15 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Taylor Swift, an intelligent, talented, outspoken woman who stands up for herself and what she believes in.

 

Of course the rightwing hate her, and of course they retreat to their alternative conspiracy universe for comfort.

 

It’s the blanket under which they hide from their own inadequacies.

 

Bless ‘em, they can’t keep up.

 

 

They fear intelligent women

59 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

They aren't billionaires with huge popularity among young people. Don't anybody try to tell me kid rock is popular among gen Z/

So your point is? I should find a equally young popular philanthropic star that pushes the Republican talking points for you ?

You don't need me you have the TV evangelical parasites sorry priests on your side I feel there morality fits in perfectly with your leader

5 minutes ago, Dave0206 said:

So your point is? I should find a equally young popular philanthropic star that pushes the Republican talking points for you ?

You don't need me you have the TV evangelical parasites sorry priests on your side I feel there morality fits in perfectly with your leader

 

Well that would be good for Trump. The TV evangelists are in the tank for Trump so I wouldn't bother looking there. I don't know why he doesn't just play worship piano at his rallies, he won't find a young rock star.

 

Here's a non exhaustive list of musicians who oppose Trump. Presumably Taylor Swift should be on this list.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musicians_who_oppose_Donald_Trump's_use_of_their_music

5 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

Well that would be good for Trump. The TV evangelists are in the tank for Trump so I wouldn't bother looking there. I don't know why he doesn't just play worship piano at his rallies, he won't find a young rock star.

 

Here's a non exhaustive list of musicians who oppose Trump. Presumably Taylor Swift should be on this list.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musicians_who_oppose_Donald_Trump's_use_of_their_music

He could always get forgatio blow the rapper ( that is a kind description) who rapped with Marjorie Taylor Green on a throne so you can tell its high class

It's even weirder and more bizarre than you think.

 

A Talking Head on far whackadoodle OANN said, "I've read her lyrics, I've seen her onstage; I think it's witchcraft"

 

A Talking Head on another far right whackadoole nerwork---Newsmax--- said, "It look like idol worship, and you know what the Bible says about false idols" (Apparently he forgot his fellow Talibangicals produced a video, which trump re-Tweeted, that begins, "On 14 June 1946 god sent [trump] to fix his paradise on Earth".......)

 

Fox had several Talking Heads say that entertainers should stay out of politics. They seem to have forgotten that Fox has had guests like Kid Rock and Ted Nugent, who proclaim their eternal love for trump. Besides, nobody on Fox is an actual journalist. They're all entertainers, and they all support trump. SO non-journalts are they that in a court proceeding, Tucker Carlson's (now gone from Fox) lawyer actually said "Nobody should believe what Tucker says". IN other words, Tucker, like all Fox Talking Heads, is a performance artist.

 

Something I had written early upset a snowflake, and was subsequently removed, but frankly, I underestimated the extent of trumpian cult insanity.

13 hours ago, ALLSEEINGEYE said:

The MAGA cult will use anything they can to try to divert attention and focus away from where it really should be, A criminal con man cult leader and an immoral lying party with no platform other than fear, hate and lies. Wake up humans!!!! 

That's really taking the mickey. Have you not seen Biden's election platform which apparently consists of "hate Trump" messages? IMO if not for Trump, Biden would have little to talk about, considering his lack of success as POTUS.

13 hours ago, Pouatchee said:

 

need i explain the differences in semantics between sports as entertaining/entertainment and the music/cinematographic as an entertainment industry? surely you can figure that out by yourself

I don't get the point that you are trying to make. Commercial sport is as much an entertainment industry as music is, no matter how much one tries to say "it's different".

9 hours ago, Walker88 said:

Would it be any sillier for people to follow the ideological leanings of an extremely successful, highly intelligent, Grammy-winning business savant, than a willfully ignorant, 6 times bankrupt, convicted sex offender, convicted charity fraudster, convicted bank and insurance fraudster, recipient of 91 felony indictments, Game Show host, born with a silver spoon in his mouth who inherited his wealth but claims to be "self-made"?

