‘Nastiness, arrogance and misogyny’ of No 10 exposed at Covid inquiry

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A toxic culture of government incompetence, backstabbing and misogyny was laid bare at the Covid public inquiry on Tuesday with messages revealing Boris Johnson’s dismissive attitude to millions of old people at risk from the virus.

The former prime minister’s top aide Dominic Cummings was accused of “aggressive, foul-mouthed and misogynistic” abuse after messages showed he tried to sack the senior civil servant Helen MacNamara, saying No 10 was “dodging stilettos from that cunt”.

 

Johnson’s chaotic indecisiveness delayed lockdown measures, the inquiry heard, while he had told senior advisers the Covid virus was “just nature’s way of dealing with old people” and he was “no longer buying” the fact the NHS was overwhelmed during the pandemic.

Bereaved relatives reacted to the fresh evidence with horror after a bruising session of the Covid inquiry, with Cummings and Lee Cain, the former No 10 director of communications, questioning Johnson’s suitability for leading the country during the pandemic.

 

Susie Flintham, a spokesperson for Covid-19 Bereaved Families for Justice UK, said: “The nastiness, arrogance and misogyny at the heart of government during the pandemic is core to the awful decision-making that led to thousands of unnecessary deaths and tore families like mine apart. When you see that these figures had such a shocking disregard for each other, you can only imagine the disregard they had for families like mine.”

In a lengthy session before the inquiry, Cummings claimed the cabinet had been “largely irrelevant” to Covid policy in 2020, and that he was “reflecting a widespread view” that if anything understated the problem, when he used expletive-laden descriptions of ministers including “useless fuckpigs”, “morons” and “cunts”.

 

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[impulse]

The author forgot to mention hypocritical.  Partying hardy, while the serfs were masked up and isolated to home.

 

Edited November 1, 2023 by impulse

[thaibeachlovers]

Misogyny has to be the most misused word when attacking men. It's like calling someone a racist when one has nothing better to shut the opposition down. Doesn't matter if it's true or not, but it's one of those accusations that is hard to disprove, even if it's a blatant lie.

[Chomper Higgot]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Misogyny has to be the most misused word when attacking men. It's like calling someone a racist when one has nothing better to shut the opposition down. Doesn't matter if it's true or not, but it's one of those accusations that is hard to disprove, even if it's a blatant lie.

Of course it might just be the statements made were objectively misogynist, just like other statements might be objectively racist.

 

I myself don’t ever recall feeling I have been silenced for making misogynist or racist comments.

 

It’s just never happened.

 

Why I wonder?!

 

 

 

 

[JonnyF]

Another one where you can guess the source from the thread title. 😆

 

Gotta love The Guardian. I don't see any misogyny. If it was a bloke and someone said "I was dodging pint glasses from that prick" would it be Misandry? Of course not. People would be wondering what the bloke in question did to justify such a statement, not claiming he did nothing and the statement was Misandrist. Just left wingers pretending to be offended on someone else's behalf again, so they can clutch their pearls and feel superior to the "evil" Tories. Sad stuff. 

 

Guess what snowflakes? Politics can be nasty. If you don't like it, better get a job as an equality, diversity and inclusivity officer at the BBC or the NHS.🙈

[Chomper Higgot]

55 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Another one where you can guess the source from the thread title. 😆

 

Gotta love The Guardian. I don't see any misogyny. If it was a bloke and someone said "I was dodging pint glasses from that prick" would it be Misandry? Of course not. People would be wondering what the bloke in question did to justify such a statement, not claiming he did nothing and the statement was Misandrist. Just left wingers pretending to be offended on someone else's behalf again, so they can clutch their pearls and feel superior to the "evil" Tories. Sad stuff. 

 

Guess what snowflakes? Politics can be nasty. If you don't like it, better get a job as an equality, diversity and inclusivity officer at the BBC or the NHS.🙈

A line of argument that becomes more than a little problematic when the Guardian and the Inquiry make reference to testimony under oath and documented records.

 

 

 

[RuamRudy]

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

Another one where you can guess the source from the thread title. 😆

 

Gotta love The Guardian. I don't see any misogyny. If it was a bloke and someone said "I was dodging pint glasses from that prick" would it be Misandry? Of course not. People would be wondering what the bloke in question did to justify such a statement, not claiming he did nothing and the statement was Misandrist. Just left wingers pretending to be offended on someone else's behalf again, so they can clutch their pearls and feel superior to the "evil" Tories. Sad stuff. 

