Popular Post Social Media Posted January 24, 2024 Popular Post Posted January 24, 2024 The intricate relationship between UNRWA aid and Hamas in Gaza has come under scrutiny, shedding light on the challenges and consequences of international humanitarian assistance in conflict zones. The recent discovery of a Hamas tunnel adorned with a UNRWA logo has sparked concerns about the potential misuse of aid for nefarious purposes. Delving into the dynamics of this complex situation, it becomes apparent that the entwined relationship between UNRWA and Hamas has far-reaching implications. Aid as a Double-Edged Sword: Gaza heavily relies on international aid, making it a critical lifeline for the region. Various organizations, including UNRWA, play a pivotal role in providing essential support. However, the misuse of aid for terror-related activities by Hamas has raised serious questions about the effectiveness of aid delivery mechanisms. The discovery of Hamas utilizing aid-funded infrastructure for terror purposes underscores the need for a closer examination of how assistance reaches its intended recipients. Hamas' Influence on UNRWA: Hamas took control of Gaza in 2007, creating a challenging environment for humanitarian organizations operating in the region. UNRWA, being a significant contributor to Gaza's functioning, faces vulnerability due to its operational dependence on local authorities, inevitably aligning with Hamas. Reports suggest that a substantial number of UNRWA employees in Gaza may have affiliations with or support for Hamas, raising concerns about the agency's impartiality. Theft and Diversion of Aid: The endemic issue of aid theft and diversion to Hamas is not a recent development. Over the years, instances of Hamas seizing aid shipments have been reported, with limited consequences for the group. The diversion of resources intended for vulnerable populations to support terrorism creates a moral and ethical dilemma for aid organizations, especially UNRWA. The challenge lies in distinguishing between aiding civilians in need and inadvertently supporting a designated terrorist organization. Education and Indoctrination: UNRWA's extensive responsibilities in Gaza include education, constituting a significant portion of its budget. However, concerns have been raised about the curriculum used in UNRWA-operated schools, which allegedly perpetuates hatred and glorifies violence. Reports indicate that teachers and staff associated with UNRWA have publicly celebrated terrorist attacks, highlighting potential indoctrination within the educational system. The Role of International Agencies: The complicity of international agencies in addressing Hamas-related issues has become a focal point of discussion. Despite evidence of Hamas atrocities, some UN agencies, such as UN Women, UNICEF, and the World Health Organization, have been criticized for their delayed or inadequate condemnation of Hamas. This behavior not only raises questions about the agencies' commitment to their stated missions but also potentially incentivizes further acts of terrorism. Conclusion: The intricate interplay between UNRWA aid and Hamas in Gaza presents a multifaceted challenge for the international community. Balancing the dire humanitarian needs of the population with the risk of aiding a designated terrorist organization requires a nuanced approach. Addressing the issues of aid diversion, potential Hamas influence within UNRWA, and the content of educational materials becomes paramount to ensure that international assistance serves its intended purpose without inadvertently fueling conflict. As the world grapples with the complexities of providing aid in conflict zones, a careful reevaluation of strategies and increased transparency is essential to mitigate the unintended consequences of humanitarian efforts. 25.01.24 Source 2 1
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted January 24, 2024 Popular Post Posted January 24, 2024 UNRWA needs serious investigation and overhauled from the ground up, this is the largest UN agency in Gaza totally infiltrated by Hamas. House Republicans demand testimony from head of UNRWA over Hamas aid allegations In total, his administration has provided more than $730 million in US taxpayer money to the organization since January 2021, which provides assistance in the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip. Biden, 81, also announced another tranche of $100 million in aid to UNRWA last October. “The days of UNWRA underwriting Palestinian grievance and abetting the diversion of humanitarian aid to terrorist support are over,” Issa told The Post in a statement Tuesday. “We now know that UNWRA is riddled with terrorist sympathizers, their facilities have stored rockets to use against civilians and their schools have relentlessly taught hatred of the Israeli people.” https://nypost.com/2024/01/16/news/house-gop-demands-testimony-unrwa-head-for-hamas-aid-allegations/ Teachers' messages in UN agency's Telegram channel glorified Hamas massacre, investigation finds A Telegram channel for United Nation Nations Relief and Works Agency teachers in Gaza with over 3,000 members contains messages glorifying the Hamas massacre of Oct. 7 and encouraging the execution of Israeli hostages, an investigation by Geneva-based human rights NGO UN Watch has found. “This is the motherlode of UNRWA teachers’ incitement to jihadi terrorism,” said Hillel Neuer, executive director of UN Watch. https://nationalpost.com/news/world/israel-middle-east/messages-un-agency-telegram-channel-teachers-glorified-hamas-massacre 1 2