 

The former makes people happy, while the fatter latter makes people violent---and according to this bizarre conspiracy theory, as brain addled as him.

I have to guess, but I assume you are talking about a singer who made it out of thousands of wannabe music stars because she has good genes, but is still just a musician.

Why would anyone take political advice from a musician?

 

As usual you attack Trump for what he is, and ignore why many, many millions of adult Americans chose him as POTUS instead of her.

Have you ever asked yourself WHY so many adult Americans prefer him, DESPITE his many failings, over your hero Biden?

9 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

My prediction is that Taylor Swift will be President of the United States in 20 years, barring disaster.

She'd have to be daft to take that job on, and she ain't daft.

7 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

The only ones putting politics in this Super Bowl are FOX News and MAGA politicians whining about Taylor Swift.

 

Are you going to condemn them? Please do, so we can repost when Trump inevitably complains about Taylor Swift.

Seems to me that you and few of your pals are also putting politics into it, or don't you count?

6 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

What are you talking about?

One suspects that someone doesn't know as much as someone purports to know.

4 hours ago, Dave0206 said:

She has spread her successful tour income with so many people in a way that is unheard of so for me she is allowed a pedestal to say what her views are on any subject she likes. 

Also as a young woman surely she is entitled to fight for her rights that's democracy or is this only allowed if kid rock or Joe rogan speaks 🤔 

She has the same rights as any other citizen in a country with free speech to say whatever she likes, within the law, and everyone else has the right to accept or reject what she says. If one doesn't like to be criticized for what one says in a public forum, one shouldn't say anything publicly in the first place.

 

However, if one wants to use their popularity to talk politics, one can hardly complain if they get attacked for doing so. The saying about heat and kitchens is always applicable when it comes to politics.

 

 

Edited January 31, 20242 yr by thaibeachlovers

25 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

That's really taking the mickey. Have you not seen Biden's election platform which apparently consists of "hate Trump" messages? IMO if not for Trump, Biden would have little to talk about, considering his lack of success as POTUS.

The economy is great, the stock market is up, inflation is down.

 

Just because you say something, doesn't mean it's true.

10 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

The economy is great, the stock market is up, inflation is down.

 

Just because you say something, doesn't mean it's true.

and likewise with yourself, as I have pointed out to you on occassion.

 

 

Edited January 31, 20242 yr by thaibeachlovers

42 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I have to guess, but I assume you are talking about a singer who made it out of thousands of wannabe music stars because she has good genes, but is still just a musician.

Why would anyone take political advice from a musician?

 

As usual you attack Trump for what he is, and ignore why many, many millions of adult Americans chose him as POTUS instead of her.

Have you ever asked yourself WHY so many adult Americans prefer him, DESPITE his many failings, over your hero Biden?

I have offered my view as to why so many losers Americans chose trump in 2016...enough to win the anachronism called the Electoral College, but not enough to win in 2020.

 

I would repeat the 'why' here, but it would be reported and removed.

 

I can say his base is largely QAnon types (who are batsh!t crazy and ~25-30% of all Americans), Incels, white supremacists, fanatical (supposed) Christians, non-college educated old white men, and Neo Nazis, such as those who marched in Charlottesville chanting "Jews will not replace us". It is unlikely anyone from those groups is a Biden supporter, except maybe some non-college older males. Since trump captures all of those, that kind of explains his % of support.

 

I appreciate that not everyone was born with above average intellect, common sense and rationality. Average means average. trump has captured virtually all of the below average, and precious little of the demographic that is of above average intelligence, successful in life, well-educated, and with a clear understanding of democracy and US ideals.

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

That's really taking the mickey. Have you not seen Biden's election platform which apparently consists of "hate Trump" messages? IMO if not for Trump, Biden would have little to talk about, considering his lack of success as POTUS.

Because you don't understand Biden's message doesn't mean you are correct.

 

Biden's message is the US is a democracy and must remain so. trump is the anti-thesis of democracy, a whiny crybaby loser who was willing to destroy 245 years of American democracy just because he isn't strong enough to accept defeat.

