Taylor Swift Caught in Crosshairs of Bizarre MAGA Conspiracy Theory

[Walker88]

45 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

More like nasty rants against Trump supporters than facts.

Have you ever looked at a trump rally?

 

Half the signs are trump, as if he's the Second Coming, and the other half are crazy Talibangicals or guys carying "Q" signs or "Where One Go, We All Go", which is QAnon insanity.

 

(By the way, a "Q" clearance is merely a Dept of Energy clearance that allow someone to see classified docs related to nuclear issues. The guy who is Q merely chose that letter out of ignorance.)

 

trump owns the entire Q demo. He own the Incel demo. He own the white supremacist demo. He own the racist demo. He owns the Neo Nazi demo. He owns the fascist demo. He own the non-college fat old white guy demo. That accounts for about 99.9% of his support. Not exactly good people.

 

trump owns the people who are so stupid they fall for his lies about 'stolen election', and are so prone to violence they engaged in the insurrection and terrorist attack on the Capitol.

 

The jailed insurrectionists are not 'hostages' or 'political prisoners'. They are terrorists.

[thaibeachlovers]

40 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

Have you ever looked at a trump rally?

 

Half the signs are trump, as if he's the Second Coming, and the other half are crazy Talibangicals or guys carying "Q" signs or "Where One Go, We All Go", which is QAnon insanity.

 

(By the way, a "Q" clearance is merely a Dept of Energy clearance that allow someone to see classified docs related to nuclear issues. The guy who is Q merely chose that letter out of ignorance.)

 

trump owns the entire Q demo. He own the Incel demo. He own the white supremacist demo. He own the racist demo. He owns the Neo Nazi demo. He owns the fascist demo. He own the non-college fat old white guy demo. That accounts for about 99.9% of his support. Not exactly good people.

 

trump owns the people who are so stupid they fall for his lies about 'stolen election', and are so prone to violence they engaged in the insurrection and terrorist attack on the Capitol.

 

The jailed insurrectionists are not 'hostages' or 'political prisoners'. They are terrorists.

LOL. You still ignore the reasons as to why they support Trump. You can carry on all day about how demented they are, but the reasons won't change as long as people like Biden are POTUS.

 

Next.

[bamnutsak]

1 hour ago, Danderman123 said:

I wonder if Taylor Swift will be in the Super Bowl halftime show? Or sing the National Anthem?

 

Reba McEntire is singing the national anthem. There is some chatter, now that it is confirmed that Ms. Swift can make it to Las Vegas after her last show in Tokyo, and before her next show in Melbourne, that they might sing it together. That would be crazy. The current line is 89.5 seconds.😃

 

Usher is headlining the halftime show, and there will be guests but those haven't been announced AFAIK.

 

 

 

The Right-Wing Conservative Echo Chamber is ramping up the culture war because they don't want to talk about issues, especially the right to choose, and their candidate is a proven loser.

 

Deflection and distraction. 

 

 

Why they've taken up this battle with Taylor Swift, and by extension the NFL and Women, is difficult to understand unless they only want aggrieved white, male voters. They just can't help stepping on rakes.

 

 

 

 

 

[Tug]

20 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

LOL. You still ignore the reasons as to why they support Trump. You can carry on all day about how demented they are, but the reasons won't change as long as people like Biden are POTUS.

 

Next.

Yea that Biden and that horrible GDP and the outstanding stock market and the tamping down inflation oh the horrors eegads I almost forgot the rebirth of nato with new top tier members oh that’s just terrible ehh?or that horrible infrastructure the horrors!!!and let’s not forget the utter humiliation of one Putin ……like Biden ehh?? You gotta be kidding NEXT!!

[Cory1848]

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Why would anyone take political advice from a musician?

 

Why would anyone take political advice from a TV game show host/B-movie actor/peanut farmer? I don’t think that Taylor Swift is so much offering political advice as simply on occasion voicing her opinion, and from the clips I’ve seen, she’s quite sincere. She has as much right to do that as you do; in fact, if America is truly the citizens’ republic that it purports to be, one can argue that she has a duty to call out flaws in her leaders, and to engage in debate. And if she just happens to have a bigger megaphone than you do, deal with it ...

[JonnyF]

19 hours ago, placeholder said:

Apparently, at least one former candidate for the Republican Presidential nomination does:

 

https://www.newsweek.com/taylor-swift-republicans-vivek-ramaswamy-travis-kelce-joe-biden-2024-election-1865346

 

And then there's Jesse Waters proposing a Pentagon conspiracy

Jesse Watters Floats Goofy Right-Wing Theory About Taylor Swift: 'That's Real'

“Well, around four years ago, the Pentagon psychological operations unit floated turning Taylor Swift into an asset during a NATO meeting. What kind of asset? A PSYOP for combating online misinformation.”

https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/jesse-watters-floats-goofy-wing-161648717.htmlANd 

 

And there's a whole host of others

 

 

 

You seem to be confusing someone who cares themselves what Taylor Swift thinks, with someone who recognizes that other people (low IQ Dem voters) care what Taylor Swift thinks.  