 

Guess what snowflakes? Politics can be nasty. If you don't like it, better get a job as an equality, diversity and inclusivity officer at the BBC or the NHS.🙈

 

The word misogyny was taken from a quote from one of the people mentioned in the report. It's hardly an opinion piece.

[Georgealbert]

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

Another one where you can guess the source from the thread title. 😆

 

Gotta love The Guardian. I don't see any misogyny. If it was a bloke and someone said "I was dodging pint glasses from that prick" would it be Misandry? Of course not. People would be wondering what the bloke in question did to justify such a statement, not claiming he did nothing and the statement was Misandrist. Just left wingers pretending to be offended on someone else's behalf again, so they can clutch their pearls and feel superior to the "evil" Tories. Sad stuff. 

 

Guess what snowflakes? Politics can be nasty. If you don't like it, better get a job as an equality, diversity and inclusivity officer at the BBC or the NHS.🙈

So you would like your news sources not to report the facts and quotes from the hearings, which the Guardian has done here.
 

You seem, again, to only want to read news that meets your agenda, and bias views. You really do find facts difficult!

[JonnyF]

10 minutes ago, Georgealbert said:

So you would like your news sources not to report the facts and quotes from the hearings, which the Guardian has done here.
 

You seem, again, to only want to read news that meets your agenda, and bias views. You really do find facts difficult!

 

Bias? The only bias is the way The Guardian are all over this story like white on rice. If this had been a story about Labour or Corbyn you'd never had heard about it. Well, not from the extreme left rag The Guardian anyway...

 

A few nasty text messages. Boo F'in Hoo. They can grow a pair or get out of politics.

[Georgealbert]

4 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Bias? The only bias is the way The Guardian are all over this story like white on rice. If this had been a story about Labour or Corbyn you'd never had heard about it. Well, not from the extreme left rag The Guardian anyway...

 

A few nasty text messages. Boo F'in Hoo. They can grow a pair or get out of politics.

Keep digging, all your doing is backing up what I said.

 

The Guardians reported facts from the hearing and you do not like facts. You seem to thinks you and only you are ever right. Your rigid and narrow minded perspective of the world really prevents you from seeing the facts.

 

So what happens when again you don’t like the facts, you go off on another rant. 
 

 

[JayClay]

20 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Doesn't matter if it's true or not, but it's one of those accusations that is hard to disprove, even if it's a blatant lie.

 

How is being misogynistic difficult to disprove? Or being racist, for that matter.

[Eleftheros]

16 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Of course it might just be the statements made were objectively misogynist, just like other statements might be objectively racist.

The whole point about racism and misogyny, according to the activists, is that it is fundamentally subjective.

 

If you feel offended by some remark addressed to you, then it is by definition an offensive remark - in law.

 

As the UK's Crown Prosecution Service states to be the definition of a racist offence: ""Any incident/crime which is perceived by the victim or any other person to be motivated by hostility or prejudice based on a person's race or perceived race."

 

No objectivity is required, even if it were possible to decided what 'objectively racist' means.

[Chomper Higgot]

5 minutes ago, Eleftheros said:

The whole point about racism and misogyny, according to the activists, is that it is fundamentally subjective.

 

If you feel offended by some remark addressed to you, then it is by definition an offensive remark - in law.

 

As the UK's Crown Prosecution Service states to be the definition of a racist offence: ""Any incident/crime which is perceived by the victim or any other person to be motivated by hostility or prejudice based on a person's race or perceived race."

 

No objectivity is required, even if it were possible to decided what 'objectively racist' means.

You need to go back to law school.

[JonnyF]

2 hours ago, Georgealbert said:

Keep digging, all your doing is backing up what I said.

 

The Guardians reported facts from the hearing and you do not like facts. You seem to thinks you and only you are ever right. Your rigid and narrow minded perspective of the world really prevents you from seeing the facts.

 

So what happens when again you don’t like the facts, you go off on another rant. 
 

 

 

You appear to have missed the point I was making and then gone off on a personal attack. 

 

OOhhhhh a politician send a hurty text message. Shall we hold a vigil?

