Historians rank Trump as worst president

[heybruce]

15 minutes ago, Dolf said:

Covid started in late 2019 and more deaths occured in 2021 than 2020.

 

"Data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention shows there were over 60,000 more deaths in 2021 compared to 2020. "

 

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/politics/texas/politifact/article/Fact-check-Have-there-been-more-U-S-COVID-16798210.php

Don't you think Trump's base--the people who are anti-vax, anti-mandate, anti-common sense--contributed significantly to the number of deaths?

[pomchop]

2 minutes ago, riclag said:

Finish the wall and 

Legally deport the illegals if the left judiciary will allow him.

For starters 

 

still waiting for that big check from mexico?  maybe he can sell enough $20 gold sneakers for $399 to his brain dead maga groupies to build him a bigly wall around his soon to be prison cell...and keep all those immigrants who poison the blood out...like his THREE ex wives ...all immigrants

[charleskerins]

48 minutes ago, Dolf said:

Just more misinformation.

 

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/peteraldhous/global-survey-vaccine-safety-measles-outbreaks

 

The United States ranks 45th for being anti vaccine.

  Move the goalposts much ?I didn't post anything about anti-vaccine ranking in the world .I posted about the orange one and his inept handling of the covid situation in the US.    No misinformation.   

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[Dolf]

Just now, heybruce said:

Don't you think Trump's base--the people who are anti-vax, anti-mandate, anti-common sense--contributed significantly to the number of deaths?

As I said before anti vaccine people are not that high in The United States. They rank 45th.

 

Don't you think your anti Trump stance has anything to do with your comments?

 

Deaths were higher per year under Biden and the vaccines were available. So Biden killed 60,000 more people even with vaccines but you want to blame Trump? No blame on Biden. Your argument is therefore finished.

[Dolf]

3 minutes ago, charleskerins said:

I didn't post anything about anti-vaccine ranking in the world .I posted about the orange one and his inept handling of the covid situation in the US.  move the goalposts much ?  No misinformation.

You posted misinformation. More deaths happened under Biden even with the help of vaccines. Therefore you have no argument. Just anti Trump nonsense.

[Dolf]

Biden failed badly on covid.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jan/15/omicron-covid-joe-biden-administration

[riclag]

21 minutes ago, Dolf said:

Who pays their salaries? Who are they friends with? Maybe their jobs and grants depended upon a certain answer. Rank Trump more highly and lose your job. 

Agree. When they put Barry ahead of JFK ,

that tells you everything you need to

know about their politic leanings!

 

Its been reported recently,biden polling is the lowest of any modern day Presidents!

Me thinks its wise to ask , what wacky weed brand were academics smoking!

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4373344-biden-year-end-rating-worst-modern-day-presidents-seeking-reelection-gallup/

 

imop

 

 

Edited February 20 by riclag

[charleskerins]

Just now, Dolf said:

Biden failed badly on covid.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jan/15/omicron-covid-joe-biden-administration

You failed badly.       

[Dolf]

Just now, charleskerins said:

You failed badly.       

That's a terrible comeback. Just admit you lost and walk away.

[charleskerins]

1 minute ago, riclag said:

When they put Barry ahead of JFK ,

that tells you everything you need to

know about their politic leanings!

 

Its been reported recently,biden polling is the lowest of any modern day Presidents!

Me thinks its wise to ask , what wacky weed brand were academics smoking!

 

imop

 

 

Their political leanings are included in the survey ,if you bothered to do any research.   JfK was a Democrat -methinks you are confused.

[LosLobo]

34 minutes ago, Dolf said:

So no blame attached to all the others? Some of which had 8 years to fix it but didn't.

Yes, blame to the Republicans who have had decades to help fix it.

Seems Democrats have always been interested in healthcare and introduced most of the initiatives with significant opposition from Republicans:
 

1)  Truman’s National Healthcare Plan: Truman’s proposal for a national healthcare plan in 1945 faced opposition from Republicans and the fear that the program would be a “Communist” act.
 

2)  Johnson's Medicare and Medicaid: While the Medicare and Medicaid programs were signed into law in 1965, there have been instances of Republican opposition to these programs over the years. For example, Republican Sen. Rick Scott has proposed that all federal legislation should “sunset” in five years.
 

3)  Obamacare: The Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare, faced significant opposition from Republicans since its inception and there were multiple attempts to repeal the law.

 

Edited February 20 by LosLobo

[Dolf]

1 minute ago, charleskerins said:

Their political leanings are included in the survey ,if you bothered to do any research.   JfK was a Democrat -methinks you are confused.

JFK was a good leader unlike some others. You do sound confused. 

[candide]

20 minutes ago, Dolf said:

Covid started in late 2019 and more deaths occured in 2021 than 2020.

 

"Data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention shows there were over 60,000 more deaths in 2021 compared to 2020. "

 

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/politics/texas/politifact/article/Fact-check-Have-there-been-more-U-S-COVID-16798210.php

The pandemic started end of February in the U.S. and deaths barely started in March. Biden started its mandate end of January, so January is on Trump. In January, it was the peak of the second wave (the worst in terms of deaths). 80k deaths.

