TM 30 How long to file ?

[IvorBiggun2]

2 minutes ago, Tropicalevo said:

 

(Here on Samui, immigration are carrying out random checks looking for tourists with no TM 30 or expired visas.)

So they should 

[Pattaya57]

7 minutes ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

There is no further TM30's required if the lease hasn't been broken. 

Not correct. If Renter leaves Thailand without a re-entry permit they will need to do another TM30 for their new entry permission

 

Example, someone rents with single entry Tourist visa, does border hop and comes back on new tourist visa

 

Edited December 7, 2023 by Pattaya57

[IvorBiggun2]

3 minutes ago, mokwit said:

I am sure that is correct, but there are reports of request for a more recent TM30 even in those circumstances.

"There are reports" ? Do you listen to rubbish?

[IvorBiggun2]

2 minutes ago, Pattaya57 said:

Not correct. If Renter leaves Thailand without a re-entry permit they will need to do another TM30 for their new entry permission

 

Example, someone rents with single entry Tourist visa, does border hop and comes back on new tourist visa

 

Yes because he broke the rules by leaving Thailand. Obviously a new TM 30 is required.

[dcalaska]

My Thai lady tried filing TM30 online but it would not work. Monday I went to the Phayao immigration office to file a TM30 for my Thai lady who could not get time off from work to do it herself. I had a ''power of attorney'' and all the necessary paperwork. I arrived at 08:30 am as the doors opened. The officer said'' foreigner cannot file TM30, only a Thai person''. But she took my stack of papers and asked me to have a seat. She would ask her big boss, etc. blah blah. I waited and waited. 10am she called me to the window and said the same thing.  Only Thais can file a TM30, even though she never asked anyone else for help in the office. She handed back all my paperwork and told me to get my Thai lady to come in.

I called my Thai Lady at work and she said she would leave work early to make the long drive to Phayao immigration. She walked in ,said NOTHING, handed the stack of paperwork over and walked out with a TM30 receipt in less than 2 minutes.

Truely immigration does not make anything easy for foreigners. Each year it seems to get harder and harder to comply with regulations.

[mokwit]

Just now, IvorBiggun2 said:

"There are reports" ? Do you listen to rubbish?

On this web board. I make a judgement as to how credible the poster/advice is.

[Pattaya57]

1 minute ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

Yes because he broke the rules by leaving Thailand. Obviously a new TM 30 is required.

How has he broken the rules by leaving Thailand? What rules as everyone is allowed to leave Thailand as many times as they like during a lease

[alex8912]

42 minutes ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

 

I once renewed my passport at immigration. They wanted 500 Baht to do so. I told them the service was free. Did I get kicked out?????

What exact year? Don't lie. 

[alex8912]

11 minutes ago, dcalaska said:

My Thai lady tried filing TM30 online but it would not work. Monday I went to the Phayao immigration office to file a TM30 for my Thai lady who could not get time off from work to do it herself. I had a ''power of attorney'' and all the necessary paperwork. I arrived at 08:30 am as the doors opened. The officer said'' foreigner cannot file TM30, only a Thai person''. But she took my stack of papers and asked me to have a seat. She would ask her big boss, etc. blah blah. I waited and waited. 10am she called me to the window and said the same thing.  Only Thais can file a TM30, even though she never asked anyone else for help in the office. She handed back all my paperwork and told me to get my Thai lady to come in.

I called my Thai Lady at work and she said she would leave work early to make the long drive to Phayao immigration. She walked in ,said NOTHING, handed the stack of paperwork over and walked out with a TM30 receipt in less than 2 minutes.

Truely immigration does not make anything easy for foreigners. Each year it seems to get harder and harder to comply with regulations.

What a pathetic waste of time for her. She must be a saint to not freak out on those idiots. 

[IvorBiggun2]

28 minutes ago, Pattaya57 said:

How has he broken the rules by leaving Thailand? What rules as everyone is allowed to leave Thailand as many times as they like during a lease

If you leave Thailand and re-enter later then you need a new TM 30 in your passport. All is explained  https://propertyscout.co.th/en/guides/tm30-all-there-is-to-know-landlord/

[IvorBiggun2]

27 minutes ago, alex8912 said:

What exact year? Don't lie. 

Knowing that serves no purpose. 

[alex8912]

8 minutes ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

Knowing that serves no purpose. 

