Israel is at War - General discussion (pt3)

[Neeranam]

 More attacks on safe zones 🤔

 

At least 42 Palestinians have been killed by Israeli attacks on the Shati refugee camp and the Tuffah neighbourhood in Gaza

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2024/6/22/israel-war-on-gaza-live-hospital-overwhelmed-with-victims-from-camp-attack

[Bkk Brian]

3 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

 More attacks on safe zones 🤔

 

At least 42 Palestinians have been killed by Israeli attacks on the Shati refugee camp and the Tuffah neighbourhood in Gaza

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2024/6/22/israel-war-on-gaza-live-hospital-overwhelmed-with-victims-from-camp-attack

How many were terrorists?

[Nick Carter icp]

29 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

 More attacks on safe zones 🤔

 

At least 42 Palestinians have been killed by Israeli attacks on the Shati refugee camp and the Tuffah neighbourhood in Gaza

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2024/6/22/israel-war-on-gaza-live-hospital-overwhelmed-with-victims-from-camp-attack

 

   The Israeli military said warplanes had struck two Hamas military infrastructure sites and it would provide more details later.

[Nick Carter icp]

31 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

 More attacks on safe zones 🤔

 

   Its not  Safe zone for Hamas terrorists to hide , Hamas hiding there will just cause the location to be bombed 

[coolcarer]

39 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

 More attacks on safe zones 🤔

 

At least 42 Palestinians have been killed by Israeli attacks on the Shati refugee camp and the Tuffah neighbourhood in Gaza

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2024/6/22/israel-war-on-gaza-live-hospital-overwhelmed-with-victims-from-camp-attack

Have you found out how many Thais are hostage yet?
 

There are 8 AMERICAN citizens being  held hostage in Gaza. 

5 of them are alive. 

3 of them are dead. 

🇺🇸Edan Alexander

🇺🇸Itay Chen

🇺🇸Sagui Dekel-Chen 

🇺🇸Hersh Goldberg-Polin

🇺🇸Gadi Haggai

🇺🇸Judith Weinstein Haggai

🇺🇸Omer Neutra

🇺🇸Keith Siegel

https://x.com/OliLondonTV/status/1803903025762664784

Edited June 22 by coolcarer

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[Neeranam]

Tens of thousands of protesters waving Israeli flags and chanting slogans against Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s government rallied in Tel Aviv Saturday, demanding new elections and the return of captives held in Gaza.

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/6/22/all-of-the-rats-in-the-knesset-mass-anti-war-protest-in-israel

[Neeranam]

Gaza's health ministry said that 101 Palestinians were killed in Israeli attacks in the past 24 hours, bringing the total to 37,551 people killed in the enclave since 7 October.

 

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-kills-dozens-palestinians-two-massacres-gaza

[Bkk Brian]

The "monsters" still holding Naama on her 20th birthday. 

 

 

 

Heartbreaking letter to Israeli hostage Naama Levy from her mother on her 20th birthday

 

Dear Naama,

This is a letter no mother should ever have to write to her daughter. Today is your 20th birthday. You should be celebrating this occasion surrounded by friends and family. Instead, you are enduring your 260th day as a hostage in Gaza surrounded by terrorists. Ever since your abduction, we have been working relentlessly and in every way possible to bring you home. Every day without you is a day without air. The uncertainty and dread I experience is suffocating, and each passing day that you are not with us feels like an eternity. We will not stop fighting for you until you are home. 

Naama, the images of your abduction broadcast to the world are images that I cannot unsee. Your bloodied sweatpants. Your handcuffed hands. The monster dragging you by the hair and forcing you into a car. Where that car took you and what’s happened to you since, the mind wanders down a cruel, dark path. It’s too much for a mother to bear. 

 

More in the link..........

https://nypost.com/2024/06/22/world-news/heartbreaking-letter-to-hostage-naama-levy-from-her-mother

 

Today Naama Levy turns 20 years old in captivity. She has spent 259 days as a hostage. Her mother Dr. Ayelet Levy Shachar, 50, released a poignant message on her birthday. 

“When I close my eyes, I see you in front of me smiling. Do you see me? Every day I sit with my thoughts and am overcome by unspeakable anguish and pain. I ask myself, how did we reach this point? And today that pain is even sharper.”

 

 

https://x.com/Ron_Prosor/status/1804514687461290311

 

[Jeff the Chef]

1 hour ago, Bkk Brian said:

The "monsters" still holding Naama on her 20th birthday. 

