Is Thailand’s love-hate relationship with legal cannabis coming to an end?

[steven100]

2 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

Who told you that drugs are wrong but alcohol is fine ?  and why did you believe them?

 

You honestly think that drug users are not frowned upon in society ? you think it's fine to use drugs ?     I just can't believe that thought ... 

 

In my home town when I was around 10 yrs old,  nobody was a drug user and if you were then you were an outcast.

Same in many country towns ....     people do go and socialize at the pub over a beer which is normal in country towns,  but taking drugs and addicts is not considered normal and is not liked at all. 

 

anyway,   I've gotta run so let's enjoy the day and don't think too mut ..

[Bday Prang]

45 minutes ago, Scouse123 said:

 

So, it's stupid then?

Stupid question.?   (only joking but couldn't resist)

[Davedub]

If the complaints from the public are regarding the smell from use in public, surely banning its use in public would be a better response than banning it outright and depriving millions of adults their personal choice to use?

 

I understand people complaining about the smell and second hand smoke, this is totally fair comment - I'm not a fan of sitting in clouds of other people's exhaled smoke either! But to wreck 1000s of small businesses because of the smoking in public issue? This makes no sense.

[mikebike]

34 minutes ago, steven100 said:

 

yes ....  how could this be good for any society.    

Please, please, please - justify alcohol for me. As I said, if you can accept alcohol, there is no other drug you should reject. 

[mikebike]

31 minutes ago, steven100 said:

sorry Bday, i'm just not a pot head ... I was taught what's right from wrong when I was young ...  and drugs ARE WRONG. 

 

 

 

and on that note .... we can agree to disagree ...  😉

You were "taught" propaganda. And even at your advanced age you cannot accept that. Freaking sad. 

[Bday Prang]

4 minutes ago, steven100 said:

 

You honestly think that drug users are not frowned upon in society ? you think it's fine to use drugs ?     I just can't believe that thought ... 

 

In my home town when I was around 10 yrs old,  nobody was a drug user and if you were then you were an outcast.

Same in many country towns ....     people do go and socialize at the pub over a beer which is normal in country towns,  but taking drugs and addicts is not considered normal and is not liked at all. 

 

anyway,   I've gotta run so let's enjoy the day and don't think too mut ..

                   At least tell us how you have arrived at the conclusion that alcohol is not an intoxicating drug ?   I find that view astonishing,  especially given its addictive nature and its potential to cause violence even when ingested in small quantities. 

                    When I was young there were several homeless alcoholics loitering around the neighbourhood ,literally begging for money , sleeping in the gutter or shop doorways, allowed to claim their welfare benefits daily, prone to aggression amongst themselves and the wider community. permanently unwashed,   and soaked with and stinking of either vomit , blood or urine ,  often all three at the same time.   Occasionally they would be locked up and dried out, but inevitably returned to their old ways when released.

                   Surprisingly these people were also "frowned upon "    by society 

                   Cannabis is not addictive and you might be surprised to learn that very few members of society consider its use to be problematic these days. A little bit like homosexuality in that  times are changing and old fashioned views are neither welcome of to be tolerated anymore

                   I understand you have to rush out now, I just looked at the time,  it will be a "TGI friday" happy hour special today I guess

[Bday Prang]

13 minutes ago, Davedub said:

If the complaints from the public are regarding the smell from use in public, surely banning its use in public would be a better response than banning it outright and depriving millions of adults their personal choice to use?

 

I understand people complaining about the smell and second hand smoke, this is totally fair comment - I'm not a fan of sitting in clouds of other people's exhaled smoke either! But to wreck 1000s of small businesses because of the smoking in public issue? This makes no sense.

Not to mention blighting their lives with a drugs conviction

[papa al]

3 hours ago, steven100 said:

 

There are many more but I'm not wasting anymore time to show you facts .....

 

79-year-old grandma tragically murdered by her drug-crazed grandson in Chonburi

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Friday, 21 October 2022, 17:02

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20-year-old drug addict stabs grandmother to death in ...

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4 Aug 2020 — The incident took place on Monday when Nikhil Kumar, a drug addict, asked his grandmother, Bhuma Devi, for money to buy drugs but she refused, ..

not ganji related genius.

[Dickie Dee]

23 hours ago, dingdongrb said:

I was sitting in a coffee café located high up in the beautiful hills of Nan province and I could still smell the stink of burning trash and ground cover.

