wozzlegummich Posted February 26 Author Share Posted February 26 2 hours ago, Lacessit said: Nothing strange about getting rid of a vehicle that let me down twice, in dangerous conditions. Perhaps my sense of self-preservation is better than yours. Wouldn't you be bettter to get rid of your service centre? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wozzlegummich Posted February 26 Author Share Posted February 26 2 hours ago, Lacessit said: Engineered longevity? Not in my experience. Maybe you need help with chosing the cars you buy. Sounds like your pre-purchase checks haven't been that thorough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 Just now, wozzlegummich said: Maybe you need help with chosing the cars you buy. Sounds like your pre-purchase checks haven't been that thorough. You may be right. IMO my mistake was buying the Merc from an Asian. It's hit or miss whether their vehicles are serviced on schedule. If you are doing your own servicing, you have an advantage. Suppose you buy a 200 SLK Mercedes, secondhand. It will cost you the same as a Korean or Japanese matching product, brand new. Any technological improvements MB makes are reverse engineered into an Asian counterpart within 18 months. All Toyota or KIa engineers have to do is buy one Merc for study purposes. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 11 minutes ago, wozzlegummich said: Wouldn't you be bettter to get rid of your service centre? And go where? An independent mechanic, who probably has even less experience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnTheLash Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said: Perhaps it was a private sale, so no dealer premises? He had 2 other cars for sale. A wannabe dealer working from home. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 24 minutes ago, OnTheLash said: He had 2 other cars for sale. A wannabe dealer working from home. Which website? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wozzlegummich Posted February 26 Author Share Posted February 26 18 hours ago, Lacessit said: And go where? An independent mechanic, who probably has even less experience? Maybe educating yourself. But then who could you blame? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chongalulu Posted February 26 Popular Post Share Posted February 26 On 2/25/2024 at 5:40 PM, Lacessit said: Yes it was, 83000 km. Looking back, I should have realized the odometer was probably tampered with. I have owned Mitsubishi's that have done over 300,000 km, IMO Mercs are overrated. JD Power puts German prestige cars quite low on their reliability ratings. Toyota,honda ,lexus , Hyundai are at the top unsurprisingly. 100k is no feat in terms of reliability. Daughters 10 year old Yaris in UK has only ever needed 3 windscreen wipers and frankly looks set for another 10 years without much issue.. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 19 minutes ago, wozzlegummich said: Maybe educating yourself. But then who could you blame? It must be nice to sit on your shillings' worth of knowledge and feel superior to others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wozzlegummich Posted February 27 Author Share Posted February 27 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Lacessit said: It must be nice to sit on your shillings' worth of knowledge and feel superior to others. Having spent a lifetime in the motor vehicle repair industry and now working on the IT side of things, there is certainly an air of smugness for sure. I buy second hand Benz's because I like them. This is not a completely logical choice, for the reason's you mentioned, but I just want to have that solid feeling around me when driving that is common to most German engineered cars and the asian manufacturers try so hard to copy. So back on topic, If I am going to outlay ฿1-2 million on a car, I would want it to have comprehensive insurance. If I can't have that I will have to buy one at a price that I am comfotable to lose if I was to have an accident. Edited February 27 by wozzlegummich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharp Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 You'll get the car at a massively discounted price (Probably what it owed the pawn broker ++ then the REAL finance company will come calling a few months down the line As the payments haven't been kept up. Seen it a few times already 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 4 minutes ago, wozzlegummich said: Having spent a lifetime in the motor vehicle repair industry and now working on the IT side of things, there is certainly an air of smugness for sure. I buy second hand Benz's because I like them. This is not a completely logical choice, for the reason's you mentioned, but I just want to have that solid feeling around me when driving that is common to most German engineered cars and the asian manufacturers try so hard to copy. So back on topic, If I am going to outlay ฿1-2 million on a car, I would want it to have comprehensive insurance. If I can't have that I will have to buy one at a price that I am comfotable to lose if I was to have an accident. Have you ever driven a Kia Stinger or Hyundai Kona N? Having driven both, and a Merc, the German feels ponderous. From your perspective, solid. The Kona N has 4 modes - economy, normal, sport, and N. The N mode is also known as the Jesus Christ mode. As in, plant your foot, then exclaim Jesus Christ. That mode is really designed for racetracks. If I won the lottery, I might consider a BMW. The 7 series is a lot of car. Mercedes - never again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wozzlegummich Posted February 27 Author Share Posted February 27 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lacessit said: Have you ever driven a Kia Stinger or