 

 

 

Heartbreaking letter to Israeli hostage Naama Levy from her mother on her 20th birthday

 

Dear Naama,

This is a letter no mother should ever have to write to her daughter. Today is your 20th birthday. You should be celebrating this occasion surrounded by friends and family. Instead, you are enduring your 260th day as a hostage in Gaza surrounded by terrorists. Ever since your abduction, we have been working relentlessly and in every way possible to bring you home. Every day without you is a day without air. The uncertainty and dread I experience is suffocating, and each passing day that you are not with us feels like an eternity. We will not stop fighting for you until you are home. 

Naama, the images of your abduction broadcast to the world are images that I cannot unsee. Your bloodied sweatpants. Your handcuffed hands. The monster dragging you by the hair and forcing you into a car. Where that car took you and what’s happened to you since, the mind wanders down a cruel, dark path. It’s too much for a mother to bear. 

 

More in the link..........

https://nypost.com/2024/06/22/world-news/heartbreaking-letter-to-hostage-naama-levy-from-her-mother

 

Today Naama Levy turns 20 years old in captivity. She has spent 259 days as a hostage. Her mother Dr. Ayelet Levy Shachar, 50, released a poignant message on her birthday. 

“When I close my eyes, I see you in front of me smiling. Do you see me? Every day I sit with my thoughts and am overcome by unspeakable anguish and pain. I ask myself, how did we reach this point? And today that pain is even sharper.”

 

 

https://x.com/Ron_Prosor/status/1804514687461290311

 

 

Happy Birthday, Naama

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Additional history lesson posts removed

[Sheryl]

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[Bkk Brian]

Another weapon supply route smashed. The house of cards keeps crashing

 

Israeli drone strike kills Hamas ‘weapons supplier’ 25 miles inside Lebanon

The IDF said Ghatma was responsible for supplying weapons to Hamas and al Jama’a al-Islamiyya, an Egyptian terrorist group, in Lebanon and had been targeted for advancing attacks against Israel.
Conflict has been escalating along Israel’s northern border with Lebanon in recent months, stoking fears of a wider regional war.
In Gaza, the Israeli military said in a statement that “IDF fighter jets struck two Hamas military infrastructure sites in the area of Gaza City.”

https://archive.ph/wer3T

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/06/22/israel-drone-kills-hamas-terrorist-lebanon-bombs-gaza-city/

 

 

Edited June 23 by Bkk Brian

[Neeranam]

Perhaps those supporting Israel's 'action', for better a word, don't understand the scale of how Palestinian lives are going to be affected for the next 50 years, and generations to come.

 

Save the Children: Up to 21,000 Palestinian children missing in Gaza

 

They include 4,000 who are likely trapped under the rubble and presumed dead and 17,000 who are unaccompanied and separated from their families, the charity said.

 

https://www.middleeasteye.net/live-blog/live-blog-update/save-children-21000-palestinian-children-missing-gaza?nid=373676&topic=Israel%27s%20war%20on%20Gaza&fid=519981

[Bkk Brian]

Nice, more dismantling of Hamas

 

The IDF says it has raided and demolished a Hamas training complex in the Tel Sultan neighborhood of Rafah in the southern Gaza Strip.

The so-called Abu Said outpost, belonging to Hamas's Tel Sultan Battalion, was captured by the 401st Armored Brigade.

The IDF says that at the Hamas base, troops located the office of the commander of the Tel Sultan Battalion, Mahmoud Hamdan, as well as a weapons depot and several tunnel shafts.

The tunnels are being investigated and demolished, the army says.

Also in the outpost, the IDF says troops raided the office of Yasser Natat, a Hamas commander responsible for the Rafah Brigade's rocket fire on Israel and troops in Gaza.

The 401st Brigade raided a separate training site in the area, where weapons, additional tunnels, and intelligence materials were found, the military adds.

 

 

[Jeff the Chef]

War on Gaza: Netanyahu rejects permanent ceasefire plan
Families of captives ‘strongly condemn’ premier and accuse him of walking back from previous Israeli proposal

 

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has said he is open to a “partial deal” with Hamas that allows him to continue the war on Gaza after some of the captives are released.  

A deal that permanently ends the war was not an option until Hamas is “eliminated,” he told Channel 14 on Sunday. 

Eliminating Hamas is a goal believed unachievable by the Israeli military and many experts.

 

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/war-gaza-netanyahu-rejects-permanent-ceasefire-outline

[coolcarer]

Needs troops for the new major front against Hezbollah terrorists

 

Intense fighting in Rafah near end, says Netanyahu

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has said the "intense phase" of fighting in Rafah in southern Gaza is nearly over, but that this does not mean that the war is coming to an end.
He said the war would continue until Hamas was completely driven from power.
He added that the Israeli military would soon be able to redeploy troops to the border with Lebanon, where exchanges of fire with Hezbollah have been escalating.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpvvvkxpxwno

[Bkk Brian]

Too graphic to show but in the link:

 

The families of Hersh Goldberg-Polin (23), Or Levy (33), and Eliya Cohen (26) have authorized the release of new footage showing their loved ones' abduction. The three were kidnapped from a field shelter after fleeing the NOVA Festival in Re'im. They remain in Hamas captivity. 

https://x.com/bringhomenow/status/1805270423980179728

 

[thaibeachlovers]

20 hours ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has said he is open to a “partial deal” with Hamas that allows him to continue the war on Gaza after some of the captives are released.  

