Popular Post Social Media Posted February 29 Popular Post Share Posted February 29 Putin Warns of NATO Aggression and Nuclear Conflict Amid Ukraine Crisis In a gripping annual state-of-the-nation speech, Russian President Vladimir Putin issued a stark warning against what he perceives as NATO's encroaching threat and potential aggression towards Russia. Putin's address touched on a range of topics, from the ongoing war in Ukraine to Russia's global standing and the prospect of dialogue with the United States. However, his most alarming assertions centered on the perceived military provocations by Western nations and the looming specter of nuclear conflict. Putin's rhetoric underscored Russia's heightened sense of vulnerability following NATO's expansion, particularly with the inclusion of Sweden and Finland. He accused NATO forces of preparing to strike Russian territory and cautioned against any such aggression, emphasizing that Russia possesses weapons capable of targeting Western nations. The mere suggestion of NATO sending ground troops to Ukraine elicited a dire warning from Putin, who hinted at the potential use of nuclear weapons in response to perceived threats. Visibly incensed, Putin invoked historical parallels, warning Western leaders to heed the lessons of failed invasions into Russia's territory by figures such as Adolf Hitler and Napoleon Bonaparte. He cautioned that any conflict with Russia could have catastrophic consequences, far exceeding past conflicts in scale and devastation. Putin's address also addressed accusations of Russophobia and dismissed claims of Russian intentions to attack Ukraine, maintaining that such assertions were baseless. Amid mounting tensions, Putin expressed Russia's readiness for dialogue with the United States on strategic stability but rejected any attempts to coerce Russia into negotiations. While Putin's speech primarily focused on geopolitical concerns, he also addressed domestic issues, including Russia's demographic challenges and economic performance. Proposing measures to support large families and stimulate population growth, Putin emphasized the importance of addressing Russia's low birth rate. Additionally, he asserted Russia's position as one of the world's largest economic powers, highlighting the country's continued economic growth and resilience. Putin's address, delivered ahead of an impending presidential election, serves as a sobering reminder of the escalating tensions between Russia and Western nations. As geopolitical dynamics continue to evolve, Putin's warnings of aggression and nuclear conflict underscore the urgent need for diplomatic engagement and de-escalation efforts to prevent a catastrophic confrontation. 01.03.24 Source 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 I personally doubt it but what I don’t doubt is Putin attacking a nato aligned country notice the (leaked) Russian docs,then this of course this is just a simple lay person’s opinion but I wouldent put it past him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post zhounan Posted February 29 Popular Post Share Posted February 29 (edited) It's evident like the sun in the morning that NATO was preparing to attack Russia since years. Edited February 29 by zhounan 3 1 1 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tug Posted February 29 Popular Post Share Posted February 29 4 minutes ago, zhounan said: It's evident like the sun in the morning that NATO was preparing to attack Russia since years. Nope nato exists because of the threat Russia is to the world order as amply demonstrated by Mr Putin’s criminal war of conquest in Ukraine 1 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Emdog Posted March 1 Popular Post Share Posted March 1 2 hours ago, Tug said: Nope nato exists because of the threat Russia is to the world order as amply demonstrated by Mr Putin’s criminal war of conquest in Ukraine Need to go back to end of WW2: NATO was formed to stand up against USSR taking control of lands soviet armed forces went thru while beating Germany. They didn't withdraw, didn't allow self rule unlike return to self government in Western Europe. Now Putin is complaining because formerly neutral countries Sweden and Finland realize hoping Putin will honor treaties is just a pipe dream so for own survival join NATO. If Putin hadn't illegally invaded and grabbed sovereign Ukraine territory, those countries would no doubt still be neutral. Ukraine should have kept a few nukes, rather than trusting Russia to honor treaty guaranteeing Ukraine's borders. 2 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Well done Napoleon - see what you did? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post heybruce Posted March 1 Popular Post Share Posted March 1 9 hours ago, zhounan said: It's evident like the sun in the morning that NATO was preparing to attack Russia since years. It's only evident to paranoid inhabitants of propaganda echo chambers. