heybruce Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 18 hours ago, G_Money said: The vast majority of agricultural workers get H2A visas to work legally. Most illegal aliens are not picking lettuce. And why would they when Democrats/liberals give them everything they need on a silver platter. What specifically is being handed to illegal immigrants on a silver platter? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 8 hours ago, sqwakvfr said: No. But I lived in a small town in central California, Porterville, and it is a farming community. Immigration does not have a presence there. Farming has a had pass for generations by US Immigration. This does not mean the entire nations should be flooded with migrants. Not all Farm workers all illegal or “undocumented”. Many are on on guest worker visa’s. Crack down on the people hiring the illegal immigrants and you will eliminate the draw for the economic migrants. It's that simple. That won't happen because the farmers and small business owners who hire illegal immigrants generally vote Republican. The Republicans love scapegoating immigrants as the source of all the country's ills, but won't do anything realistic to prevent illegal immigration. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_Money Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 1 hour ago, placeholder said: And would the murders have happened from authorized aliens if no aliens were authorized to be in the country? You so far down the hole I can’t help you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted February 29 Author Share Posted February 29 Just now, G_Money said: You so far down the hole I can’t help you. Another comment empty of reason or evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_Money Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 1 hour ago, placeholder said: Since you've got nothing substantive to answer with, you make it personal. You've still got nothing. Not personal! He fits the description of both. Clueless and foreign. Facts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_Money Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 38 minutes ago, placeholder said: One has to be remarkably ignorant of history to to blame immigrants on the poor economic conditions of their country of birth. America is a nation of immigrants who mostly went there because the economies of their country was in poor shape. Are you claiming that these immigrants ruined the American economy? Yes, America is/was a land of legal immigration such as my father/grandfather and relatives who came in the front door at Ellis Island. No handouts given. Had to start working the mines of Scranton, PA ( didn’t Biden work the mine too?) before moving on to better jobs. No handouts, no free medical, no free hotels and food, no debit cards. Not the same as today’s illegal crossing the southern border. If you can’t figure that out, you’re hopeless. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigStar Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 (edited) On 2/28/2024 at 11:45 AM, placeholder said: Immigration has propelled the U.S. job market further than just about anyone expected, helping cement the country’s economic rebound from the pandemic as the most robust in the world. LOL. Washington Post, the propaganda mouthpiece for the Democratic party. Awfully worried now about Biden losing and they know immigration's a big reason he will. You poor boobs. What's really going on? Bidenflation higher than ever, clocking in at 17.3% -TIPP 5 Ugly Details the Biden Admin Won’t Tell You About the December Jobs Report Sen. Rick Scott: Jobs Reports Show Why Americans Can’t Trust Anything Biden Says on the Economy Biden’s Low Marks on the Economy Reflect Reality FACT CHECK: Setting the Record Straight on Bidenomics Edited February 29 by BigStar 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_Money Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 38 minutes ago, heybruce said: What specifically is being handed to illegal immigrants on a silver platter? Don’t be lazy. It’s all over the news. Of course probably not the news you want. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_Money Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 14 minutes ago, placeholder said: Another comment empty of reason or evidence. The truth truly hurts, doesn’t it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bday Prang Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 17 minutes ago, placeholder said: One has to be remarkably ignorant of history to to blame immigrants on the poor economic conditions of their country of birth. America is a nation of immigrants who mostly went there because the economies of their country was in poor shape. Are you claiming that these immigrants ruined the American economy? No i am claiming that there are too many already and no more should be allowed to enter until the indigenous population is fully employed. Then any extras that are required should only be allowed in when they have successfully applied for a job in their own country and have all the paper work in order, it also should be ascertained that their presence will not be a burden on the infrastructure , ie schools, hospitals etc etc. When they are no longer required they should leave. I struggle to see what real benefits an army of fast food delivery men, or drug dealing gang members bring to any society, especially a society that has many indigenous citizens perfectly qualified and or experienced enough to undertake such activities themselves. Nobody should be allowed to enter and embark on a welfare funded existence. If these immigrants are not required, then move them on, I am sure there are plenty of places, often much closer to their original countries where they are, actually , really needed. Although if they went to those places they would actually have to do some work, and could not enjoy the easy life on