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted January 24, 2024 Popular Post Posted January 24, 2024 At the UN Q: Does UNRWA have a role in post-war Gaza? UN: I believe UNRWA plays a critical role in supporting many Palestinians on education, on health care, and other services. UNRWA plays a stabilizing role in the region. Q: When you were asked about the UN Watch exposure of thousands of comments by UNRWA employees, you pooh-poohed it. UN: I also said, if you look at the transcript, that UNRWA takes these things seriously. I was talking to [commissioner general] Philippe Lazzarini about an hour ago. They take these things very seriously. Q: What does that mean? Is there an investigation into this? Because now names and numbers are being [released]... UN: Whenever they’re able to, they do look into it. They take disciplinary action when needed, and when things are proven. 1 2
Bkk Brian Posted January 24, 2024 Posted January 24, 2024 Years ago............ Matthias Schmale, UNRWA Gaza director, 2017-2021: “Many people told me through my four years, there's tunnels everywhere and it's a safe assumption.” https://www.npr.org/2021/11/18/1056254276/gaza-united-nations-schmale-palestinians-israel Last week........ Q: Given the UN's big role in Gaza, UNRWA, has there ever been any indication to the UN that tunnels are being built under the city? UN: Not to us. I mean... it seems to me that all this infrastructure was built in a highly secretive way. I mean, I see it just as an observer... To think that the UN had any understanding of what was… any information about those operations, I think, is... No is clearly the answer to that. 2
Popular Post Jeff the Chef Posted January 24, 2024 Popular Post Posted January 24, 2024 Maybe forget about a 2 State solution and opt for a 1 State solution and have joint Israeli and Palestinian schools where both sides are taught together by Israeli/Palestinian teachers working together, I wonder how that would work. 1 1 3
Popular Post sirineou Posted January 24, 2024 Popular Post Posted January 24, 2024 Quote How can the war between Israel and Hamas ever end when so many schools in Gaza - run by a UN agency backed by our millions - teach children to hate Jews? That's a loaded title if I ever heard one. 2 6 2
Jeff the Chef Posted January 25, 2024 Posted January 25, 2024 25 minutes ago, sirineou said: That's a loaded title if I ever heard one. The Daily Mail, say no more, nudge nudge, wink wink, 1
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted January 25, 2024 Popular Post Posted January 25, 2024 3 hours ago, Jeff the Chef said: Maybe forget about a 2 State solution and opt for a 1 State solution and have joint Israeli and Palestinian schools where both sides are taught together by Israeli/Palestinian teachers working together, I wonder how that would work. Problem with your post, the Palestinian teachers can also be Hamas terrorists as their main line of career. Official letters from the the Hamas’ military wing personally delivered and addressed to Dr. Muhammad Hamdan, Head of the Directorate of Education and Teaching in Gaza. These are requests for teachers to be excused due to their necessity for the Hamas terrorist organization. There are terrorists in Gaza that work as teachers on their free time: 2 1
Hanaguma Posted January 25, 2024 Posted January 25, 2024 People have been talking about this for years. A group called MEMRI has been showing the kind of filth propaganda that is being shoved down childrens' throats in Palestine for years. No wonder that younger Palestinians resoundingly reject a "two state solution"- Galllup puts support for it at just 16%. They prefer a one state solution- from the river to the sea. 1 1
Neeranam Posted January 25, 2024 Posted January 25, 2024 4 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: People have been talking about this for years. A group called MEMRI has been showing the kind of filth propaganda that is being shoved down childrens' throats in Palestine for years. No wonder that younger Palestinians resoundingly reject a "two state solution"- Galllup puts support for it at just 16%. They prefer a one state solution- from the river to the sea. Nonsense. I've posted recently, the reasons why young Palestinians don't want anything to do with Israel. Doesn't look like it will change soon. 2 1