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 4 minutes ago, nauseus said: Well done Napoleon - see what you did? If you are referring to the invasion of Russia/USSR, has anyone done that since Hitler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 (edited) Just now, heybruce said: If you are referring to the invasion of Russia/USSR, has anyone done that since Hitler? No, just the latest stupidity from Macron. Edited March 1 by nauseus 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tropicalevo Posted March 1 Popular Post Share Posted March 1 9 hours ago, zhounan said: It's evident like the sun in the morning that NATO was preparing to attack Russia since years. What's it like up there on the dark side of the moon? 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post candide Posted March 1 Popular Post Share Posted March 1 9 hours ago, zhounan said: It's evident like the sun in the morning that NATO was preparing to attack Russia since years. Sure. That's why the US had downsized its presence in Europe since the end of the cold was, and European NATO countries had reduced their defense budget below 2% of GDP! 😀 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post transam Posted March 1 Popular Post Share Posted March 1 Putin invades a neighbour, targeting and killing civilians, now I would have thought Heir Putin was well aware of the Hornets nest he was diving into. So it's a bit late now blubbering about NATO. He should start worrying about the thoughts and feelings of the Russian populace, regarding the complete cock-up he's made for them and the country......🥴 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 9 hours ago, zhounan said: It's evident like the sun in the morning that NATO was preparing to attack Russia since years. You've been listening to too much Putin waffle, the land grab venture has cost Russia dear....... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 6 hours ago, candide said: Sure. That's why the US had downsized its presence in Europe since the end of the cold was, and European NATO countries had reduced their defense budget below 2% of GDP! 😀 Reduced? The laggards were never close to 2% - many still aren't. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 11 hours ago, Tropicalevo said: What's it like up there on the dark side of the moon? A military without a war is a pointless organisation. Even more importantly, without a war there is no chance for the officers to get medals and advance their careers. I was in a military both during a time of war and a time without. The time with a war was in a military with purpose and a mission, but after it was over and it became a peace time military it was not a "happy" place to be as it slowly rotated into the dark orifice, and I was not unhappy to be bidding it goodbye. While the first part of the experience was rewarding, I never regretted leaving what it became. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 8 hours ago, nauseus said: Reduced? The laggards were never close to 2% - many still aren't. How was it during the cold War? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Interesting doings in RT about a leaked German military discussion about how to take out the Crimean bridge. It's RT, so I take it with a grain of salt. But knowing what the other side is thinking is never a bad idea. It'll be more interesting to see how the Germans spin the leaked call. So far, their response hasn't been a denial. Just a promise to find out how the information leaked. It's all on RT for those who are not curiosity challenged... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 3 hours ago, candide said: How was it during the cold War? Do tell. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayC Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 7 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: A military without a war is a pointless organisation. Even more importantly, without a war there is no chance for the officers to get medals and advance their careers. I was in a military both during a time of war and a time without. The time with a war was in a military with purpose and a mission, but after it was over and it became a peace time military it was not a "happy" place to be as it slowly rotated into the dark orifice, and I was not unhappy to be bidding it goodbye. While the first part of the experience was rewarding, I never regretted leaving what it became. So what point are you trying to make? If we do away with war then the nations of the world can disband their militaries? A lovely thought but imo unrealistic. Alternatively given that in your opinion, the military aren't happy unless there is a war going on, the world should be permanently at war in order to satisfy the military? So that's your justification for Putin's invasion of Ukraine: He was only trying to appease the Russian military. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 32 minutes ago, nauseus said: Do tell. No problem! 😀 During the Cold War, defence spending for NATO Allies (even putting the United States aside) routinely averaged more than 3% of GDP, with some significant variation over time, but rarely falling below 2%. In the post-Cold War era, there was a first significant drop in the early 1990s and a further 20% decrease roughly 20 years later (including a reduction of the NATO command structure) following the global financial crisis of 2008. https://www.nato.int/docu/review/articles/2023/07/03/defence-spending-sustaining-the-effort-in-the-long-term/index.html 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 5 minutes ago, candide said: No problem! 