Progress made in hostage talks after U.S. presents new proposal, sources say

[Social Media]

 

Negotiations aimed at securing the release of hostages held by Hamas in Gaza have taken a significant step forward following a pivotal meeting in Paris. Sources familiar with the discussions revealed that U.S., Qatari, and Egyptian officials presented a refined proposal to Israeli negotiators during the gathering, marking a potentially crucial development in the ongoing efforts to broker a deal.

 

The new framework offers a more detailed outline, suggesting that Hamas would release approximately 40 hostages in exchange for a six-week ceasefire and the release of hundreds of Palestinian prisoners held by Israel. This proposal builds upon previous initiatives but provides a clearer roadmap for moving forward, enhancing the prospects of reaching a mutually acceptable agreement.

 

 

Key figures involved in the talks included CIA director Bill Burns, Qatari Prime Minister Sheikh Mohammed bin Abdulrahman al-Thani, and Abbas Kamel, the director of Egyptian intelligence. Their participation underscores the significance and urgency of finding a resolution to the hostage situation.

 

Following the meeting, the Israeli delegation, comprising officials from Mossad, Shin Bet, and the Israel Defense Forces intelligence, returned to Israel to brief the war cabinet. The outcome of this briefing, expected to take place over the weekend, will determine the next steps in the negotiation process.

 

 

While progress has been made, the success of the proposed framework hinges on several factors. Firstly, it requires approval from the Israeli war cabinet. Additionally, Qatari and Egyptian negotiators must secure Hamas' agreement to the new terms, ensuring that all parties are committed to advancing the negotiations in good faith.

 

 

The timing of these discussions is critical, with the Biden administration expressing a desire to reach a deal before the start of Ramadan, which is just over two weeks away. As such, follow-up meetings are anticipated in the coming days, with the hope of building on the momentum generated by the Paris talks.

 

Ultimately, the renewed focus on diplomatic efforts to secure the release of hostages reflects a collective commitment to resolving conflicts through dialogue and negotiation. While challenges remain, the willingness of all stakeholders to engage in constructive dialogue offers hope for a peaceful resolution to this longstanding humanitarian issue.

 

25.02.24

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[Bkk Brian]

I find it heart breaking for the hostages and the fact that Israel has to compromise so much to get them released from the terrorists. Its now down to Hamas yet again and we all wait on their decision.

 

In Paris, Israel and mediators agree on outline for hostage deal, pending Hamas okay

Israeli officials guardedly optimistic on prospect of agreement; framework said to include 6-week truce, release of 35-40 hostage women, children, female soldiers, elderly, ill. 

An Israeli delegation of top security officials returned from talks in Paris on Saturday as reports spread of growing hope in Jerusalem that a new hostage release deal with Hamas could be within reach.

Israel’s war cabinet was conferring by telephone on Saturday evening to discuss the emerging “outline of an agreement,” described by an Israeli official cited widely in media as a “basis on which to build a plan and the principles for negotiations.”

“There’s significant progress and a solid basis for discussions,” the official said.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-paris-israel-and-mediators-agree-on-outline-for-hostage-deal-pending-hamas-okay

 

 

 

 

[retarius]

How can the Palestinians trust anything the US proposes? Everything the US does is based pro-Israel and anti-Palestinian. The US is complicit in this ongoing genocide by supplying arms to Israel. I say, stop the slaughter. Innocent people are being murdered every day by the IDF and egged on by the zionists. I want to see every Israeli involved in this mass slaughter, condemned by the ICJ. 

[transam]

10 minutes ago, retarius said:

How can the Palestinians trust anything the US proposes? Everything the US does is based pro-Israel and anti-Palestinian. The US is complicit in this ongoing genocide by supplying arms to Israel. I say, stop the slaughter. Innocent people are being murdered every day by the IDF and egged on by the zionists. I want to see every Israeli involved in this mass slaughter, condemned by the ICJ. 