Hyundai Kona N? The Stinger I have driven. It was actually an ex cop car. Yes it was impressive but just didn't excite me. Body dynamics were way out of kilter with drive train. I've also punted an i30 N around a track here in Oz and whilst it was an absolute hoot I don't know if I could live with it as a daily. Everyone to their own - that is what makes life interesting. Edited February 27 by wozzlegummich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 7 minutes ago, wozzlegummich said: The Stinger I have driven. It was actually an ex cop car. Yes it was impressive but just didn't excite me. Body dynamics were way out of kilter with drive train. I've also punted an i30 N around a track here in Oz and whilst it was an absolute hoot I don't know if I could live with it as a daily. Everyone to their own - that is what makes life interesting. True. My favorite car is a Mitsubishi Magna AWD, you may know it as a Diamante. My son still has it with 350K on the odometer. At the time I bought it, $50,000 cheaper than any Benz AMG. One of the most under-rated vehicles ever made. I had a friend who drove a RWD Merc, he commented on how stable the Magna felt in the wet. Now tell me - is there a Merc in their stable of a similar body size, which would ever stir your pulse like the i30N? IIRC they were infamous for failing the moose test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 A long term MB lease/rental might be an option. Typically includes registration, maintenance and insurance in the cost. There seems to be a large market for such businesses in Bangkok. MB dealers might also offer long term rentals (ie., lease with option to purchase). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noobexpat Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 1 hour ago, Lacessit said: True. My favorite car is a Mitsubishi Magna AWD, you may know it as a Diamante. My son still has it with 350K on the odometer. At the time I bought it, $50,000 cheaper than any Benz AMG. One of the most under-rated vehicles ever made. I had a friend who drove a RWD Merc, he commented on how stable the Magna felt in the wet. Now tell me - is there a Merc in their stable of a similar body size, which would ever stir your pulse like the i30N? IIRC they were infamous for failing the moose test. I doubt anyone parked their kia or hyundai, glanced back when walking away and thought, what a looker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBChiangRai Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 I bought a 4 month old Mercedes demonstrator from the main dealer and negotiated 20% off the new price, it had 1,600km on it. I wouldn't buy one new that's for sure. Nor would I buy one over 3 years od, they can be money pits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liverpool Lou Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 5 hours ago, Sharp said: You'll get the car at a massively discounted price (Probably what it owed the pawn broker ++ then the REAL finance company will come calling a few months down the line As the payments haven't been kept up. Seen it a few times already Only if the car is bought without the registration book. If it's financed the finance company has the book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Top Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Forget it , i used to own a Second Hand Car sales pitch in Phuket. Believe me there is no such thing as a cheap car here in Thailand. Better you look for an almost brand new car secondhand vehicle for about 20% to 25% off new price. After that 20% drop they tend to hold there value very well ,Toyota is what i recommend. Mercedes are over priced here and over rated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Top Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 On 2/25/2024 at 12:12 PM, Lacessit said: The Benz I bought broke down in heavy traffic - twice. The second time, it was because a Benz dealership had diagnosed the cause of the breakdown incorrectly. Charged me 15,000 baht for a new alternator. I could not get rid of the bloody thing quickly enough. Agreed buy a Toyota Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MangoKorat Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 POTENTIAL DEPOSIT SCAM Not sure if this is the same but there's been a scam going on for a few years on several online car sales sites. The scam usually involves cars for sale at very low prices. The seller's state that they've had a lot of interest because of the price but they'll hold it for you on receipt of a small deposit - and that's all they are interested in, a deposit. This is offered to anyone who enquires and clearly the 'seller' is hoping for several deposits. They state that if the car is not as they described or has faults when you arrive, they will of course refund your deposit so your money is safe - its not. There is no car and they will stop all contact as soon as they receive your deposit. There's a number of stories used about why the car is so cheap but the most common one given used to be that the owner has now returned to their home country and left the car behind. The photos used are often lifted from other sites where the car may genuinely be up for sale. This has been going on for quite some time and they have no doubt got better at it but the first time I saw one the car was supposed to be in Thailand but had a UK tax disc in the window (UK tax discs were abolished years ago) and the houses in the background of the photos were clearly not Thai houses. There will be lots of variations and the scammers will no doubt have upped their game but the main pointers are the extremely cheap price and the request for a holding deposit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MangoKorat Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 An example of what I wrote above from Facebook Marketplace today - complete rubbish. The translation on Facebook is not too good but note the bit that says if you don't pay 5000 deposit, you won't get to see the truck. 