 

If one's opponent is a convicted criminal, a pathological liar, an insurrectionist who tried to overthrow the government, then he owes him zero respect and is obligated to point out trump's evil and anti-American nature.

 

As for Biden...let's see...he took trump's carnage (6.8% UE and Recession) and has:

 

---presided over the creation of more jobs than any POTUS ever

---has the US growing faster than any other major industrial nation

---got a bipartisan infrastructure Bill passed that will rebuild bridges, roads, ATC, commo

---Got a cap on many prescription drugs, such as $35/month on insulin vs $600/month before

---Got the Chips Act passed.

---Rebuilt NATO

 

That Biden success dwarfs anything the failure trump did.

7 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

I have offered my view as to why so many losers Americans chose trump in 2016...enough to win the anachronism called the Electoral College, but not enough to win in 2020.

 

I would repeat the 'why' here, but it would be reported and removed.

 

I can say his base is largely QAnon types (who are batsh!t crazy and ~25-30% of all Americans), Incels, white supremacists, fanatical (supposed) Christians, non-college educated old white men, and Neo Nazis, such as those who marched in Charlottesville chanting "Jews will not replace us". It is unlikely anyone from those groups is a Biden supporter, except maybe some non-college older males. Since trump captures all of those, that kind of explains his % of support.

 

I appreciate that not everyone was born with above average intellect, common sense and rationality. Average means average. trump has captured virtually all of the below average, and precious little of the demographic that is of above average intelligence, successful in life, well-educated, and with a clear understanding of democracy and US ideals.

It must be wonderful to have such a black and white view of the world and an overwhelming opinion that one is superior to everyone that disagrees with one.

 

Most of the rest of the humans on the planet live in the gray zone.

 

IMO you apparently overlook or choose to overlook that millions of Americans don't choose Trump because he is a flawed human being, but because they despise Washington and all that reside therein, and Trump is a symbol of resistance to Washington. Whether he is or is not makes no difference to the masses that yearn for someone to clean up Washington.

So far he's the only one that is not a creature of Washington that has been able to put himself up as a champion of the Washington haters.

 

If the establishment wanted Trump to be gone they'd clean up Washington themselves, but they will likely never do that.

 

 

10 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

Because you don't understand Biden's message doesn't mean you are correct.

 

Biden's message is the US is a democracy and must remain so.

I understand Biden's message 100%. I just don't believe it. IMO he is as big a crook as ever sat in congress, and just says whatever he thinks will get him re elected.

14 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

That Biden success dwarfs anything the failure trump did.

Anyone that refuses to acknowledge any successes that Trump had isn't worth debating with. Bye.

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

and likewise with yourself, as I have pointed out to you on occassion.

 

 

Your man Trump had a net loss of jobs during his administration, the first president to lose jobs since Herbert Hoover.

8 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Anyone that refuses to acknowledge any successes that Trump had isn't worth debating with. Bye.

You are not debating with @walker88, he is posting facts, and you are posting wild claims and fantasies.

 

Meanwhile, Taylor Swift is going to the Super Bowl!

Edited January 31, 20242 yr by Danderman123

3 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Your man Trump had a net loss of jobs during his administration, the first president to lose jobs since Herbert Hoover.

He also had a covid epidemic. Something you and your pals always forget to mention.

2 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

You are not debating with @walker88, he is posting facts, and you are posting wild claims and fantasies.

 

Meanwhile, Taylor Swift is going to the Super Bowl!

More like nasty rants against Trump supporters than facts.

12 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

He also had a covid epidemic. Something you and your pals always forget to mention.

You mean the Covid that Trump said would go away Real Soon Now, so he didn't prepare for the pandemic?

 

"You know, a lot of people think that goes away in April with the heat — as the heat comes in. Typically, that will go away in April."

 

Do you that maybe if Trump had prepared the nation for Covid, so many people wouldn't have lost their  jobs?

 

 

13 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

More like nasty rants against Trump supporters than facts.