More drivel from you.........🥴

[Bkk Brian]

14 minutes ago, retarius said:

How can the Palestinians trust anything the US proposes? Everything the US does is based pro-Israel and anti-Palestinian. The US is complicit in this ongoing genocide by supplying arms to Israel. I say, stop the slaughter. Innocent people are being murdered every day by the IDF and egged on by the zionists. I want to see every Israeli involved in this mass slaughter, condemned by the ICJ. 

How can the Palestinians trust anything the US proposes?

 

Yea you keep outing yourself and trusting Hamas instead 

[Neeranam]

29 minutes ago, retarius said:

How can the Palestinians trust anything the US proposes? Everything the US does is based pro-Israel and anti-Palestinian. The US is complicit in this ongoing genocide by supplying arms to Israel. I say, stop the slaughter. Innocent people are being murdered every day by the IDF and egged on by the zionists. I want to see every Israeli involved in this mass slaughter, condemned by the ICJ. 

Exactly.

I understand the Israelis here defending Israel, but how can the Yanks here support what their government is doing?

[Neeranam]

4 hours ago, Social Media said:

The new framework offers a more detailed outline, suggesting that Hamas would release approximately 40 hostages in exchange for a six-week ceasefire and the release of hundreds of Palestinian prisoners held by Israel.

This biased article fails to mention why the Palestinians are in Jail.

[transam]

1 minute ago, Neeranam said:

Exactly.

I understand the Israelis here defending Israel, but how can the Yanks here support what their government is doing?

I am not American or Israeli, but I do know the cost in human life to eradicate the Nazi's, ISIS and now Hamas.

Did you support ISIS, should the Nazi's have been left alone, or were you against ISIS being taken out.....? 🤔

[Wobblybob]

2 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

This biased article fails to mention why the Palestinians are in Jail.

Why do you think as to why they are in Jail, it is not too difficult to hazard a guess. 🥴

[transam]

4 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

This biased article fails to mention why the Palestinians are in Jail.

Oh dear, I think you have just shown us your bias, yet again..........

[Bkk Brian]

4 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

This biased article fails to mention why the Palestinians are in Jail.

Biased................ 

 

So why are the hostages in dark tunnels below? The article failed to mention.

 

Do you see who is bias now? YOU

[ozimoron]

34 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

This biased article fails to mention why the Palestinians are in Jail.

 

It couldn't when many of those are held without charge, could it?

[Neeranam]

48 minutes ago, ozimoron said:

 

It couldn't when many of those are held without charge, could it?

Indeed, wouldn't quite sound the same -  "release of hundreds of Palestinian prisoners held by Israel without trial".

Palestinians are lesser beings and should not complain about being locked up and getting their land stolen.

[Bkk Brian]

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

Indeed, wouldn't quite sound the same -  "release of hundreds of Palestinian prisoners held by Israel without trial".

Palestinians are lesser beings and should not complain about being locked up and getting their land stolen.

You don't seem very pleased about a possible hostage deal and 6 week ceasefire

[Jeff the Chef]

Progress made in hostage talks after U.S. presents new proposal, sources say:

 

More Zionist propaganda, to make them look good, imho.

[transam]

2 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

You don't seem very pleased about a possible hostage deal and 6 week ceasefire

Probably because the hostages are mainly Jewish, seems NM doesn't like Jewish folk.........🥴

[transam]

5 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Progress made in hostage talks after U.S. presents new proposal, sources say:

 

More Zionist propaganda, to make them look good, imho.

Typical anti-USA comment........🥴

[Jeff the Chef]

1 minute ago, transam said:

Typical anti-USA comment........🥴

Anti-Zionist actually, but as their the biggest fanboys, I can live with that.

[Wobblybob]

10 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Me: "Hey Siri, describe a win-win scenario."

Siri: "Sure.

An example of a win-win scenario would be the US ending all aid to Israel and withdrawing all troops from the Middle East.

This would save billions of dollars, which could be spent on America's domestic issues, (there's a lot), and would also improve relations between Middle Eastern countries and the US.