[thaibeachlovers]

50 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

You appear to have missed the point I was making and then gone off on a personal attack. 

 

OOhhhhh a politician send a hurty text message. Shall we hold a vigil?

That guy likes insulting posters that don't agree with him. I had to put him on ignore a while back it was so bad.

[JonnyF]

33 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

That guy likes insulting posters that don't agree with him. I had to put him on ignore a while back it was so bad.

 

Yeah he was banned under a different username then re-joined to relaunch the personal attacks. Sad.

 

Anyway, back on topic, this is an excellent article from the legends over at Spiked on exactly what this inquiry was seeking to achieve. No wonder the guardian is all over it.

 

https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/11/01/the-covid-inquiry-is-a-liberal-elite-whitewash/

 

 

 

Edited November 2, 2023 by JonnyF

[Georgealbert]

32 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

That guy likes insulting posters that don't agree with him. I had to put him on ignore a while back it was so bad.

How is stating facts an insult? Happy to be on your long ignore list.

[Georgealbert]

1 minute ago, JonnyF said:

 

Yeah he was banned under a different username then re-joined to relaunch the personal attacks. Sad.

 

Anyway, back on topic, this is an excellent article from the legends over at Spiked on exactly what this inquiry was seeking to achieve. No wonder the guardian is all over it.

 

https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/11/01/the-covid-inquiry-is-a-liberal-elite-whitewash/

 

 

55555

 

Where was I banned?

 

All I have asked you for is the links to real facts. Youtube posts, like in your other thread is not facts.

 

So lets stick with the originally thread, which was quoting facts about what was said at the hearing, it was not opinion piece from the The Guardian, it was a statement of the details of the hearings.

 

It was you that went off on a rant. If you cannot remember see below. Talking of abuse it was you calling people “snowflakes”, then start whining when people call you out on your false facts.

 

 

[RayC]

45 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Yeah he was banned under a different username then re-joined to relaunch the personal attacks. Sad.

 

Anyway, back on topic, this is an excellent article from the legends over at Spiked on exactly what this inquiry was seeking to achieve. No wonder the guardian is all over it.

 

https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/11/01/the-covid-inquiry-is-a-liberal-elite-whitewash/

 

 

 

 

Even by the basement-level standards of the "legends" at Spiked this one is a cracker😂: The Covid inquiry is just a pretence for 'Remainers' to bleat about Brexit. 

 

One wonders why they stopped there? It's common knowledge that Covid was invented by Remainers working in the Wuhan lab, and then unleashed on the world as a punishment for the world not intervening to stop Brexit.

[billd766]

If there is one thing that I have learnt over the past decade from observing politicians et al world wide is simply this. 

 

As soon as you open your mouth or flex your fingers on the keyboard< ALWAYS remember that somebody, somewhere will be listening, watching and/or recording everything that you post/print/speak and that they or somebody else will find it and throw it back at you at the most inopportune moment for you.

 

People will wait for days, weeks, months even years or decades and then take the opportunity that you offered to throw it back.

 

[thaibeachlovers]

On 11/2/2023 at 10:03 PM, billd766 said:

If there is one thing that I have learnt over the past decade from observing politicians et al world wide is simply this. 

 

As soon as you open your mouth or flex your fingers on the keyboard< ALWAYS remember that somebody, somewhere will be listening, watching and/or recording everything that you post/print/speak and that they or somebody else will find it and throw it back at you at the most inopportune moment for you.

 

People will wait for days, weeks, months even years or decades and then take the opportunity that you offered to throw it back.

 

Agree.

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On 11/2/2023 at 4:00 PM, RayC said:

 

Even by the basement-level standards of the "legends" at Spiked this one is a cracker😂: The Covid inquiry is just a pretence for 'Remainers' to bleat about Brexit. 

 

One wonders why they stopped there? It's common knowledge that Covid was invented by Remainers working in the Wuhan lab, and then unleashed on the world as a punishment for the world not intervening to stop Brexit.

You should be writing for The Telegraph.

[roo860]

On 11/1/2023 at 3:15 PM, impulse said:

The author forgot to mention hypocritical.  Partying hardy, while the serfs were masked up and isolated to home.

 

I was working full-time all through this, round to mate's houses, drinking, took no notice what the government said, stuff em.