 

Oh well, when Thailand ban the burning of the fields and trash?

breathing of toxic smoke is encouraged. The aroma of a natural herb is the real problem. 

[stoner]

2 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

Ok you are not a user,  so leave the rest of us alone,  You like a drink and would soon get fed up being dictated to by "pot heads" who don't drink, of which there are many, or teetotallers,  would you not?

 

Who told you that drugs are wrong but alcohol is fine ?  and why did you believe them?

 

He is a hypocritical user. Alcohol is a drug plain and simple. 

[candide]

Weed is legal in NL, Spain and also in some U.S. states. No acute negative consequences have been observed there.

[ThaiFelix]

5 hours ago, 2baht said:

Steven, how many of the annual road toll, around 20,000+, are dope smokers and how many are p!$$ heads?

You are wasting your time with that.  lol!

[ThaiFelix]

6 hours ago, LukKrueng said:

There's no lack of regulations, only lack of enforcement.

The regulations say who can\can't smoke (under 20 years old, pregnant and nursing women) and that smoking in public places is not allowed. So if people smoke in public places they should be stopped. Simple enough.

Exactly just like it would be with cigarettes. alcohol etc in a public place if we had a police force.  Dont just change the laws so you can give the cops more time off, get them to do their jobs.

[ThaiFelix]

3 hours ago, steven100 said:

sorry Bday, i'm just not a pot head ... I was taught what's right from wrong when I was young ...  and drugs ARE WRONG. 

 

 

 

and on that note .... we can agree to disagree ...  😉

But they didnt tell you, nor do you still not realise, that alcohol is a drug?  Drugs are wrong but alcohol is somehow ok?  Some logic you have there mate lol!

 

[ThaiFelix]

6 hours ago, 1happykamper said:

Uhmmm... Hell no! THEY ARE forcing me to partake! Nowadays getting away from the stink is difficult. I want to enjoy the beach...or a coffee or a beer without that stink! So you want me to move and not them? No. It doesn't work that way. 

 

Get rid of the stink 

We already clarified that, enforcement is whats needed.

[candide]

4 hours ago, steven100 said:

 

yes ....  how could this be good for any society.    

You need to take reality into account. The choice is not weed/no weed. It's legal weed/illegal weed.

Same reasoning as about alcohol. You remember the prohibition? Mafia, criminality, corruption, nice people had to be in contact with bad people, no tax, justice and police attention distracted from real crimes, etc...

It's the same for illegal weed: mafia, gangs, criminality, corruption, no tax, justice and police attention diverted from real drug problems such as Yaba and other hard drugs..

Legal weed: nice people in contact with nice people who legally make a living, not with dealers who may try to convert them to hard drugs, police and justice focused on real criminality.....

[stoner]

3 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

                   At least tell us how you have arrived at the conclusion that alcohol is not an intoxicating drug ?   I find that view astonishing,  especially given its addictive nature and its potential to cause violence even when ingested in small quantities. 

                    When I was young there were several homeless alcoholics loitering around the neighbourhood ,literally begging for money , sleeping in the gutter or shop doorways, allowed to claim their welfare benefits daily, prone to aggression amongst themselves and the wider community. permanently unwashed,   and soaked with and stinking of either vomit , blood or urine ,  often all three at the same time.   Occasionally they would be locked up and dried out, but inevitably returned to their old ways when released.

                   Surprisingly these people were also "frowned upon "    by society 

                   Cannabis is not addictive and you might be surprised to learn that very few members of society consider its use to be problematic these days. A little bit like homosexuality in that  times are changing and old fashioned views are neither welcome of to be tolerated anymore

                   I understand you have to rush out now, I just looked at the time,  it will be a "TGI friday" happy hour special today I guess

 

don't forget how often he reminds us of how drunk he is by mid afternoon. 

 

the ignorance is astounding to me. but expected.

[ThaiFelix]

6 hours ago, steven100 said:

oh I'm sorry ThaiFelix, so smoking their cannabis all day is fine. no problem. 

 

 

Youre making up more stuff?  Show me where I said smoking cannabis all day is fine?  GO ON show me?

[ThaiFelix]

4 hours ago, steven100 said:

 

You honestly think that drug users are not frowned upon in society ? you think it's fine to use drugs ?     I just can't believe that thought ... 

 

In my home town when I was around 10 yrs old,  nobody was a drug user and if you were then you were an outcast.

