Biden Warns of a 'Nightmare' Future with Trump, Lists Reasons for Concern

[heybruce]

4 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  I have replied to those points numerous times over the years , just going over the same old routine. 

Move on, it was four years ago

It was four years ago and the POTUS at the time, the one who did nothing to call off his mob rampaging in the Capitol for three hours, is running for office again.  Everyone should remember that.

[Danderman123]

4 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Trump was making the point that if NATO Countries don't make a financial contribution to NATO , then the USA shouldn't defend those Countries if they are attacked .

  He wants other  NATO Countries to pay their share of the costs 

You understand Trump's message, but you still want to confuse other people.

 

Trump's message was that defending Europe against Russia is optional.

 

Do you disagree?

[Nick Carter icp]

24 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The U.S. does not have to pay for any NATO defenses beyond its own obligations.

 

The Governments of other NATO nations are not so subservient to the demands of their arms industry as is the U.S.

 

 

 

   And the message was "Don't come crying to us if your defences aren't adequate to protect your own Country" .

   Countries are skipping on paying for self defence knowing that the USA will bail them out in any war and Trump wants them to pay their own way and not rely on the USA

[Chomper Higgot]

Just now, heybruce said:

It was four years ago and the POTUS at the time, the one who did nothing to call off his mob rampaging in the Capitol for three hours, is running for office again.  Everyone should remember that.

More specifically, the events Trump describes in his outrageous statement almost certainly never happened; a number of attendees at the meeting have stated they have no recollection of Trump saying any such thing.

 

Which begs the question.

 

Why did he say this now and who did he want to get that message to?

[jvs]

1 hour ago, uttradit said:

You managed to ignore the facts and respond with two words. I can see what kind of person votes Democrat. No wonder senile Joe won. 

Go back to the first post you quoted me on,you totally ignored the facts!

But nice of you to admit Joe Biden won the election,

[Chomper Higgot]

19 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   And the message was "Don't come crying to us if your defences aren't adequate to protect your own Country" .

   Countries are skipping on paying for self defence knowing that the USA will bail them out in any war and Trump wants them to pay their own way and not rely on the USA

 

That was not the message.

 

‘Russia [Putin] do what the hell you like’ if I am elected U.S. President.

 

Was the clear and unequivocal message.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, uttradit said:

Joe hasn't spoken to Putin in 3 years. What kind of useless POTUS is this guy? Doesn't have a clue. Keeps asking for more billions to give away.

Sending munitions to Ukraine is the only ‘talking to Putin’ that Biden needs do.

 

Certainly beats standing in front of the world’s news cameras and declaring I believe Putin and not the U.S. Security Services.

 

‘RUssia, if you’re listening’.

 

[heybruce]

4 hours ago, impulse said:

 

The problem with that non-denial denial is that he recognized that he had classified documents.  At home.  In 2017.  Documents he had no right to possess.   Five years before he turned them in.  That was criminal, in 2017.  Long before he could claim dementia.

 

Ever had a job where you dealt with classified on a daily basis?  I did, in the military where there are proper safeguards to protect classified.  It's clear that the White House doesn't have such safeguards, which has engendered a relaxed attitude.  Biden mentioned it then forgot to follow up, as the quote suggests.  Trump fought to keep classified he had no right to have.

[uttradit]

15 minutes ago, jvs said:

Go back to the first post you quoted me on,you totally ignored the facts!

But nice of you to admit Joe Biden won the election,

 

Yes millions of idiots voted Biden. Sums up America. 

[heybruce]

3 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   It was part of the entertainment  for the attendees at his rally . 

He wasn't seriously considering withdrawing from NATO

And you know this how...?

[heybruce]

2 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

The optimal solution is to stop illegal immigration, but to allow sufficient legal immigration to fill those jobs.

I agree.  However both approaches need to be conducted in parallel.  Currently neither party is discussing rational immigration reform, while the Republicans are blocking moves to improve the situation on the border.

[heybruce]

1 hour ago, Danderman123 said:

Here's the bottom line: if Biden or Trump show obvious signs of mental deterioration after Labor Day, when people are paying attention, then they will lose the election.

 

No need for a million posts over small mistakes, the public will notice.

 

Biden has a State of the Union address next month, if he gets through that, he will be nominated for sure.

Unfortunately I am not at all confident about that.  A lot of votes are cast based on name recognition alone.

[uttradit]

11 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   And the message was "Don't come crying to us if your defences aren't adequate to protect your own Country" .

   Countries are skipping on paying for self defence knowing that the USA will bail them out in any war and Grump wants them to pay their own way and not rely on the USA

Trump is smart, Biden is dumb. Biden keeps paying Ukraine. Won't phone Putin. Joe is so dumb.

[heybruce]

5 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

 Can you complete this captcha ?

What boxes have traffic lights in them ?