Yup. Figured you were spewing. 
 

[Pattaya57]

12 minutes ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

If you leave Thailand and re-enter later then you need a new TM 30 in your passport. 

Going in circles. You said you never need another TM30 if you don't break a rental lease. I gave an example of when you would need to do another TM30 and now you're telling me what I already told you lol

[mokwit]

12 minutes ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

Knowing that serves no purpose. 

I think it is very important that people say when something was as there have been so many tightening/changes over the last few years.

[YayaManos]

There is on telegram offering this service for no cost of charge. However, you do need to sign up!

tm30.io

[V8M8]

1 hour ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

 

I once renewed my passport at immigration. They wanted 500 Baht to do so. I told them the service was free. Did I get kicked out?????

Just curious Ivor, which country's passport can you renew at immigration? I have always had to go to my home country's embassy in BKK to apply for a new passport. 

Also while I am here, does anyone know about filing a TM30 if you own your own condo? 

Cheers V8M8.

[Pattaya57]

3 minutes ago, V8M8 said:

Also while I am here, does anyone know about filing a TM30 if you own your own condo? 

Cheers V8M8.

Yes, go to your local IO and submit the following:

 

-TM30 application Form

- copy of passport ID page

- copy of current entry stamp

- copy of your Condo Chanote

 

On TM30 you fill out your details twice, once as the owner and then as the lodger.

[Dante99]

1 hour ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

I once renewed my passport at immigration.

You do some unusual cheet.  But of course you did not renew your passport at immigration really.

[khunPer]

12 hours ago, teecee said:

How long do you have to file a TM30 , I rent a house and my landlord refuses to do this for me, I arrive on a Friday, which would not give me enough time to complete the task that day , thank you 

Officially 24 hours.

[SunsetT]

12 hours ago, teecee said:

How long do you have to file a TM30 , I rent a house and my landlord refuses to do this for me, I arrive on a Friday, which would not give me enough time to complete the task that day , thank you 

Just tell them u arrived that day or the day before. My landlord usually take about 2 weeks to do it but it is dated when he does it or the day before.

[IvorBiggun2]

1 hour ago, V8M8 said:

Just curious Ivor, which country's passport can you renew at immigration?

I missed out the word 'stamps'.

[GypsyT]

"Just tell them u arrived that day or the day before."

 

That will work. Then hand over a copy of arrival stamp page...

 

[xtrnuno41]

[Smokey and the Bandit]

6 hours ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

You are well within your rights to tell them to stick it.

It is the Landlord's or Hotels responsibility, unless you own a condo and are staying in it.

Also as you say any fine 'should' be paid by the Landlord/Hotel, but if they don't pay, who gets the problem?

Telling immigration to 'stick' anything is probably not a good idea?

[IvorBiggun2]

35 minutes ago, Smokey and the Bandit said:

Telling immigration to 'stick' anything is probably not a good idea?

Grow some. They ain't gonna kick you out. You are in the right.

 

[Smokey and the Bandit]

10 hours ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

Grow some. They ain't gonna kick you out. You are in the right.

 

Well they may or may not, but they can make things very difficult for you?

[IvorBiggun2]

33 minutes ago, Smokey and the Bandit said:

Well they may or may not, but they can make things very difficult for you?

In what way?

[Tom H]

18 hours ago, IvorBiggun2 said:

 

It is not your job to file a TM 30.

 

 

The fine is not yours to pay. It's your landlords. Why do people post absolute tosh?

I am owner of my condo:). So I am the landlord😉The horizon of many people is like a circle with radius zero.

Edited December 7, 2023 by Tom H

[Tom H]

18 hours ago, mokwit said:

You are right, but Immigration have made it our job.

He is not right because it was my job as landlord of my own condo:).

 

Actually nonsense what he wrote😉 or he just believes what he thinks and insults because he is lonely or whatever issue.

[IvorBiggun2]

1 hour ago, Tom H said:

He is not right because it was my job as landlord of my own condo:).

 

We're not discussing those that own their own condo and are therefore their own landlords. We're discussing the majority of those that have landlords and are being railroaded by immigration.

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Just because you are your own landlord, for lack of better term, does not mean that landlord ie. YOU, don't need to file a TM30. You do and in fact, it is rather more clear-cut when you own your own condominium that you in fact need to file your own TM30.

Edited December 8, 2023 by IvorBiggun2