😁 Pay 5000 and you'll never see the truck. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Year 2018 NISSAN NP300 NAVARA E CAB (WHITE) 2.5 Diesel MT 6speed Airbags Mile 6x,xxx km. Nance GE tax 66 The price is 69,000. - Baht New customers, please read the details before calling. Cheap price but there are restrictions as follows. ☎📱[hidden information] Golf Line🆔 : golfbkk356 💰💰Selling for cash only. Price is as posted. Cannot pay installment. Cannot finance. (Cash purchase, based on the listed price, no installment required) 👉The car is out of the pawn shop, cannot be transferred. Cannot sell books. The book is attached to the loan. You will get the pawn documents, ID copy, copy of the first page of the registration book. Transfer book, power of attorney, loan agreement and others. 👉Car that has lost pawn can be driven all over Thailand. All documents are handwritten with a name and a valid copy only from the owner of the car. The car cannot be transferred, but there is no legal problem because there are pawn documents of the owner directly. 👉Tax extension. You can use a copy of the page of the book. Act. Insurance. I can do it as usual. 👉Guarantee for safe usage from customers who take our cars every day. You can see from the sales reviews. *Ready to receive the car. Deposit 5,000 as usual. If you don't deposit, you won't make an appointment to pick up the car. In any case, this prevents customers who made an appointment to see the car, missed the appointment and didn't come to see the car. Sometimes the car is in the branch of the province. It will be a big loss. Check the trading history from the page. If you're not ready to buy, you don't need to make a deposit. It's a waste of time for both parties. Thank you very much !!! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 *Accept parking pawn. Interest 10%. Parking fee 1000 Baht/month. 1 month advance interest deducted. Someone will take care of it. *Buy pawned cars. Traffic jammed. Evaluate the price according to the condition. Translated from Thai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 On 2/26/2024 at 12:57 PM, Lacessit said: You may be right. IMO my mistake was buying the Merc from an Asian. It's hit or miss whether their vehicles are serviced on schedule. If you are doing your own servicing, you have an advantage. Suppose you buy a 200 SLK Mercedes, secondhand. It will cost you the same as a Korean or Japanese matching product, brand new. Any technological improvements MB makes are reverse engineered into an Asian counterpart within 18 months. All Toyota or KIa engineers have to do is buy one Merc for study purposes. MB technology is reverse-engineered into Japanese and Korean cars "within 18 months"? You made that up, didn't you? If you can't afford to buy a new MB and pay for genuine MB service, then you should stick with "Japanese and Korean" from the get go. You can self-service a Japanese and Korean build and get away with it. Not so much with the 'high-tech' MB (and Beemers). Most Thai MB owners do it for the prestige and the 'look at me' factor and eschew MB's expensive servicing. Hell, most ignore the recommended servicing on their Toyotas. That's why, as you have discovered, the second-hand MB market here is chock-full of bad lemons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoDisplayName Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 On 2/23/2024 at 6:17 AM, wozzlegummich said: A 3rd of the normal going price. Flood damage, already written off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacessit Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 On 2/27/2024 at 10:33 AM, noobexpat said: I doubt anyone parked their kia or hyundai, glanced back when walking away and thought, what a looker. When petrolheads see the letter N on any Hyundai model, their eyes light up. Some people buy Mercs for the cachet of owning one. I bought mine for the same reason. A bad decision on my part, bloody thing was a money pit. I have a Toyota Vios which is 18 yo. It has never let me down the way that Benz did. Stuff cachet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noobexpat Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 27 minutes ago, Lacessit said: When petrolheads see the letter N on any Hyundai model, their eyes light up. Not sure why a petrolhead is looking at the letters on a hyundai I've no idea what N means on one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBChiangRai Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 28 minutes ago, noobexpat said: Not sure why a petrolhead is looking at the letters on a hyundai I've no idea what N means on one. Numpty? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noobexpat Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 14 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said: Numpty? Could be. You getting one? 😋 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBChiangRai Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 18 minutes ago, noobexpat said: Could be. You getting one? 😋 Petrol performance cars are too slow and noisy for me, I will stick with my 530hp EV. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noobexpat Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 55 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said: Petrol performance cars are too slow and noisy for me, I will stick with my 530hp EV. Uninspiring i'm afraid. They're all fast, so nobody cares. Unless its a porsche taycan. But its probably a BYD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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