A deal that permanently ends the war was not an option until Hamas is “eliminated,” he told Channel 14 on Sunday. 

Eliminating Hamas is a goal believed unachievable by the Israeli military and many experts.

 

He must be terrified of being sent to jail once the fighting ends, IMO.

He must know that Hamas can't be "eliminated" as any sensible person knows, given the hundreds of potential recruits being created every day by israeli atrocities.

IMO by refusing to agree to a ceasefire he is saying he wants eternal war, or the eradication of all Gazans.

 

I guess the length of time he has left as PM is now down to Biden, as IMO only he has the power to force netanyahu to resign. He's ignoring his military advice, and his ultra right wing will support him, despite the demonstrations by israelis.

[Jeff the Chef]

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

He must be terrified of being sent to jail once the fighting ends, IMO.

He must know that Hamas can't be "eliminated" as any sensible person knows, given the hundreds of potential recruits being created every day by israeli atrocities.

IMO by refusing to agree to a ceasefire he is saying he wants eternal war, or the eradication of all Gazans.

 

I guess the length of time he has left as PM is now down to Biden, as IMO only he has the power to force netanyahu to resign. He's ignoring his military advice, and his ultra right wing will support him, despite the demonstrations by israelis.

 

Exactly the thought I had, to much bad press to carry on in Gaza so let's all shift up the north and have a bash at Hezbollah/Lebanon, best case scenario, the USA/Iran  get involved and the forever war goes on ad-infinitum, he stays in power.

 

I seriously think that Israel may regret doing that, even the USA have warned against it.

 

BEIRUT (AP) — The prospect of a full-scale war between Israel and Lebanon’s Hezbollah militant group terrifies people on both sides of the border, but some see it as an inevitable fallout from Israel’s ongoing war against Hamas in Gaza, particularly as cease-fire negotiations have faltered.

 

https://apnews.com/article/lebanon-israel-hezbollah-gaza-war-iran-conflict-260c308e5e6f85d30d8ebd0352c6bcb3

[Bkk Brian]

Reminder that Hamas is holding a baby and toddler hostage. 

We will not rest until Kfir, Ariel and all of the hostages are home.

https://x.com/Israel/status/1804770983670116437

 

[Bkk Brian]

From the meeting in Washington Yesterday.

 

Secretary of Defense Lloyd J. Austin III

I underscored the high priority of securing the safe release of all hostages held captive by Hamas, including American citizens, and commended Minister Gallant for Israel's support for the comprehensive ceasefire and hostage proposal that it has offered, which President Biden outlined and the United Nations Security Council endorsed.

https://x.com/SecDef/status/1805728714820329854

 

[Bkk Brian]

Doctors Without Borders denies IDF accusation that slain employee was a terror operative

The medical charity Doctors Without Borders says it has no indication that one of its employees, who was killed in an Israeli airstrike in Gaza, was a terror operative as claimed by the Israel Defense Forces.

Israel said yesterday that it killed Fadi al-Wadiya, who it said was a “significant operative” in the Palestinian Islamic Jihad terror group. It said Al-Wadiya was involved in the group’s rocket arsenal, as well as in its electronics and chemistry know-how.

Doctors Without Borders, known by its French name Médecins Sans Frontières, says Israel has not provided evidence about its claim.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/doctors-without-borders-denies-idf-accusation-that-slain-employee-was-a-terror-operative/

 

 

Well this is awkward..................

 

https://x.com/HenMazzig/status/1806047584135356536

 

https://x.com/AvivaKlompas/status/1806050662666686933

 

[Neeranam]

 

 

 

 

Edited June 27 by Neeranam

[Bkk Brian]

18 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

 

 

 

 

State Of Palestine pushing their unverified Hamas figures, eagerly spread by yourself. 😒

 

https://x.com/IsraelinUSA/status/1806074959661277439

 

[Bkk Brian]

Maya Regev was shot, tortured, and kidnapped on October 7th. In her own words she says: "I am one of the lucky ones.”

120 hostages, including Americans, are still held and abused in Gaza.

 

[coolcarer]

Aaaah, oh well................lol

 

New EU sanctions list for Hamas financiers includes front companies based in Spain, Sudan

The European Union on Friday imposed asset freezes and visa bans on several firms and individuals accused of helping to finance Palestinian militant Islamist group Hamas, Brussels said.