welfare benefits which they are seeking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted February 29 Author Share Posted February 29 3 minutes ago, G_Money said: The truth truly hurts, doesn’t it! Now you're a mind reader, too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigStar Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 47 minutes ago, heybruce said: That won't happen because the farmers and small business owners who hire illegal immigrants generally vote Republican No, the gov't, local, city, state, Fed are paying billions now in welfare. Eric Adams even broached the idea of ending sanctuary status! WOT??? The point of all these undocumented Democratic voters is to ensure the dominance and power of The Party. Millions swelling the census rolls in Blue districts, meaning more representatives, a dependent class grateful to The Party, soon to be granted voting rights by The Party, and replacing all Republican majorities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_Money Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 8 minutes ago, placeholder said: Now you're a mind reader, too? You’re as easy to read as Mr CIA! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted February 29 Author Share Posted February 29 1 minute ago, Bday Prang said: No i am claiming that there are too many already and no more should be allowed to enter until the indigenous population is fully employed. Then any extras that are required should only be allowed in when they have successfully applied for a job in their own country and have all the paper work in order, it also should be ascertained that their presence will not be a burden on the infrastructure , ie schools, hospitals etc etc. When they are no longer required they should leave. I struggle to see what real benefits an army of fast food delivery men, or drug dealing gang members bring to any society, especially a society that has many indigenous citizens perfectly qualified and or experienced enough to undertake such activities themselves. Nobody should be allowed to enter and embark on a welfare funded existence. If these immigrants are not required, then move them on, I am sure there are plenty of places, often much closer to their original countries where they are, actually , really needed. Although if they went to those places they would actually have to do some work, and could not enjoy the easy life on welfare benefits which they are seeking. First off, you're denying what you claimed earlier which was this: "if all these illegal immigrants are so industrious and hardworking, why are their own original countries so economically deprived? Why are such valuable assets able to leave their home countries so easily in the first place ?" So trying owning up to your falsehood instead of denying it. You may not see much value in what fast food delivery men offer society, but what about the people who plant and harvest America's produce, tend America's dairies, and staff its meat processing plants. And as for fast food delivery, delivery service has become crucial to large segments of the American restaurant industry which contributes close to 1 trillion dollars to American GDP. As for drug dealers, given the demand and economic opportunity, basic laws of supply and demand tell us there will no shortage of salespeople whether native or foreign born. Right. All those people working in jobs native born Americans won't do, are in the US to try and get on welfare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted February 29 Author Share Posted February 29 1 minute ago, G_Money said: You’re as easy to read as Mr CIA! More empty nonsense from you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sqwakvfr Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 56 minutes ago, heybruce said: What specifically is being handed to illegal immigrants on a silver platter? California will welcome the new year by becoming the first state to offer health insurance for all undocumented immigrants. Starting Jan. 1, all undocumented immigrants, regardless of age, will qualify for Medi-Cal, California's version of the federal Medicaid program for people with low incomes. Previously, undocumented immigrants were not qualified to receive comprehensive health insurance but were allowed to receive emergency and pregnancy-related services under Medi-Cal as long as they met eligibility requirements, including income limits and California residency in 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted February 29 Author Share Posted February 29 2 minutes ago, BigStar said: No, the gov't, local, city, state, Fed are paying billions now in welfare. Eric Adams even broached the idea of ending sanctuary status! WOT??? The point of all these undocumented Democratic voters is to ensure the dominance and power of The Party. Millions swelling the census rolls in Blue districts, meaning more representatives, a dependent class grateful to The Party, soon to be granted voting rights by The Party, and replacing all Republican majorities. Just out of curiosity, do you think that the 2020 election was stolen too? Or is this your only venture into batsh*t conspiracy theorizing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_Money Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 5 minutes ago, placeholder said: More empty nonsense from you. You responded didn’t you? Could not of been that empty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigStar Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 (edited) 6 minutes ago, placeholder said: Just out of curiosity, do you think that the 2020 election was stolen too? Do you agree with Hillary that the 2016 election was stolen from her? 6 minutes ago, placeholder said: Or is this your only venture into batsh*t conspiracy theorizing? Complex Question fallacy. Unable to think logically of course. Common sense is just so hard to argue with, which is why Biden is losing, despite the vast resources of the State, media, tech, military-industrial complex propagandizing, censoring, and running interference. Edited February 29 by BigStar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post G_Money Posted February 29 Popular Post Share Posted February 29 5 minutes ago, placeholder said: Just out of curiosity, do you think that the 2020 election was stolen too? Or is this your only venture into batsh*t conspiracy theorizing? There you go again. Changing the subject when cornered. Why not start a new thread about the election. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted February 29 Author Share Posted February 29 Just now, G_Money said: You responded didn’t you? Could not of been that empty. You mean pointing out its emptiness means it's not empty? You got any actual reasoning to back that assertion up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted February 29 Author Share Posted February 29 1 minute ago, BigStar said: Do you agree with Hillary that the 2016 election was stolen from her? Complex Question fallacy. Unable to think logically of course. Maybe in an alternative universe Hillary claimed that she actually won the electoral vote and that a conspiracy by government officials denied her her rightful victory. Not so much in this one. You've got nothing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernRyland Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 If America imports the entire population of India think of how much GDP that would produce! I can't think of a single reason why this wouldn't be a great idea. 💩 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bday Prang Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 So what all these b/s statistics by all these b/s institutes are trying to have us believe is that all these illegals, intending or attempting to relocate are nothing other than an international emergency volunteer squad, currently on standby, just waiting to be told where their economy saving skills are needed next. Their only purpose in life being to save the developed world from economic disaster, and such is their dedication to their cause, that even muslims are willing to put their inherent dislike of the west on hold , in order to assist in the saving of our economies. despite the ever present threat of islamophobia We should all be eternally grateful that they still agree to come . and wouldn't it be just terrible if they all decided to pack up and go home 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted February 29 Author Share Posted February 29 Just now, NorthernRyland said: If America imports the entire population of India think of how much GDP that would produce! I can't think of a single reason why this wouldn't be a great idea. 💩 Well, while it's touching in a way for you to confess to your own mental incapacity, I don't know why you're sharing it with us here. Are you looking for some kind of remediation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_Money Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 (edited) 7 minutes ago, placeholder said: You mean pointing out its emptiness means it's not empty? You got any actual reasoning to back that assertion up? Unlike you I don’t need a “stat sheet” to point out common sense. I know scientists have a hard time grasping that concept. Edited February 29 by G_Money 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigStar Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 1 minute ago, placeholder said: Maybe in an alternative universe Hillary claimed that she actually won the electoral vote and that a conspiracy by government officials denied her her rightful victory. Not so much in this one. You've got nothing. Oh, so you DO still believe it. LOL. From your own fave source. Stolen's stolen. 🙂 Hillary Clinton says the 2016 election was ‘stolen’ from her Do you still believe all these, too? Stolen, rigged and illegitimate: Democrats’ long history of objecting to election results 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted February 29 Author Share Posted February 29 1 minute ago, Bday Prang said: So what all these b/s statistics by all these b/s institutes are trying to have us believe is that all these illegals, intending or attempting to relocate are nothing other than an international emergency volunteer squad, currently on standby, just waiting to be told where their economy saving skills are needed next. Their only purpose in life being to save the developed world from economic disaster, and such is their dedication to their cause, that even muslims are willing to put their inherent dislike of the west on hold , in order to assist in the saving of our economies. despite the ever present threat of islamophobia We should all be eternally grateful that they still agree to come . and wouldn't it be just terrible if they all decided to pack up and go home Clearly, your comments betray no understanding of the the economic laws of supply and demand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted February 29 Author Share Posted February 29 2 minutes ago, G_Money said: Unlike you I don’t need a “stat sheet” to point out common sense. I know scientists have a hard time grasping that concept. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placeholder Posted February 29 Author Share Posted February 29 2 minutes ago, BigStar said: Oh, so you DO still believe it. LOL. From your own fave source. Stolen's stolen. 🙂 Hillary Clinton says the 2016 election was ‘stolen’ from her Do you still believe all these, too? Stolen, rigged and illegitimate: Democrats’ long history of objecting to election results a sound clip that lasts a few seconds is your idea of good evidence. It is to laugh. As for the rest, neither Clinton or Abrams claimed actual conspiratorial election fraud. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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