[JonnyF]

14 hours ago, Walker88 said:

But really, who cares what TV Talking Heads think? If voters are really looking at Hannity, Watters, Carlson and comedy channels like Newsmax and OANN for political guidance, they really deserve 4 years of trumpian Recession, high unemployment, the end of democracy, and a fascist state whose primary concern is worshiping the Dear Leader as an idol and doing his bidding by violently attacking anyone who holds him accountable for criminal behavior, and pretending he's John von Neumann because he can repeat Person Woman Man Camera TV.

 

You forgot the Hitler comparison. 

[Cory1848]

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

She has the same rights as any other citizen in a country with free speech to say whatever she likes, within the law, and everyone else has the right to accept or reject what she says. If one doesn't like to be criticized for what one says in a public forum, one shouldn't say anything publicly in the first place.

 

However, if one wants to use their popularity to talk politics, one can hardly complain if they get attacked for doing so. The saying about heat and kitchens is always applicable when it comes to politics.

 

 

You’re looking at it the wrong way. She is talking politics (occasionally) despite her popularity. She doesn’t care if she’s attacked for doing so. I am not a fan of her music (and as a Broncos fan I am not rooting for her Chiefs), but I find her genuinely sincere. The whole point here is not that she’s just being a normal person voicing her opinion, but that Trump fans have gone into hysterics about it.

[stevenl]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Explain where the facts in this rant are:

 

 

His post consists of facts. 

[bamnutsak]

For the most part, the right is dragging her because she encouraged people to register to vote. For some reason, the right prefers that fewer people vote.

 

 

Her counter-endorsement of Marcia Blackburn, or endorsement of Biden in 2020, or potential endorsement of Biden in 2024, isn't the issue flummoxing the right-wing low-IQ pundits and voters.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

7 hours ago, charleskerins said:

 

They fear intelligent women

They fear women they can’t control.

 

Keep that in mind whenever you come across a right winger vomiting their vitriol on any woman that speaks up for herself, defends herself or challenges their world view.

 

You see it often enough in this forum.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

52 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

You forgot the Hitler comparison. 

The first mention he gets in this thread.

 

Now who was it banging on about Godwin’s Law a few days back?

 

 

 

 

[JonnyF]

5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The first mention he gets in this thread.

 

Now who was it banging on about Godwin’s Law a few days back?

 

 

 

 

 

Yes we only got fascism so far but the thread is young (although from memory I'm pretty sure a Hitler comparison was already removed). 

 

 

[ozimoron]

5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I have to guess, but I assume you are talking about a singer who made it out of thousands of wannabe music stars because she has good genes, but is still just a musician.

Why would anyone take political advice from a musician?

 

As usual you attack Trump for what he is, and ignore why many, many millions of adult Americans chose him as POTUS instead of her.

Have you ever asked yourself WHY so many adult Americans prefer him, DESPITE his many failings, over your hero Biden?

 

Why would anyone take political advice from a reality TV personality? A question Ive never found an answer for.

[ozimoron]

Fruit cake, anyone?

 

Myriad baseless rumors emerged on social media — everything from claims that Swift has played a part in Pentagon psychological operations to the idea that she and her two-time Super Bowl champion boyfriend are key assets in a secret plot to help President Joe Biden get reelected in 2024. Another variant: That the Chiefs’ success was rigged as part of the plan for the game on Feb. 11 in Las Vegas.

 

Political and media figures on the right, including former Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy, political activist Laura Loomer and One America News Network host Alison Steinberg, have amplified the allegations.

 

https://apnews.com/article/super-bowl-taylor-swift-travis-kelce-conspiracy-theories-838ce3087c795cb45468d08ebbb27059

[Walker88]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

LOL. You still ignore the reasons as to why they support Trump. You can carry on all day about how demented they are, but the reasons won't change as long as people like Biden are POTUS.

 

Next.

I know why they vote for him:

 

Because they are losers who cannot accept responsibility for their own failure in life. trump gives them an excuse for failure. Like any good dictator wannabe, he tells them nothing is their fault, and he gives them someone to blame, whether that is immigrants, women, Blacks or Moslems.

 

trumpers are frightened by their own shadows, They think the greatest problem facing the planet is that a small % of people insist on using different pronouns, when ten thousand things are of greater import. They have zero perspective, perhaps because they are incapable of thinking.