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/27/us-reports-record-number-of-covid-deaths-in-january.html

 

[Dolf]

1 minute ago, LosLobo said:

Yes, blame to the Republicans who have had decades to help fix it.

Seems Democrats have always been interested in healthcare and introduced most of the initiatives with significant opposition from Republicans:
 

1)  Truman’s National Healthcare Plan: Truman’s proposal for a national healthcare plan in 1945 faced opposition from Republicans and the fear that the program would be a “Communist” act.
 

2)  Medicare and Medicaid: While the Medicare and Medicaid programs were signed into law in 1965, there have been instances of Republican opposition to these programs over the years. For example, Republican Sen. Rick Scott has proposed that all federal legislation should “sunset” in five years.
 

3)  Obamacare: The Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare, faced significant opposition from Republicans since its inception and there were multiple attempts to repeal the law.

Obamacare was signed into law in 2010, some 14 years ago.

[Dolf]

2 minutes ago, candide said:

The pandemic started end of February in the U.S. and deaths barely started in March. Biden started its mandate end of January, so January is on Trump. In January, it was the peak of the second wave (the worst in terms of deaths). 80k deaths.

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/27/us-reports-record-number-of-covid-deaths-in-january.html

 

Graph shows deaths went up under Biden. Good job sir. You proved Biden killed more people.

[charleskerins]

1 minute ago, Dolf said:

That's a terrible comeback. Just admit you lost and walk away.

  555       Leave the ball.     " If you have to insist that you've won an Internet argument, you've probably lost badly."    I agree .

 

[charleskerins]

4 minutes ago, Dolf said:

JFK was a good leader unlike some others. You do sound confused. 

Are you having difficulty with reading comprehension or do just randomly blurt stuff out not particularly germane to the topic?  Or is it both.      Both.      Is English your first language?

[Dolf]

1 minute ago, charleskerins said:

  555       Leave the ball.     " If you have to insist that you've won an Internet argument, you've probably lost badly."    I agree .

 

Thanks for your remarks sir.

[Dolf]

Just now, charleskerins said:

Are you having difficulty with reading comprehension or do just randomly blurt stuff out not particularly germane to the topic?  Or is it both.      Both.      Is English your first language?

Maybe work on improving your own. So far you convinced people that you don't know anything about the history of covid. 

[candide]

10 minutes ago, Dolf said:

Graph shows deaths went up under Biden. Good job sir. You proved Biden killed more people.

Really? Trump was still President in December 2020 and most of January 2021. 😃

Edited February 20 by candide

[riclag]

 He’s ranked 14 according to suspect academias but the looney tune is the First sitting President ever to be held mentally incompetent to stand trial!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/columnists/article-13066277/RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN-Biden-mentally-unfit-trial-President.html

[Dolf]

Just now, candide said:

Really? Trump was still President in December 2020 and most of January 2021. 😃

The vaccine was rolled out in March 2021 yet 2021 resulted in more deaths than 2020 so Biden killed more than Trump. Good job on being wrong.

[Dolf]

1 minute ago, riclag said:

 He’s ranked 14 according to suspect academias but the looney tune is the First sitting President ever to be held mentally incompetent to stand trial!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/columnists/article-13066277/RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN-Biden-mentally-unfit-trial-President.html

Or mentally fit to roll out covid vaccines or make decisions that require thought. 

[rudi49jr]

1 hour ago, scottiejohn said:

You have been a member under your present avatar for less than 48 Hours and are arguing with everybody.  Let us think/guess what your previous avatar was!

I was thinking exactly the same thing. The über aggressive/dismissive tone and wording definitely remind me of a certain member that I haven’t seen any posts from for a while. Coincidence?

[Dolf]

https://nypost.com/2023/07/01/how-the-biden-admin-is-failing-on-covid-again/

[candide]

2 minutes ago, Dolf said:

The vaccine was rolled out in March 2021 yet 2021 resulted in more deaths than 2020 so Biden killed more than Trump. Good job on being wrong.

Trump was president in January, and the pandemic started in February. So less deaths under the first 11 months of Biden than under the 11 months of Covid under Trump (and I'm nice to count February 2920 for Trump).

Trump's legacy was the biggest and deadliest covid wave.

[candide]

4 minutes ago, rudi49jr said:

I was thinking exactly the same thing. The über aggressive/dismissive tone and wording definitely remind me of a certain member that I haven’t seen any posts from for a while. Coincidence?

Bignok? 

[Dolf]

1 minute ago, candide said:

Trump was president in January, and the pandemic started in February. So less deaths under the first 11 months of Biden than under the 11 months of Covid under Trump (and I'm nice to count February 2920 for Trump).

Trump's legacy was the biggest and deadliest covid wave.

Started in late 2019. More deaths in 2021. Let's stick to the facts.

[rudi49jr]

Just now, candide said:

Bignok? 

No, not him. Can’t remember his name, but the one I’m thinking of had an avatar of a hissing cat or something.

[candide]

8 minutes ago, Dolf said:

Started in late 2019. More deaths in 2021. Let's stick to the facts.

It did  not start in 2019 in the U.S.!  😀

Edited February 20 by candide