The sanctions were the second round to be imposed by the EU on the Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad groups after their attack on Israel on October 7. 
Overall the bloc has so far blacklisted 12 individuals and three entities linked to the militants. Among the latest targets were three front companies used by key financier Hamza Abdelbasit to funnel funds to the group, including Spanish real estate firm Al Zawaya Group, and two others based in Sudan, an EU statement said.

https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20240628-new-eu-sanctions-list-for-hamas-financiers-includes-front-companies-based-in-spain-sudan

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Two posts containing links contravening community standards has been removed: @Neeranam

 

"Any alleged factual claims must be supported by a valid link to an approved credible source."

 

Both Lebanon based websites with no named owner or Journalists asking readers to send in articles is not a credible source.

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On 6/27/2024 at 5:47 AM, Bkk Brian said:

Doctors Without Borders denies IDF accusation that slain employee was a terror operative

The medical charity Doctors Without Borders says it has no indication that one of its employees, who was killed in an Israeli airstrike in Gaza, was a terror operative as claimed by the Israel Defense Forces.

Israel said yesterday that it killed Fadi al-Wadiya, who it said was a “significant operative” in the Palestinian Islamic Jihad terror group. It said Al-Wadiya was involved in the group’s rocket arsenal, as well as in its electronics and chemistry know-how.

Doctors Without Borders, known by its French name Médecins Sans Frontières, says Israel has not provided evidence about its claim.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/doctors-without-borders-denies-idf-accusation-that-slain-employee-was-a-terror-operative/

 

 

Well this is awkward..................

 

https://x.com/HenMazzig/status/1806047584135356536

 

https://x.com/AvivaKlompas/status/1806050662666686933

 

 

On 6/23/2024 at 10:29 PM, Bkk Brian said:

Another weapon supply route smashed. The house of cards keeps crashing

 

Israeli drone strike kills Hamas ‘weapons supplier’ 25 miles inside Lebanon

The IDF said Ghatma was responsible for supplying weapons to Hamas and al Jama’a al-Islamiyya, an Egyptian terrorist group, in Lebanon and had been targeted for advancing attacks against Israel.
Conflict has been escalating along Israel’s northern border with Lebanon in recent months, stoking fears of a wider regional war.
In Gaza, the Israeli military said in a statement that “IDF fighter jets struck two Hamas military infrastructure sites in the area of Gaza City.”

https://archive.ph/wer3T

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/06/22/israel-drone-kills-hamas-terrorist-lebanon-bombs-gaza-city/

 

 

 

On 6/24/2024 at 2:37 PM, Bkk Brian said:

Nice, more dismantling of Hamas

 

The IDF says it has raided and demolished a Hamas training complex in the Tel Sultan neighborhood of Rafah in the southern Gaza Strip.

The so-called Abu Said outpost, belonging to Hamas's Tel Sultan Battalion, was captured by the 401st Armored Brigade.

The IDF says that at the Hamas base, troops located the office of the commander of the Tel Sultan Battalion, Mahmoud Hamdan, as well as a weapons depot and several tunnel shafts.

The tunnels are being investigated and demolished, the army says.

Also in the outpost, the IDF says troops raided the office of Yasser Natat, a Hamas commander responsible for the Rafah Brigade's rocket fire on Israel and troops in Gaza.

The 401st Brigade raided a separate training site in the area, where weapons, additional tunnels, and intelligence materials were found, the military adds.

 

 

So much winning..and yet...

 

Israeli Generals, Low on Munitions, Want a Truce in Gaza

Israel’s top generals want to begin a cease-fire in Gaza even if it keeps Hamas in power for the time being, widening a rift between the military and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who has opposed a truce that would allow Hamas to survive the war.

The generals think that a truce would be the best way of freeing the roughly 120 Israelis still held, both dead and alive, in Gaza, according to interviews with six current and former security officials.

Underequipped for further fighting after Israel’s longest war in decades, the generals also think their forces need time to recuperate in case a land war breaks out against Hezbollah, the Lebanese militia that has been locked in a low-level fight with Israel since October, multiple officials said.

https://archive.ph/sDZM8

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/02/world/middleeast/israel-military-gaza-cease-fire.html

 

The article goes on to note that the generals now recognize that the 2 goals of defeating Hamas and rescuing the hostages are mutually incompatible.

It also relays the generals' concern that given Netanyahu's refusal either to occupy Gaza or turn governance over to alternative Palestinian leadership, the war could drag on indefinitely and continue to sap Israel's military strength.

 

But so what? After all, the IDF keeps on sharing with us the progress it has been making and will continue to make...maybe forever?