Same in many country towns ....     people do go and socialize at the pub over a beer which is normal in country towns,  but taking drugs and addicts is not considered normal and is not liked at all. 

 

anyway,   I've gotta run so let's enjoy the day and don't think too mut ..

Why do you never answer the question put to you but instead waffle on about your childhood?

[ThaiFelix]

36 minutes ago, candide said:

Weed is legal in NL, Spain and also in some U.S. states. No acute negative consequences have been observed there.

So the NL. Spain, Portugal and all those US states where weed is legal have been lying through there teeth all this time?  Who would believe it? Loll  

[candide]

3 minutes ago, ThaiFelix said:

So the NL. Spain, Portugal and all those US states where weed is legal have been lying through there teeth all this time?  Who would believe it? Loll  

?

[BritManToo]

4 hours ago, steven100 said:

 

You honestly think that drug users are not frowned upon in society ? you think it's fine to use drugs ?     I just can't believe that thought ... 

 

In my home town when I was around 10 yrs old,  nobody was a drug user and if you were then you were an outcast.

Same in many country towns ....     people do go and socialize at the pub over a beer which is normal in country towns,  but taking drugs and addicts is not considered normal and is not liked at all. 

 

anyway,   I've gotta run so let's enjoy the day and don't think too mut ..

Back in my home town, once the pubs went 'no smoking', they put smoking sheds in the pub gardens and we all smoked cannabis every evening.

Rich people all snorted cocaine ...............

Even my London company works parties had cannabis and cocaine provided along with the free food and drinks.

 

Don't know what local poop hole you lived in, but it sure wasn't London or New York!

 

 

Edited February 16 by BritManToo

[benHH]

4 hours ago, steven100 said:

sorry Bday, i'm just not a pot head ... I was taught what's right from wrong when I was young ...  and drugs ARE WRONG. 

 

 

 

and on that note .... we can agree to disagree ...  😉

 

i'm just reading this whilst sipping my coffee , smoking my cigarette and taking an aspirin as i had too much alcohol last night .

 

😉

[steven100]

5 hours ago, mikebike said:

You were "taught" propaganda. And even at your advanced age you cannot accept that. Freaking sad. 

you think being a drug user is ok.    Very wrong in every way.   unbelievable

[steven100]

1 hour ago, stoner said:

 

don't forget how often he reminds us of how drunk he is by mid afternoon. 

 

the ignorance is astounding to me. but expected.

 

ignorance is that you bunch think it's fine to be a drug user, seller, whatever ....  DRUGS ARE considered a no go in any society in case you need reminding ....   beer is not.   !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[sirineou]

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Is Thailand’s love-hate relationship with legal cannabis coming to an end?

Of course not. 

if both love and hate come to an end , what's left ambivalence ? 

[steven100]

2 hours ago, ThaiFelix said:

But they didnt tell you, nor do you still not realise, that alcohol is a drug?  Drugs are wrong but alcohol is somehow ok?  Some logic you have there mate lol!

 

 

DRUGS are wrong ....   I don't care what you try to preach.

 

Having a beer at the pub or home is not wrong.  If you use drugs or sell or push drugs then you are an outcast in society.

 

DON'T EVEN TRY to change that attitude ....  it's ingrained and rightfully so.

 

are you seriously trying to tell me it's ok to be a drug user   ????????????????    

 

UNBELIEVABLE ....   !!

 

 

 

[steven100]

6 hours ago, Davedub said:

But to wreck 1000s of small businesses because of the smoking in public issue? This makes no sense.

so the pot head idea relates to jobs ....    haha  

[stoner]

25 minutes ago, steven100 said:

 

ignorance is that you bunch think it's fine to be a drug user, seller, whatever ....  DRUGS ARE considered a no go in any society in case you need reminding ....   beer is not.   !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

No. You see Steven where I come from cannabis is fully legal nation wide. Society has not fallen apart and cannabis is now considered.no more different than that drink you are slurping down just now.

Edited February 16 by stoner

[steven100]

7 minutes ago, stoner said:

 

No. You see Steven where I come from cannabis is fully legal nation wide. Society has not fallen apart and cannabis is now considered.no more different than that drink you are slurping down just now.

well,   maybe in the US or somewhere but not in Australia ....  and certainly not at my hometown.  Drugs users were and still are considered undesirables and outcasts ...  hence not a drug problem at my hometown ....  good farmers and city folk know that drug takers are not welcome and need policing.

 

good community town imo.