 

Their silly slogan of maga contains 'again'. That means they pine for a time when Blacks went by the n-word and rode at the back of the bus, and women were barefoot and pregnant. That those losers have to compete with minorities and women---and be bested by them---is more than their fragile snowflake egos can take. trump promises to take them back "again" to white male privilege and a visible white society.  trump owns racists, misogynists and the poorly educated.

 

Biden has the country booming. Highest growth in years, lowest unemployment, jobs going wanting, infrastrcuture being upgraded....if trumpers were so entitled, they might be able to benefit, but they think the world owes them because they're white

 

Even on this site, look at the Carroll thread. One trumper called Blacks "chocolates". Typical trumper.

[JCauto]

15 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

 "The NFL is recognized as a 'sports entertainment' business — like the WWE — and they can legally fix the outcome of games"

 

This from multiple search results on the Google machine.

 

Yet you couldn't provide a reference? Sigh.

[ozimoron]

4 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

I know why they vote for him:

 

Because they are losers who cannot accept responsibility for their own failure in life. trump gives them an excuse for failure. Like any good dictator wannabe, he tells them nothing is their fault, and he gives them someone to blame, whether that is immigrants, women, Blacks or Moslems.

 

trumpers are frightened by their own shadows, They think the greatest problem facing the planet is that a small % of people insist on using different pronouns, when ten thousand things are of greater import. They have zero perspective, perhaps because they are incapable of thinking.

 

Their silly slogan of maga contains 'again'. That means they pine for a time when Blacks went by the n-word and rode at the back of the bus, and women were barefoot and pregnant. That those losers have to compete with minorities and women---and be bested by them---is more than their fragile snowflake egos can take. trump promises to take them back "again" to white male privilege and a visible white society.  trump owns racists, misogynists and the poorly educated.

 

Biden has the country booming. Highest growth in years, lowest unemployment, jobs going wanting, infrastrcuture being upgraded....if trumpers were so entitled, they might be able to benefit, but they think the world owes them because they're white

 

Even on this site, look at the Carroll thread. One trumper called Blacks "chocolates". Typical trumper.

 

You don't have to be an incel to vote for Trump but all incels do vote for Trump. Taylor Swift is the ultimate target for incels.

 

It is a very scary time for young men in America, where you can be guilty of something you may not be guilty of … Women are doing great. (Donald Trump, 2 October 2018, on the #MeToo movement)

 

https://www.emerald.com/insight/content/doi/10.1108/978-1-83982-254-420211008/full/pdf?title=legitimising-misogyny

 

 

Edited February 1 by ozimoron

[ozimoron]

Hard to choose what's more tragic," Brownworth said. "That these sad little men think Swift is untalented or that they can't find anyone but Kid Rock to elevate as their symbol of talent.'"

JBug agreed, writing: "Powerful women scare weak men. Poor baby."

 

https://www.newsweek.com/kid-rock-tweet-taylor-swift-resurfaces-1830171

 

 

[Walker88]

21 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Yes we only got fascism so far but the thread is young (although from memory I'm pretty sure a Hitler comparison was already removed). 

 

 

Well, I'll invoke Godwin's Law.

 

trump absolutely would be Hitler if he had the chance. ZERO doubt about that. Fortunately he isn't as smart as Hitler, but he's every bit as psychopathic and evil. He might pick a new demographic for the "Final Solution", but do it he would. He has spoken of getting rid of all Moslems. He wants to jail political opponents, who---unlike trump---have broken no laws and committed no crimes. His jargon is pure Third Reich. It's no coincidence. Even his first wife claims he kept speeches of Hitler on his nightstand.

 

His talk of "retribution" ("I am your retribution", he said in one of his recent rallies) and his statements about executing Gen Milley is pure fascism. He calls those who violently attempted to subvert the election and overthrow US democracy, but who were caught, tried and convicted, "hostages" and "political prisoners". No, they are treasonous scum who should be shot,

 

trump foments violence through his comments. Only idiots do not see that. "Come to DC. It'll be WILD".

[Cory1848]

13 minutes ago, Walker88 said:

I know why they vote for him:

 

Because they are losers who cannot accept responsibility for their own failure in life. trump gives them an excuse for failure. Like any good dictator wannabe, he tells them nothing is their fault, and he gives them someone to blame, whether that is immigrants, women, Blacks or Moslems.

 

trumpers are frightened by their own shadows, They think the greatest problem facing the planet is that a small % of people insist on using different pronouns, when ten thousand things are of greater import. They have zero perspective, perhaps because they are incapable of thinking.

 

Their silly slogan of maga contains 'again'. That means they pine for a time when Blacks went by the n-word and rode at the back of the bus, and women were barefoot and pregnant. That those losers have to compete with minorities and women---and be bested by them---is more than their fragile snowflake egos can take. trump promises to take them back "again" to white male privilege and a visible white society.  trump owns racists, misogynists and the poorly educated.

