German accused faces criminal charges at home over under-age liaison with a 17-year-old Pattaya bar girl

[Nick Carter icp]

3 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

My woman is 47.

 

  Wasn't you Sons Mother still a minor  when she gave birth ?

14 ?

[Enoon]

1 hour ago, Bangkok Barry said:

 

It didn't happen in Germany. But, from the linked article:
However, it is not clear if the German man can be charged or what the nature of the charges may be, given that the age of consent in Germany is 14 and prostitution, which is the context here, is legal.

 

Surely he should be charged with breaking Thai law. But again Germany, unlike many EU countries, the USA and Australia, appears to not care what laws a German breaks as long as it isn't in Germany. That's interesting, and maybe why the accused admitted his actions, knowing he would not be prosecuted back home

At the same time, some European and Scandinavian countries, unlike Germany, criminalise all sex tourism activities by their citizens abroad.

 

"......appears to not care what laws a German breaks as long as it isn't in Germany"

 

Putting aside the subject of this thread subject for a moment, the same is certainly true of Thailand in the case of Mr Thamannat........4 years time in Australia for drugs but allowed to be a government minister:

 

"The court said it did not recognise Mr Thammanat's conviction because the verdict was delivered in Australia, a foreign country."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-57001674

 

Thailand is a country mired in distortion, corruption and "immorality".........which is what gives an air of absurdity, as always, to the "outrage" surrounding the incident under discussion on this thread.

 

The German guy blabbed in a documentary and Thailand "loses face".......again.

 

That's why the fuss.

 

Meanwhile the roaring trade in teenage prostitution and the bribing of officials/collusion of them in the trade continues, and will continue, unabated and approved....."that's what they're like".

 

 

 

Edited December 12, 2023 by Enoon

[Bangkok Barry]

13 minutes ago, Enoon said:

 

"......appears to not care what laws a German breaks as long as it isn't in Germany"

 

Putting aside the subject of this thread subject for a moment, the same is certainly true of Thailand in the case of Mr Thamannat........4 years time in Australia for drugs but allowed to be a government minister:

 

"The court said it did not recognise Mr Thammanat's conviction because the verdict was delivered in Australia, a foreign country."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-57001674

 

Thailand is a country mired in distortion, corruption and "immorality".........which is what gives an air of absurdity, as always, to the "outrage" surrounding the incident under discussion on this thread.

 

The German guy blabbed in a documentary and Thailand "loses face".......again.

 

That's why the fuss.

 

Meanwhile the roaring trade in teenage prostitution and the bribing of officials/collusion of them in the trade continues, and will continue, unabated and approved....."that's what they're like".

 

 

 

 

Agreed. But I didn't suggest that only Germany might be at fault in such cases.

[IamNoone88]

Legal or not, he is old enough to know better and for that he needs a wake up slap .. which he is now very likely get.

[Jimbo 12345]

17 ????  Shes not a child,  also she consented ?  If the guy was 20 years old,  would it still make the headlines???   OMG,  she's old enough to get married,  good on you mate,  you've done nothing wrong. 

[jacknorman]

legal or not. Any older person that wants to stick his w!llie in a minor should be locked up. Also men here that think they can have a normal relation with a girl thats 35 years younger..........what a joke. Get youself examined.

 

 

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[AAArdvark]

5 hours ago, ChrisY1 said:

Foreign men will soon need to have proof of age before taking a hooker.....Pattaya has something like 25000 hookers, in a place where prostitution doesn't exist....unless of course the cops can make money!

If you ask if it is a ladyboy or lady you can ask how old she is. Unless you don't care about either

[PJ71]

4 hours ago, 300sd said:

A 17 yr old can look like a 25 yr old here in Thailand.

This is arse about tit, normally Thais ( like a lot of asians ) look a lot younger than they actually are.

[Cabradelmar]

17 year old working in a Pattaya bar as a prostitute (that's your headline, albeit not shocking)

[Jackbenimble]

5 hours ago, ChrisY1 said:

Foreign men will soon need to have proof of age before taking a hooker.....Pattaya has something like 25000 hookers, in a place where prostitution doesn't exist....unless of course the cops can make money!

Fake Thai ID cards are readily available........seeing her ID will not stop it from happening unless you know how to spot a fake one? It's sometimes very difficult to guess with any accuracy a Thai persons age.....even someone who looks "young" can be late 20's. 

[Jiggo]

5 hours ago, ChrisY1 said:

Foreign men will soon need to have proof of age before taking a hooker.....Pattaya has something like 25000 hookers, in a place where prostitution doesn't exist....unless of course the cops can make money!

Where did you get that figure from...

