeachlovers said: LOL. See the post by vinny41 which has the israelis walking that back already, apparently because someone was incompetent with the fake deflection. See my rebuttal already posted. Please start showing some proof to back up your many false claims. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny41 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Israeli accounts delete video claiming Palestinians responsible for hospital strike Social media accounts belonging to the State of Israel and the Israeli ambassador to the US appear to have deleted a video on posts claiming that a rocket fired from within Gaza caused the deadly explosion at Al-Ahli Hospital in Gaza City. The video showed a barrage of rockets being fired, with one appearing to go off-course in a downward trajectory, followed by the flash of an apparent explosion. Both accounts edited their posts after Aric Toler, a journalist with the New York Times visual investigations team, questioned the time stamps on the video. Those time stamps indicated that the video was recorded at least 40 minutes after the explosion at the hospital was first publicly reported, Toler said. https://www.reddit.com/r/northernireland/comments/17aax4p/israelhamas_war_live_israel_kills_500_in_gaza/?rdt=64233 There must a reason why they deleted the videos in question was it because the New York times noticed a difference in the time stamps 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, rabas said: See my rebuttal already posted.ed links Please start showing some proof to back up your many false claims. I have posted links. I doubt anything I linked would satisfy you, but IMO most of the people on the planet believe it, and perhaps israel will come to regret it's actions in Gaza. https://wisevoter.com/country-rankings/number-of-muslims-in-the-world/ Number of Muslims in the World Global 1.9 Billion and right now many of them are hostile to israel Edited October 18, 2023 by thaibeachlovers 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny41 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 14 minutes ago, rabas said: See my rebuttal already posted. Please start showing some proof to back up your many false claims. Who to believe on X unknown Yousuf @yousuf_tw Joined May 2019 Follow Muslim. Pakistani-American. Observer. or Aric Toler Joined May 2014 @AricToler @nytimes Visual Investigations Previously @bellingcat https://www.nytimes.com/spotlight/visual-investigations 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 12 minutes ago, vinny41 said: Who to believe on X unknown Yousuf @yousuf_tw Joined May 2019 Follow Muslim. Pakistani-American. Observer. or Aric Toler Joined May 2014 @AricToler @nytimes Visual Investigations Previously @bellingcat https://www.nytimes.com/spotlight/visual-investigations The original video proving it was a rocket fired within Gaza that went down was a from Al Jazeera not "Yousuf" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny41 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Israel Profile edited the publication in which it accuses Islamic Jihad of bombing the Baptista Al Ahli hospital in Gaza. The video that was in the publication was removed, especially because it is a video that is circulating through fake profiles that accused Hamas and has no correlation with a… pic.twitter.com/olsZpATtvW — Irlan Simões uD83CuDFF4 (@IrlanSimoes) October 17, 2023 Journalist https://revistaforum.com.br/global/2023/10/17/israel-culpa-jihad-por-hospital-explodido-usa-video-fake-de-foguete-em-perfil-oficial-146037.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny41 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: The original video proving it was a rocket fired within Gaza that went down was a from Al Jazeera not "Yousuf" Should be simple for you to provide a link from Al Jazeera 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, vinny41 said: Should be simple for you to provide a link from Al Jazeera The AJ vid is in the tweet........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabas Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) 39 minutes ago, vinny41 said: Israeli accounts delete video claiming Palestinians responsible for hospital strike Social media accounts belonging to the State of Israel and the Israeli ambassador to the US appear to have deleted a video on posts claiming that a rocket fired from within Gaza caused the deadly explosion at Al-Ahli Hospital in Gaza City. The video showed a barrage of rockets being fired, with one appearing to go off-course in a downward trajectory, followed by the flash of an apparent explosion. Both accounts edited their posts after Aric Toler, a journalist with the New York Times visual investigations team, questioned the time stamps on the video. Those time stamps indicated that the video was recorded at least 40 minutes after the explosion at the hospital was first publicly reported, Toler said. https://www.reddit.com/r/northernireland/comments/17aax4p/israelhamas_war_live_israel_kills_500_in_gaza/?rdt=64233 There must a reason why they deleted the videos in question was it because the New York times noticed a difference in the time stamps What? A reddit account named northernIreland linked to an Al Jazeera page that has since been deleted/closed with no reference to New York Times is your proof?? ... then you opine there must be a reason things are deleted. Well yes. Please provide a direct link to the investigation of the video timestamp in your claim. It cannot be the video showing the hospital being hit. So, more misinformation. Edited October 18, 2023 by rabas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Qatar certainly blames israel for bombing the hospital. https://www.qna.org.qa/en/News-Area/News/2023-10/17/0070-qatar-strongly-condemns-israeli-occupation's-bombing-of-al-ahli-baptist-hospital-in-gaza Qatar Strongly Condemns Israeli Occupation's Bombing of Al Ahli Baptist Hospital in Gaza 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: Qatar certainly blames israel for bombing the hospital. https://www.qna.org.qa/en/News-Area/News/2023-10/17/0070-qatar-strongly-condemns-israeli-occupation's-bombing-of-al-ahli-baptist-hospital-in-gaza Qatar Strongly Condemns Israeli Occupation's Bombing of Al Ahli Baptist Hospital in Gaza Good example of making claims with no evidence 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Turkey blames israel for bombing the hospital https://www.ft.com/content/c0dbd9cf-249c-4890-aa04-9715857a9faa Turkey criticises Israel after explosion at Gaza hospital 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Jordan blames israel for bombing the hospital. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/17/world-reacts-as-gaza-officials-say-500-killed-in-israeli-strike-on-hospital In a statement on Tuesday, the Jordanian foreign ministry strongly condemned Israel’s attack and emphasised the need for international protection for Palestinian civilians and an end to the fighting. King Abdullah II said Israel’s bombing of Gaza hospital was a “massacre” and a “war crime” that one cannot be silent about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny41 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 8 minutes ago, rabas said: What? A reddit account named northernIreland linked to an Al Jazeera page that has since been deleted/closed with no reference to New York Times is your proof?? ... then you opine there must be a reason things are deleted. Well yes. Please provide a direct link to the investigation of the video timestamp in your claim. It cannot be the video showing the hospital being hit. So, more misinformation. Post is still on Al Jazeera page Time stamp 21:25 GMT) Both accounts edited their posts after Aric Toler, a journalist with the New York Times visual investigations team, questioned the time stamps on the video. Those time stamps indicated that the video was recorded at least 40 minutes after the explosion at the hospital was first publicly reported, Toler said. It was not clear if the video was removed from the Israeli accounts on X as a result of Toler’s analysis. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2023/10/16/israel-hamas-war-live-iran-warns-resistance-front-may-attack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted October 18, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 18, 2023 20 minutes ago, vinny41 said: Should be simple for you to provide a link from Al Jazeera I doubt he could. I've been watching Al Jazeera and they have said zero along the lines that the attack came from Gaza. The israeli disinformation machine is IMO working overtime on this one, as it looks really bad for israel. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said: I doubt he could. I've been watching Al Jazeera and they have said zero along the lines that the attack came from Gaza. The israeli disinformation machine is IMO working overtime on this one, as it looks really bad for israel. You're wrong but then you've got me on ignore so you'll never know...lol. Keep on in there in your echo chamber 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinny41 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 7 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: I doubt he could. I've been watching Al Jazeera and they have said zero along the lines that the attack came from Gaza. The israeli disinformation machine is IMO working overtime on this one, as it looks really bad for israel. They tried the same with Shireen Abu Akleh The longest-serving member of the Senate, Patrick Leahy, challenged the value of Israel’s report on Abu Akleh’s death, noting there was “a history of investigations of shootings by IDF soldiers that rarely result in accountability”. Leahy increased the pressure on Israel by suggesting that its failure to fully explain the Al-Jazeera reporter’s killing could jeopardise the US’s huge military aid to the Jewish state under a law he sponsored 25 years ago cutting weapons supplies to countries that abuse human rights. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/14/shireen-abu-akleh-killing-israel-fbi-investigation UN inquiry says Israeli forces killed journalist Abu Akleh 'without justification' https://www.tbsnews.net/world/un-inquiry-says-israeli-forces-killed-journalist-abu-akleh-without-justification-720230 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeworld Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) Amazing how quickly the ICC worked and convicted the Russian president but no action for several years by the ICC against perpetrators of war crimes against Palestinians and Israelis. Edited October 18, 2023 by freeworld 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: The israeli bombing of a hospital with 500 dead and many wounded has just united many Arab nations as seen by the joint news conference at the UN. Quite rightly too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said: Turkey blames israel for bombing the hospital https://www.ft.com/content/c0dbd9cf-249c-4890-aa04-9715857a9faa Turkey criticises Israel after explosion at Gaza hospital Wow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said: You're wrong but then you've got me on ignore so you'll never know...lol. Keep on in there in your echo chamber Do you thin Israel are acting correctly? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Just now, Neeranam said: Do you thin Israel are acting correctly? Do you think Hamas are acting correct? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Do you think Hamas are acting correct? no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeworld Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Do you think Hamas are acting correct? The nations and organisations and leaders of these war crimes are well known on both sides and to the ICC. Why does the ICC not immediately act and issue world wide arrest warrants for all of them? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, freeworld said: The nations and organisations and leaders of these war crimes are well known on both sides and to the ICC. Why does the ICC not immediately act and issue world wide arrest warrants for all of them? Evidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeworld Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Evidence? Oh there is plenty on both sides. Children are being maimed and killed. Edited October 18, 2023 by freeworld 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, freeworld said: The nations and organisations and leaders of these war crimes are well known on both sides and to the ICC. Why does the ICC not immediately act and issue world wide arrest warrants for all of them? Who do you think will go to Gaza and make the arrests and then take the terrorists to the Hague for a trial ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, freeworld said: The nations and organisations and leaders of these war crimes are well known on both sides and to the ICC. Why does the ICC not immediately act and issue world wide arrest warrants for all of them? I agree. Brain won't answer a simple question. Brian, do you support Israel bombing hospitals? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Neeranam said: I agree. Brain won't answer a simple question. Brian, do you support Israel bombing hospitals? I do not support anyone bombing hospitals what a stupid question. Its a tragic situation but what evidence do you have it was the IDF? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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