This is a nasty rant against Trump supporters?

 

"As for Biden...let's see...he took trump's carnage (6.8% UE and Recession) and has:

 

---presided over the creation of more jobs than any POTUS ever

---has the US growing faster than any other major industrial nation

---got a bipartisan infrastructure Bill passed that will rebuild bridges, roads, ATC, commo

---Got a cap on many prescription drugs, such as $35/month on insulin vs $600/month before

---Got the Chips Act passed.

---Rebuilt NATO

 

That Biden success dwarfs anything the failure trump did."

 

Sounds like facts to me.

8 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

This is a nasty rant against Trump supporters?

 

"As for Biden...let's see...he took trump's carnage (6.8% UE and Recession) and has:

 

---presided over the creation of more jobs than any POTUS ever

---has the US growing faster than any other major industrial nation

---got a bipartisan infrastructure Bill passed that will rebuild bridges, roads, ATC, commo

---Got a cap on many prescription drugs, such as $35/month on insulin vs $600/month before

---Got the Chips Act passed.

---Rebuilt NATO

 

That Biden success dwarfs anything the failure trump did."

 

Sounds like facts to me.

Explain where the facts in this rant are:

 

59 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

I can say his base is largely QAnon types (who are batsh!t crazy and ~25-30% of all Americans), Incels, white supremacists, fanatical (supposed) Christians, non-college educated old white men, and Neo Nazis, such as those who marched in Charlottesville chanting "Jews will not replace us". It is unlikely anyone from those groups is a Biden supporter, except maybe some non-college older males. Since trump captures all of those, that kind of explains his % of support.

 

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

It must be wonderful to have such a black and white view of the world and an overwhelming opinion that one is superior to everyone that disagrees with one.

 

 

 

 

It is. Kipling might call it the Smart Man's Burden. I won the Birth Lottery. I didn't deserve it, but it is a fact. If I deny it, I'm being dishonest.

 

Those people who "despise Washington" for the most part, are ignorant losers. They are the kind of people who say, "Keep govt out of my Medicare".

 

They fail to understand the job of govt, but would be the first to moan and whine if govt let them down. Michael Lewis wrote about govt in one of his well-research books. Many people fail to understand the billions of things anonymous govt workers do to keep things in order. There is zero market for some things govt does, so it falls on govt to do them. Things like food safety, testings new drugs, building Interstate highways, even defense...idiots call it Socialism, but we all benefit from it.

 

Right wing hate taxes, but love the $800 billion/year military. The left wing doesn't mind taxes, but mostly on the rich, and love social programs. I'm rich, so I pay a lot in taxes, but I appreciate I am protected from bad food or dangerous drugs or attack from abroad by entities funded by my taxes. I also appreciate that folks who cannot make it on their own or suffer a malady get help from the govt. I guess I'm an old school moderate liberal. I was not in favor of the trump-Repub tax cut, because I knew it would only explode the deficit. I know it would create zero jobs, because US companies had already borrowed to the hilt under ZIRP, so the lower tax rate on repatriated profits would do nothing except lead to higher bonuses.

 

I despise trump for many reasons, which are obvious to anyone with brains. It amazes me that anyone with an IQ above a turnip could think he is anything other than a self-serving, psychopathic POS. In fact, I think the turnip IQs are trump's limit of support.

Edited January 31, 20242 yr by Walker88

1 minute ago, Walker88 said:

I despise trump for many reasons, whch are obvious to anyone with brains. It amazes me that anyone with an IQ above a turnip could think he is anything other than a self-serving, psychopathic POS.

As I explained, people hate Washington so much they will support Trump against anyone from the Washington "swamp". If it was a talking donkey that said "I hate Washington" they'd likely vote for the donkey.

IMO even a self-serving, psychopathic POS is better than Biden/ Harrris, especially one that didn't start any wars.

I wonder if Taylor Swift will be in the Super Bowl halftime show? Or sing the National Anthem?

This is in the same category as that other guy associating candy ads with sex.