Hanaguma Posted January 25, 2024 Posted January 25, 2024 2 minutes ago, Neeranam said: Nonsense. I've posted recently, the reasons why young Palestinians don't want anything to do with Israel. Doesn't look like it will change soon. Not nonsense, Gallup. https://news.gallup.com/poll/512828/palestinians-lack-faith-biden-two-state-solution.aspx?utm_source=google&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=syndication#:~:text=Generational Divide on the Two,Palestinians aged 46 and older. 1
Popular Post Neeranam Posted January 25, 2024 Popular Post Posted January 25, 2024 14 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: Not nonsense, Gallup. https://news.gallup.com/poll/512828/palestinians-lack-faith-biden-two-state-solution.aspx?utm_source=google&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=syndication#:~:text=Generational Divide on the Two,Palestinians aged 46 and older. I didn't meant the number but the reasons. 24 minutes ago, Hanaguma said: A group called MEMRI has been showing the kind of filth propaganda that is being shoved down childrens' throats in Palestine for years. No wonder that younger Palestinians resoundingly reject a "two state solution" The want for a one-state solution among young Palestinians is rooted in historical grievances and realities shaped by the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Many young Palestinians have grown up amidst hardships of occupation, witnessing the displacement of their families, restrictions on their daily lives, and the pervasive impact of the Israeli military presence. The ongoing construction of Israeli settlements in the West Bank, coupled with the separation barrier, has further deepened feelings of marginalization. The cycle of violence and the perceived injustices committed by the Israeli government, such as military operations in Gaza and other repressive measures, have fueled a sense of injustice and a desire for a political arrangement that ensures equal rights for all in the region. 1 1 1 1
Jeff the Chef Posted January 25, 2024 Posted January 25, 2024 3 hours ago, Bkk Brian said: Problem with your post, the Palestinian teachers can also be Hamas terrorists as their main line of career. Official letters from the the Hamas’ military wing personally delivered and addressed to Dr. Muhammad Hamdan, Head of the Directorate of Education and Teaching in Gaza. These are requests for teachers to be excused due to their necessity for the Hamas terrorist organization. There are terrorists in Gaza that work as teachers on their free time: So I'll take that as a no from you, as if I expected anything different. 1
Popular Post Jingthing Posted January 25, 2024 Popular Post Posted January 25, 2024 7 hours ago, Jeff the Chef said: Maybe forget about a 2 State solution and opt for a 1 State solution and have joint Israeli and Palestinian schools where both sides are taught together by Israeli/Palestinian teachers working together, I wonder how that would work. Thanks for that bulletin from Cloud Cuckoo Land. Sorry, dude, Israel is not going to commit suicide. That's what a one state solution does. 1 2
Jingthing Posted January 25, 2024 Posted January 25, 2024 The Israel demonizing River to the Sea brigade expects people to consider the U.N. a credible, ethical, and objective source on the conflict. 2
Morch Posted January 25, 2024 Posted January 25, 2024 7 hours ago, Jeff the Chef said: Maybe forget about a 2 State solution and opt for a 1 State solution and have joint Israeli and Palestinian schools where both sides are taught together by Israeli/Palestinian teachers working together, I wonder how that would work. Maybe post some nonsense, that would make everything better. 1 1
Morch Posted January 25, 2024 Posted January 25, 2024 2 hours ago, Neeranam said: Nonsense. I've posted recently, the reasons why young Palestinians don't want anything to do with Israel. Doesn't look like it will change soon. Exactly, you posted nonsense. 2 1
Popular Post ozimoron Posted January 25, 2024 Popular Post Posted January 25, 2024 How can the war ever end when Israel refuses to contemplate a Palestinian state? Under ANY circumstances. 1 3 1
Jeff the Chef Posted January 25, 2024 Posted January 25, 2024 5 minutes ago, Jingthing said: The Israel demonizing River to the Sea brigade expect people to consider the U.N. a credible, ethical, and objective source on the conflict. Getting your ducks lined up already, every man and his dog knows that Israel is as pure as the driven snow. Anchors away. 1
Popular Post ozimoron Posted January 25, 2024 Popular Post Posted January 25, 2024 4 minutes ago, Jingthing said: The Israel demonizing River to the Sea brigade expect people to consider the U.N. a credible, ethical, and objective source on the conflict. Certainly nobody in the Israeli government ever speaks the truth. Never wanting a Palestinian state and working very hard to thwart any possibility of one. 2 1