[Jack Hammer]

5 hours ago, proton said:

That's called an ID card, you only have to ask to see them

Have you ever studied the photos on these ID cards. They resemble nothing like the actual individual. Very low quality photos 

[bristolgeoff]

I believe if you own a bar  you need to check their are 21 before they work there.Otherwise the bar owner in trouble  also the customer.In pattaya that is hard to do as id,s and many are fake but this is thailand and trying to stop them is impossible

[Iamloki]

5 hours ago, ChipButty said:

I think I read somewhere there is no extradition treaty between Germany and Thailand 

From Google: Others, such as Germany and Israel, do not allow for extradition of their own citizens in their constitutions.

[Jonathan Swift]

5 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Is sex with a 17yo illegal in Germany?

I think not!

 

Can you even extradite someone for this?

So you'd be willing to offer up your 17 year old daughter or granddaughter for the enjoyment of tourists? Or are you also a sex tourist/pedophiIe? Perhaps you married a 17 year old. OK, LEGAL age of consent is a grey area between cultures, but there is a higher moral perspective as to what defines a child vs an adult. I don't think most decent rational people consider 17, or even 18, to be a fully mature adult capable of making adult decisions at the level of a 25 - 45 year old. Then one has to ask, why would anyone lust after a young teenager when there are plenty of 21+ year old perfectly legal and equally beautiful available women? Something wrong with that picture. And yes, though there isn't a treaty with Germany, extradition is possible under a certain process between the two countries. 

[helloagain]

5 hours ago, proton said:

That's called an ID card, you only have to ask to see them

But we are in 2023 but in thai years it's year ????. So not as easy as you say. 

[Jack Hammer]

1 minute ago, Jiggo said:

Where did you get that figure from...

Experience, he has seen them all 

[Smokey and the Bandit]

5 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

 

there is no prostitution in Pattaya.

The RTP say there is no prostitution in Pattaya, there is a subtle difference!

[Iamloki]

Just now, Jonathan Swift said:

pedophile

Just for the record, while I do not disagree with what you're trying to say, pedophile refers to sex with a prepubescent child.

[Jackbenimble]

3 hours ago, Destiny1990 said:

How can a 17 year old work in a bar?

better arrest that bar owner!

errrr..........that would likely be one of the BIB. So it's a no.

[Spock]

5 hours ago, Henk Langeweg said:

17! year and consent. Ridiculous! Nothing to see here. 

This hardly requires Big Joke personally going to Germany. Save the big guns for real abuse of minors, not this middle of the road stuff. This is just Thailand pretending to flex its muscles and get tough over things that don't really matter much.

[daejung]

4 hours ago, Morch said:

 

Maybe I'm missing something, but that 'even if there is a Extradition Treaty' - why would they have one if it's unconstitutional?

For foreigners

[Spock]

4 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Quite the opposite  Going after the end user, customer, is the easy, correct way to go.  End the demand, and theoretically, you'll end the supply.  Sadly, simply too many pervs out there, that want to have sex with children.

 

Don't knw about Germany, but it is illegal to travel internationally to have sex with minors.  If known, one would face arrest on return to USA.  I've even send news-blips of Yanks arrest to FBI for their consideration.

This is not a child. Not one requiring the chief of police to jump on a plane and go overseas. Totally over the top. About what you'd expect from Thailand.

[BritManToo]

8 minutes ago, Jonathan Swift said:

So you'd be willing to offer up your 17 year old daughter or granddaughter for the enjoyment of tourists? 

Nobody ever listens to me, what my daughter's do and with whom is entirely their own choice.

[OILMAN13]

5 hours ago, peter zwart said:

legal or not. Any older person that wants to stick his w!llie in a minor should be locked up. Also men here that think they can have a normal relation with a girl thats 35 years younger..........what a joke. Get youself examined.

I think if it's legal then it's a matter of personal preference and good luck Not any of your business anyway. Why should you judge him?  

[Iamloki]

23 minutes ago, IamNoone88 said:

Legal or not, he is old enough to know better and for that he needs a wake up slap .. which he is now very likely get.

Old enough to know better? Sure... but apparently also young enough not to care...

[OILMAN13]

6 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Nobody ever listens to me, what my daughter's do and with whom is entirely their own choice.

I totally agree. My daughter is 36 and divorced already. Bummer too. I really like her former husband. We were all young once. Let them have the freedom to do what they want. If you raise your kids right, you know they will use birth control! 

[PJ71]

19 minutes ago, helloagain said:

But we are in 2023 but in thai years it's year ????. So not as easy as you say. 

It's very easy unless you're retarded.

[PJ71]

10 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Nobody ever listens to me, what my daughter's do and with whom is entirely their own choice.

Can i get her Line pls.

[impulse]

15 minutes ago, Spock said:

This hardly requires Big Joke personally going to Germany. Save the big guns for real abuse of minors, not this middle of the road stuff. This is just Thailand pretending to flex its muscles and get tough over things that don't really matter much.

Maybe he's hoping to call on someone else while he's in Germany...