 

 

  I have suspicions that you may be a bot 

 

 

I have suspicions you are a Russian troll or useful idiot desperately trying to deflect attention from what a terrible, unpatriotic President Trump was.

[heybruce]

1 hour ago, uttradit said:

Joe hasn't spoken to Putin in 3 years. What kind of useless POTUS is this guy? Doesn't have a clue. Keeps asking for more billions to give away.

A POTUS that puts more emphasis on friends and allies than on enemies and despots.

[heybruce]

1 minute ago, uttradit said:

Trump is smart, Biden is dumb. Biden keeps paying Ukraine. Won't phone Putin. Joe is so dumb.

I seriously doubt that you have the intellectual capacity to judge Biden, regardless of what you think you learned on YouTube.

[Danderman123]

18 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Unfortunately I am not at all confident about that.  A lot of votes are cast based on name recognition alone.

Since 80 million people voted for Biden in 2020, I am not worried about name recognition in November.

[Danderman123]

21 minutes ago, uttradit said:

 

Yes millions of idiots voted Biden. Sums up America. 

Have you looked at the relationship between college education and voting patterns?

[scottiejohn]

28 minutes ago, uttradit said:

 

Yes millions of idiots voted Biden. Sums up America. 

Yes millions of idiots voted Biden Trump.  Sums up America. 

 

PS;  It looks like millions of idiots will be stuck with voting for either Biden or Trump. Sums up America. 

 

 

 

Edited February 13 by scottiejohn

[Nick Carter icp]

12 minutes ago, heybruce said:

I have suspicions you are a Russian troll or useful idiot desperately trying to deflect attention from what a terrible, unpatriotic President Trump was.

 

  No need to be abusive and confrontational  , I was just pointing out that you are very repetitive  and keep saying the same thing over and over gain , same as bots do and I thought that I'd check to see whether you are a bot or not 

[heybruce]

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  No need to be abusive and confrontational  , I was just pointing out that you are very repetitive  and keep saying the same thing over and over gain , same as bots do and I thought that I'd check to see whether you are a bot or not 

I was being honest.  Anyone who supports Trump after Jan 6 clearly doesn't care what kind of self-serving traitor is in the White House.

[Sluglord]

This is absolute hilarity

 

The only thing more asinine is the people that voted for this dirty Tampax

 

Biden always was an imbecile. Smart enough to lord over the tiny state of Delaware.

 

 

Where's the laptop now?

Who's wearing the blue dress now?

[Nick Carter icp]

3 minutes ago, heybruce said:

I was being honest.  Anyone who supports Trump after Jan 6 clearly doesn't care what kind of self-serving traitor is in the White House.

 

   What happened on January 6 th ?

Did I miss something ?

[Sluglord]

3 minutes ago, heybruce said:

I was being honest.  Anyone who supports Trump after Jan 6 clearly doesn't care what kind of self-serving traitor is in the White House.

Precisely, what occurred on January 6 that makes Trump a traitor?

[Nick Carter icp]

8 minutes ago, Sluglord said:

Precisely, what occurred on January 6 that makes Trump a traitor?

 

   There were some protests because some people thought that there had been cheating in the election and they wanted to uphold the democratic process and keep elections fair and they protested against what they thought was cheating 

[uttradit]

22 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  No need to be abusive and confrontational  , I was just pointing out that you are very repetitive  and keep saying the same thing over and over gain , same as bots do and I thought that I'd check to see whether you are a bot or not 

TDS posts are all very similar. Repeat the same things.

[Phulublub]

16 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   There were some protests because some people thought that there had been cheating in the election and they wanted to uphold the democratic process and keep elections fair and they protested against what they thought was cheating 

And in that regard they were almost right...several post election recounts have revealed that votes cast were not exactly as published.  Most (all?) were miscounted in Trump's favour.  But there was no widespread fraud, no widespread misconduct.  As far as I am aware, the only convictions of people trying to act illegally have been of people voting for Trump.  But don;t let hard truths get in the way of your narrative

 

I would also suggest that chanting "Hang Mike Pence" and erecting a gallows is hardly "upholding the democratic process".

 

PH

Edited February 13 by Phulublub

[Nick Carter icp]

1 minute ago, Phulublub said:

And in that regard they were almost right...several post election recounts have revealed that votes cast were not exactly as published.  Most (all?) were miscounted in Trump's favour.  But there was no widespread fraud, no widespread misconduct.  As far as I am aware, the only convictions of people trying to act illegally have been of people voting for Trump.  But don;t let hard truths get in the way of your narrative

 

PH

 

  Those postal votes are rather suspicious

[Phulublub]

3 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  Those postal votes are rather suspicious

How?

[jvs]

1 hour ago, Sluglord said:

Precisely, what occurred on January 6 that makes Trump a traitor?

Precisely,what occurred on January 6 that makes trump a traitor!!!!!!