 

Biden has the country booming. Highest growth in years, lowest unemployment, jobs going wanting, infrastrcuture being upgraded....if trumpers were so entitled, they might be able to benefit, but they think the world owes them because they're white

 

Even on this site, look at the Carroll thread. One trumper called Blacks "chocolates". Typical trumper.

Michael Douglas (or his scriptwriter) summed it up precisely in a speech he gave toward the end of a movie in which he played the US president -- his party affiliation is never specified, but he’s clearly a Democrat. “My opponent [the Republican] only cares about two things: making you afraid of it, and telling you who’s to blame for it. That, ladies and gentlemen, is how you win elections.” The movie came out in 1995 -- during Bill Clinton’s first term.

[JCauto]

1 hour ago, Cory1848 said:

Why would anyone take political advice from a TV game show host/B-movie actor/peanut farmer? I don’t think that Taylor Swift is so much offering political advice as simply on occasion voicing her opinion, and from the clips I’ve seen, she’s quite sincere. She has as much right to do that as you do; in fact, if America is truly the citizens’ republic that it purports to be, one can argue that she has a duty to call out flaws in her leaders, and to engage in debate. And if she just happens to have a bigger megaphone than you do, deal with it ...

 

The "peanut farmer" was a Nuclear Engineer who was an officer in the Navy and a successful farmer and businessman. He was elected to the State Senate and became Governor before being elected President. He has written 32 books. He should never be put in the same sentence as the two clowns you also mentioned.

[OneMoreFarang]

America

'nuff said

[JCauto]

16 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

Hard to choose what's more tragic," Brownworth said. "That these sad little men think Swift is untalented or that they can't find anyone but Kid Rock to elevate as their symbol of talent.'"

JBug agreed, writing: "Powerful women scare weak men. Poor baby."

 

“We don’t have Taylor Swift on our side, but you know who we have?” Posobiec said. “We have Kid Rock. We have Ted Nugent. We have influencers. We have all these people ― Jon Voight"

 

ROLFMAO! Jon Voight! Kid Rock! Ted Nugent! That's some star power. Why didn't he mention Scott Baio? Has Chachi fallen so far?

[ozimoron]

2 minutes ago, JCauto said:

 

“We don’t have Taylor Swift on our side, but you know who we have?” Posobiec said. “We have Kid Rock. We have Ted Nugent. We have influencers. We have all these people ― Jon Voight"

 

ROLFMAO! Jon Voight! Kid Rock! Ted Nugent! That's some star power. Why didn't he mention Scott Baio? Has Chachi fallen so far?

 

 

I've only heard of 3 of these people.

 

https://www.musicinminnesota.com/musicians-who-are-trump-supporters/

[Cory1848]

14 minutes ago, JCauto said:

 

The "peanut farmer" was a Nuclear Engineer who was an officer in the Navy and a successful farmer and businessman. He was elected to the State Senate and became Governor before being elected President. He has written 32 books. He should never be put in the same sentence as the two clowns you also mentioned.

I completely agree with you (he also won the Nobel Peace Prize) and was just making a rhetorical point that being a musician is no different from being in any other profession with respect to the right to voice a political opinion (and advance to the presidency). In my examples I may be guilty of both-sidesism, which I did not intend. You’re completely right: the other two clowns can’t hold a candle to Carter.

[herfiehandbag]

The cynic in me notes that Germany in the 1930s was marked by a wide variety of party sponsored "bunds" and movements, membership of which was essential to operate successfully in a wide variety of entertainment, cultural, sporting and social fields. If you were in any way aligned with the then political opposition you were eventually forced out of existence.

 

Perhaps that time is coming again: MAGA alignment to become a central part of these areas of life?

 

Red hats rather than brown shirts...

 

Just missing.

Edited February 1 by herfiehandbag

[uttradit]

Her fans are teenage girls not adults.

[Cory1848]

10 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

I've only heard of 3 of these people.

 

https://www.musicinminnesota.com/musicians-who-are-trump-supporters/

Jon Voight, whose career highlight was starring in the movie “Deliverance” in 1972, these days is only famous for being Angelina Jolie’s father. The two have had a “fraught relationship.”

[herfiehandbag]

28 minutes ago, JCauto said:

 

The "peanut farmer" was a Nuclear Engineer who was an officer in the Navy and a successful farmer and businessman. He was elected to the State Senate and became Governor before being elected President. He has written 32 books. He should never be put in the same sentence as the two clowns you also mentioned.

Absolutely. Carter is a decent honest man. Come to that, Regan, whatever you think of his political policies, was also essentially a decent man; the  reality TV host and serial bankrupt, who today is revealed to have been using eye watering amounts of the money donated to his political campaigns to pay his equally astronomical legal fees, well I am not so sure.

Edited February 1 by herfiehandbag