Jingthing Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said: Rational People - just like Common Sense - there is not enough of them these days. There is no 'solution' because Hamas does not want a 'solution' - they want only one thing - and that is best summed up by their own PR statements that are echoed in the west by the extremely ignorant and stupid people protesting in support for them - 'From the River to the Sea'. Hamas wants all Jews removed and all the lands Israel controls turned into a new Palestine State. Israelis don't want a two state solution either and if you learn about the history of the conflict you would understand very well why that is a reasonable POV. Of course lip service for a two state solution has been the only game in town for several decades. Again, it's hard for a lot of people to process but it's really true. There is no long term solution in sight -- PERIOD. Sometimes reality happens to be dark and depressing. Edited December 23, 2023 by Jingthing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 1 hour ago, spidermike007 said: As you said, this did not happen in a vacuum. So, what led to the Hamas leadership? If a 2 state solution were found 25 years ago, do you think this would have happened? No. Sadly, the Israelis would not accept equality with the Palestinans. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Just now, Neeranam said: No. Sadly, the Israelis would not accept equality with the Palestinans. More of your trolling nonsense. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, Hawaiian said: No denial. Can I assume you do? assume what you want, you're just trolling. Your question is "do I eat garbage?". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Israelis don't want a two state solution either and if you learn about the history of the conflict you would understand very well why that is a reasonable POV. Of course lip service for a two state solution has been the only game in town for several decades. Again, it's hard for a lot of people to process but it's really true. There is no long term solution in sight -- PERIOD. Sometimes reality happens to be dark and depressing. Denying that Palestinians a state is reasonable only in the minds of fascists and religious nut jobs. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 9 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said: Rational People - just like Common Sense - there is not enough of them these days. There is no 'solution' because Hamas does not want a 'solution' - they want only one thing - and that is best summed up by their own PR statements that are echoed in the west by the extremely ignorant and stupid people protesting in support for them - 'From the River to the Sea'. Hamas wants all Jews removed and all the lands Israel controls turned into a new Palestine State. Hamas initially wanted to get their land. This was refused. Didn't Israel and the US support Hamas at the start, why was that? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff the Chef Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, Neeranam said: No. Sadly, the Israelis would not accept equality with the Palestinans. 2 minutes ago, Morch said: More of your trolling nonsense. This is the problem with this whole multi-threaded debate. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 22 minutes ago, Chris Daley said: Best war so far way better than Russia and Ukraine. *eats popcorn* It is hardly a war when only one side is dying in huge numbers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblybob Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Just now, Neeranam said: It is hardly a war when only one side is dying in huge numbers. It's not how you start, it's how you finish! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Denying that Palestinians a state is reasonable only in the minds of fascists and religious nut jobs. You're making up stuff again about what people post. It's a thing with you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, Neeranam said: Hamas initially wanted to get their land. This was refused. Didn't Israel and the US support Hamas at the start, why was that? Did they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 18 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Denying that Palestinians a state is reasonable only in the minds of fascists and religious nut jobs. That would be the super simple minded analysis of one of the most complicated conflicts in human history. I expect nothing more than that from you. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Neeranam said: Working tirelessly to post Israeli Propaganda and to get unbiased facts removed. Bit like Meta. No exposing the lies. Not that you know the difference between that and truth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Just now, Jingthing said: That would be the super simple minded analysis of one of the most complicated conflicts in human history. I expect nothing more than that from you. Not a mention of what I said, just a flame in response. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Just now, ozimoron said: Not a mention of what I said, just a flame in response. What you said was something that wasn't claimed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Just now, Bkk Brian said: No exposing the lies. Not that you know the difference between that and truth You need to post evidence to expose lies, not just flame the messenger. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 1 minute ago, ozimoron said: Not a mention of what I said, just a flame in response. Emotions can act as a veil, obstructing our view of reality. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 1 minute ago, ozimoron said: Not a mention of what I said, just a flame in response. Study the complexities of the conflict much more if you expect people to take you at all seriously. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Morch said: What you said was something that wasn't claimed. Nationality, in times of war, has the power to cloud our judgment and lead us into irrational thinking. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Morch Posted December 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2023 Just now, Neeranam said: Nationality, in times of war, has the power to cloud our judgment and lead us into irrational thinking. Judging from your comments on these topics, you're not one to preach. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Just now, Neeranam said: Nationality, in times of war, has the power to cloud our judgment and lead us into irrational thinking. I think you meant to say "nationalism"? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Just now, ozimoron said: You need to post evidence to expose lies, not just flame the messenger. 🤮no more food for you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Just now, Bkk Brian said: 🤮no more food for you QED 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Just now, ozimoron said: QED 🤢 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Neeranam said: One often overlooked aspect of the disproportionately high number of child deaths in Gaza is the tragic cycle of conflict. Previous military operations have led to the imprisonment, displacement, and loss of lives among the adult population. As a result, a significant percentage of the current population consists of children who have been left vulnerable and exposed to the harsh realities of conflict. The intergenerational impact of such violence has profound implications for the demographics and well-being of the people in the region. Somebody finds child deaths funny. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Morch Posted December 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Somebody finds child deaths funny. Maybe someone finds lifting quotes from the internet and presenting them as original being amusing. Stands for your post as well, coming to think about it. Edited December 23, 2023 by Morch 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 1 minute ago, ozimoron said: Somebody finds child deaths funny. I see that smiley face. True colours...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Does anyone know the percentage of women and kids in Hamas? They make up 2/3 of the total killed by Israel. Are the IDF really that bad at shooting? https://press.un.org/en/2023/sc15503.doc.htm 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thaibeachlovers Posted December 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2023 4 hours ago, ezzra said: Did anyone ever wondered what Hamas were hoping to gain from the 7th of October attack? did anyone really think that they can get anywhere with such act? of course not, but Iran, the arch enemy of Israel has pushed them to do something just like they push the Huthis to attack ships when they have nothing to do with the war in Gaza, the death toll in Gaza owes to the fact that the terrorists are hiding among the general population and used them as a human shields thinking that Israel will refrains from attacking civilians, well, they, and who's ever behind them were wrong, and as long as the Hamas still holding Israeli hostages and rockets launching in to Israel, the war will continue with many more babies and adults Palestinians, among them the leadership of Hamas will die... Did anyone ever wondered what Hamas were hoping to gain from the 7th of October attack? Prior to October 7 the whole world ignored the atrocities israel was committing in the West Bank and the vile blockade of Gaza. Well they are not ignoring them now and much of the world is against israel. I'd say that is what they were hoping to gain. Probably succeeded more than they expected because of the brutality of the israeli response. 1 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, Morch said: Maybe someone finds lifting quotes from the internet and presenting them as original being amusing. So, you've accused me of lying, antisemitic posts, writing nonsense, and now plagiarism. Stop trolling with false accusations. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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