Middle Eastern countries like Syria, Yemen, Iraq etc, could focus on rebuilding themselves without worrying about western intervention, and Iran would be far less hostile towards the US because of this."

Me: "Well Siri, that seems great! So why doesn't the US do just that?"

Siri: Good question!

The vast majority of American politicians are bought and paid for by Israel.

Israeli lobbies like AIPAC, and other private billionaire Jewish donors, provide the financial means for politicians to be elected, and in return the politician protects Israel's interests first.

Congress is quite corrupt!"

Me: "So why do Americans perceive Iran as a threat?"

Siri: "Iran is a threat to Israel, not the US.

Iran only hates America for its actions in the Middle East, and its diehard support for Israel.

As soon as this ends, Iran's hatred for the US would decrease significantly.

The Israeli lobby have convinced Americans that Iran is an enemy of the west in hopes of triggering a full-scale war with Iran.

A war with Iran would hold no benefit to the US, but would greatly benefit Israel as it would mean one more threat to the existence of Israel would be wiped out.

This would be another example of American lives, and most likely the lives of other western nations, being discarded for the safety of Israel.

In conclusion, if America wants what's best for its national security and the interests of its people, it should:

- End all aid to Israel

- Withdraw its troops from the Middle East

- Reallocate that money to solve America's own domestic problems"

Me: "Wow Siri, thanks!

I now know that Israel has a chokehold on the US and the sooner that chokehold is removed, the better!"

Link provided:

 

https://x.com/CensoredMen/status/1761621240387629525?t=s2_e2NnHwL3skO4VcXm2Fw&s=09

 

[Bkk Brian]

7 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

Link provided:

 

https://x.com/CensoredMen/status/1761621240387629525?t=s2_e2NnHwL3skO4VcXm2Fw&s=09

 

Typical from the Chef copy and paste from an unapproved dodgy X source. 

Edited February 25 by Bkk Brian

[CanadaSam]

I have no love for American military agression, epecially in cases like Libya, where the people actually loved Gaddafi, and he provided many things for his people including free education, medical, etc. and everything went to <deleted> after the States got involved, and the people are still suffering.

 

Likewise, Iraq, which was far better off before the US got involved and continued the "war" even after they had thrown them out of Kuwait, at which point they should have stopped, as point made, no agression against neighbors allowed.  But they continued, and now, the country and people are infinitely worse off than before.

 

BUT in the case of Hamas vs Israel, let's not forget that the agressors were the Palestinians, going into Israel, and killing innocent CIVILIANS mostly, and the point needed to be made, once again, that agression against your neighbors is simply not going to be tolerated, anywhere in the world.

 

Yes, the actual cause of the hatred was Israel taking over Palestinian land, and curtailing their freedoms, etc. not allowing them to have a recognized indepedent "state" etc. all of which could have been managed without difficulty, and would significantly lower tensions, which would have made this war never happen in the first place.

 

But make no mistake, it was the Palestinians who started the fight, I think knowing full well that they could not win, and it would be by and large their people who would suffer the brunt of the retaliation, and said, f*** it, lets go kill some Israeli civilians.

 

And now it's the Palestinian people who are paying the price, for mostly supporting Hamas.  What can you do? 

 

 

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[thaibeachlovers]

21 hours ago, Social Media said:

The new framework offers a more detailed outline, suggesting that Hamas would release approximately 40 hostages in exchange for a six-week ceasefire and the release of hundreds of Palestinian prisoners held by Israel. This proposal builds upon previous initiatives but provides a clearer roadmap for moving forward, enhancing the prospects of reaching a mutually acceptable agreement.

Without allowing as much aid and equipment into Gaza as needed a limited ceasefire is pointless. Gazans will continue to die anyway, from starvation and disease. Hamas would be foolish to accept any deal that does not allow aid in everywhere in Gaza, and IMO they would be foolish to allow the US to have any influence as the US has been shown to not be neutral where israel is concerned.

It's obvious to any that are not all in for israel that the US has colluded with israel to commit atrocities on the Gazans while saying the right words. Not to be trusted in any way shape or form, IMO.