Popular Post Morch Posted January 25, 2024 Popular Post Posted January 25, 2024 1 hour ago, Neeranam said: I didn't meant the number but the reasons. The want for a one-state solution among young Palestinians is rooted in historical grievances and realities shaped by the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Many young Palestinians have grown up amidst hardships of occupation, witnessing the displacement of their families, restrictions on their daily lives, and the pervasive impact of the Israeli military presence. The ongoing construction of Israeli settlements in the West Bank, coupled with the separation barrier, has further deepened feelings of marginalization. The cycle of violence and the perceived injustices committed by the Israeli government, such as military operations in Gaza and other repressive measures, have fueled a sense of injustice and a desire for a political arrangement that ensures equal rights for all in the region. More copy/pasted stuff. Nothing in Palestinian politics, society and culture indicates that what they after, or what they can manage if it comes about would be anywhere near the utopian nonsense spewed on these forums. 1 3 2
Morch Posted January 25, 2024 Posted January 25, 2024 1 minute ago, ozimoron said: Certainly nobody in the Israeli government ever speaks the truth. Never wanting a Palestinian state and working very hard to thwart any possibility of one. @ozimoron The only thing certain is you making yet another one of your strong claims, backed by next to nothing.
Popular Post Morch Posted January 25, 2024 Popular Post Posted January 25, 2024 3 minutes ago, ozimoron said: How can the war ever end when Israel refuses to contemplate a Palestinian state? Under ANY circumstances. @ozimoron Kinda 'forgetting' all them times Palestinians refused a Palestinian State. 2 1
Jingthing Posted January 25, 2024 Posted January 25, 2024 8 minutes ago, ozimoron said: How can the war ever end when Israel refuses to contemplate a Palestinian state? Under ANY circumstances. I don't know that but perhaps it's time that you face the reality that strong majorities on BOTH sides do not support a two state solution and also that the Hamas barbaric action on October 7 made the prospect of that even more remote. 1 1
Jingthing Posted January 25, 2024 Posted January 25, 2024 6 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said: Getting your ducks lined up already, every man and his dog knows that Israel is as pure as the driven snow. Anchors away. I never said such a thing, so enjoy your trolling. 1
Jeff the Chef Posted January 25, 2024 Posted January 25, 2024 12 minutes ago, Jingthing said: The Israel demonizing River to the Sea brigade expect people to consider the U.N. a credible, ethical, and objective source on the conflict. 2 minutes ago, Jingthing said: I never said such a thing, so enjoy your trolling. 1
Brickleberry Posted January 25, 2024 Posted January 25, 2024 Interesting how this all focuses on the UN. The UNWRA is indeed a UN agency, however there are some important caveats to add. The people who work in this organization are all Palestinian refugees. It is not an international agency with staff from all over the world, or even with staff from the UN. Is it surprising that Palestinian refugees may support Hamas after everything that has happened? This is not to say it is correct, it is obviously a terrible thing to do. Understanding why something is happening does not equate to saying it is ok to do. It is undeniable that hatred is indeed taught in Palestinian schools, but it is also evident that Israel teaches the same in its schools. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/aug/07/israeli-school-racism-claim Quote Nurit Peled-Elhanan of Hebrew University says textbooks depict Palestinians as 'terrorists, refugees and primitive farmers' https://vermontdailychronicle.com/__trashed-4/ Quote Do Israeli grade school texts advocate hate against Arabs? They do, according to Israeli author, Nurit Peled-Elhanen, who wrote Palestine in Israeli Schoolbooks, Ideology and Propaganda in Education 1
Jingthing Posted January 25, 2024 Posted January 25, 2024 6 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said: Do you seriously not know the difference between not realizing that the UN is very biased against Israel (which is an obvious fact) and thinking that Israel can do no wrong (which of course I have never thought)? Amazing! 1
Neeranam Posted January 25, 2024 Posted January 25, 2024 13 minutes ago, Morch said: More copy/pasted stuff. Nothing in Palestinian politics, society and culture indicates that what they after, or what they can manage if it comes about would be anywhere near the utopian nonsense spewed on these forums. If you continue to falsely accuse me of copying stuff, you're back on ignore. It's well out of order. 2
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