😀 During the Cold War, defence spending for NATO Allies (even putting the United States aside) routinely averaged more than 3% of GDP, with some significant variation over time, but rarely falling below 2%. In the post-Cold War era, there was a first significant drop in the early 1990s and a further 20% decrease roughly 20 years later (including a reduction of the NATO command structure) following the global financial crisis of 2008. https://www.nato.int/docu/review/articles/2023/07/03/defence-spending-sustaining-the-effort-in-the-long-term/index.html I just new you'd be happy. But bear in mind that we are effectively in a new cold war now, even warm. Ukraine is hot but not part of NATO, although billions of additional $ in money and equipment have been sent, but again the vast bulk of that assistance has come from the USA. The Cold War was a different era, defending against the threat of attack from the multi-state Soviet Union - the spending then does not really apply to the present. This 2% NATO spending agreement originated in 2006 and was reconfirmed in 2014, but ten years later, more than half of NATO members are still delinquent. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 On 3/1/2024 at 12:51 AM, zhounan said: It's evident like the sun in the morning that NATO was preparing to attack Russia since years. 4 minutes ago, nauseus said: I just new you'd be happy. But bear in mind that we are effectively in a new cold war now, even warm. Ukraine is hot but not part of NATO, although billions of additional $ in money and equipment have been sent, but again the vast bulk of that assistance has come from the USA. The Cold War was a different era, defending against the threat of attack from the multi-state Soviet Union - the spending then does not really apply to the present. This 2% NATO spending agreement originated in 2006 and was reconfirmed in 2014, but ten years later, more than half of NATO members are still delinquent. Don't forget to what I was initially replying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 22 minutes ago, candide said: Don't forget to what I was initially replying. I didn't but don't forget that it really isn't relevant to this topic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 6 minutes ago, nauseus said: I didn't but don't forget that it really isn't relevant to this topic. Then why did you reply? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NativeBob Posted March 2 Popular Post Share Posted March 2 Dah! NATO was always prepating to attack Russia. The only existence of NATO is to attack small countries and threat nuclear doom. Otherwise it is completely useless organisation. 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 11 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: A military without a war is a pointless organisation. Even more importantly, without a war there is no chance for the officers to get medals and advance their careers. I was in a military both during a time of war and a time without. The time with a war was in a military with purpose and a mission, but after it was over and it became a peace time military it was not a "happy" place to be as it slowly rotated into the dark orifice, and I was not unhappy to be bidding it goodbye. While the first part of the experience was rewarding, I never regretted leaving what it became. You don't understand deterrence? Wow! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post heybruce Posted March 2 Popular Post Share Posted March 2 1 hour ago, NativeBob said: Dah! NATO was always prepating to attack Russia. The only existence of NATO is to attack small countries and threat nuclear doom. Otherwise it is completely useless organisation. It seems that the only things you think you know about NATO are all wrong. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NativeBob Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 23 hours ago, heybruce said: It seems that the only things you think you know about NATO are all wrong. Wow! how did you come to this conclusion? Can read mind? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 On 3/2/2024 at 6:59 AM, NativeBob said: Dah! NATO was always prepating to attack Russia. The only existence of NATO is to attack small countries and threat nuclear doom. Otherwise it is completely useless organisation. Not sure Putin would agree that Russia is a small country! Ok, I know It's GDP is around the same level as Italy. 😁 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ozimoron Posted March 3 Popular Post Share Posted March 3 6 minutes ago, candide said: Not sure Putin would agree that Russia is a small country! Ok, I know It's GDP is around the same level as Italy. 😁 Mostly all on the back of oil and gas which is precisely why he wants to annexe Ukraine as it has a lot of resources. Without Ukraine, Russia's economy is toast. 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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