[thaibeachlovers]

4 hours ago, CanadaSam said:

Yes, the actual cause of the hatred was Israel taking over Palestinian land, and curtailing their freedoms, etc. not allowing them to have a recognized indepedent "state" etc. all of which could have been managed without difficulty, and would significantly lower tensions, which would have made this war never happen in the first place.

You started off well, but lost the plot with the part I quoted. The US has been "managing" without difficulty to stop the Palestinans getting justice, or a state of their own for many decades, and for you to say "without difficulty" makes me suspect your true motives for that post.

Had the US actually wanted a Palestinian state, all they had to do was stop using the veto in the UN. That still hold today, when IMO the US is openly colluding with israel in the war crimes, by providing the bombs and bullets to carry out the war crimes. Like the Native Americans used to say in movies, "the white man speaks with forked tongue".

[thaibeachlovers]

10 hours ago, Jeff the Chef said:

In conclusion, if America wants what's best for its national security and the interests of its people, it should:

- End all aid to Israel

- Withdraw its troops from the Middle East

- Reallocate that money to solve America's own domestic problems"

Agree 100%.

[Bkk Brian]

If Hamas gives way to its delusional demands then a deal on hostages and prisoners exchange along with ceasefire can happen.

 

"Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu gathered ministers late on Saturday night after Israeli envoys returned from meeting US, Egyptian and Qatari mediators"

 

 

[Mike Lister]

Off topic, unattributed cut and pastes removed. If you post material from other sources, provide a link.

[simple1]

The document issued by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu overnight into Friday about postwar Gaza is unworthy of being called a diplomatic plan, let alone a vision for the future.

 

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-02-24/ty-article/.premium/netanyahus-ideas-for-postwar-gaza-are-aimed-at-strengthening-the-occupation/0000018d-dc0f-dc4b-a1cd-dd2f35200000?utm_source=mailchimp&utm_medium=Content&utm_campaign=daily-brief&utm_content=1b129b1ffb

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[Jeff the Chef]

State of play: Israeli Minister Benny Gantz said on Wednesday that "there are initial signs that point to a possibility of making progress towards a deal."

 

A senior Israeli official said that from what Israel knows, Hamas provided Egypt with an "oral response" to the Israeli position and agreed to "minor adjustments" in its demands. But the official said the new Hamas response doesn't point to a breakthrough.

 

Hamas has not publicly detailed this week's talks in Cairo.

 

The senior Israeli official said Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu still hasn't signed off on sending an Israeli delegation to Paris for the Friday meeting. The official stressed that some members of the negotiation team will not go to the meeting if Netanyahu orders them only to listen and not negotiate, as he did for the last meeting attended by an Israeli delegation earlier this month.

 

https://www.axios.com/2024/02/21/gaza-hostage-israel-hamas-cia-biden

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, Jeff the Chef said:

State of play: Israeli Minister Benny Gantz said on Wednesday that "there are initial signs that point to a possibility of making progress towards a deal."

 

A senior Israeli official said that from what Israel knows, Hamas provided Egypt with an "oral response" to the Israeli position and agreed to "minor adjustments" in its demands. But the official said the new Hamas response doesn't point to a breakthrough.

 

Hamas has not publicly detailed this week's talks in Cairo.

 

The senior Israeli official said Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu still hasn't signed off on sending an Israeli delegation to Paris for the Friday meeting. The official stressed that some members of the negotiation team will not go to the meeting if Netanyahu orders them only to listen and not negotiate, as he did for the last meeting attended by an Israeli delegation earlier this month.

 

https://www.axios.com/2024/02/21/gaza-hostage-israel-hamas-cia-biden

The senior Israeli official said Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu still hasn't signed off on sending an Israeli delegation to Paris for the Friday meeting.

 

That's not the state of play at all, that's last week and the Paris meeting has already finished, next stop is meeting in Qatar.

[ThaiFelix]

On 2/25/2024 at 10:04 AM, transam said:

More drivel from you.........🥴

A very intelligent arguement lol!