Far-right groups 'hijacking' demonstrations against asylum plans at RAF Scampton

[roo860]

2 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

He's just feeding the cows. These two "groups" are so small as to be irrelevant. Hardly any recent serious activity from either. 

 

The excerpt (below) from the UK Police, is about Patriotic Alternative, which is supposed to be the bigger group

 

 The overall impact of PA protests has been low, with very few instances of criminality and serious disruption reported at their events, the exception being counter protest and tensions between left wing protesters which contributed to a higher risk and policing concern associated with events. This is unlikely to change in the short term as the groups attempts to appeal to local communities, and dissociate from violence and criminality.

 

 Attendance at events was reported to be low to moderate, with between 50 to 100 persons at the majority of events, with sporadic interest in anti-immigration issues bolstering numbers, this included attendance from local groups and residents attending events in their area.

 

https://www.npcc.police.uk/SysSiteAssets/media/downloads/publications/disclosure-logs/operations-coordination-committee/2023/324-2023-npocc-sib-patriotic-alternative-group-assessment-febuary-2023-final-1_redacted.pdf

 

 

Meanwhile the Cenotaph gets defaced and Big Ben needs backing disco music.

 

In the meantime....save Scampton!

 

 

[Nick Carter icp]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

A housing requirement that could have been filled in the past 14 years but was not.

Certainly the tax receipts from 400,000 immigrant households could have helped pay for building more houses.

 

   There are other costs as well , its not as if all the immigrants tax payments can go towards just house building .

6 Million immigrants  from the E.U meant 6 million more rooms would be needed .

It wouldn't be feasible to built millions of new homes whilst constantly letting millions of new arrivals in 

[billd766]

4 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

The main point of historical note is that Scampton was the home of the famous 617 Squadron, RAF - the Dambusters. More recently the Red Arrows were based there. The MoD wants to close Scampton but others want to see the base and museum retained as a heritage centre. 

 

Sky News are just pushing this far-right nonsense out of all proportion. The photo in the story with the most people in it is not anywhere near Scampton! 

Save our Scampton for what? If some group wants to save ex RAF Scampton, then all they have to do, is buy the place from the MoD (at a discount and then the problem (and the cost) will be solved and belong to the new owners.

 

I doubt if the new owners will allow the immigrant housing plan to go ahead, which solves that problem, it saves the cost of running and keeping Scampton open, and there are oyhr ex RAF bases that can be used.

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29 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

A housing requirement that could have been filled in the past 14 years but was not.

Certainly the tax receipts from 400,000 immigrant households could have helped pay for building more houses.

Yeeeh, riiiiight...............

[RayC]

19 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   As there's about 4 million council homes , 11 % would be 400 000 Councils homes given to Eastern Europeans  , and that is quite a lot .

   400 000 properties is quite a lot 

 

No it doesn't.

 

The 'White Other' category includes Australasians, North Americans, South Americans, white Africans, white Asians as well as (other) white Europeans. Moreover, these figures are about occupancy. Many occupants will have been in their homes for years. I'd suggest that the number of social housing homes in the UK occupied by East Europeans is small.

 

In any event, the main reason for the shortage in social housing is that the stock of such housing is being reduced as such homes are sold or demolished and the number of social housing being built is insufficient to compensate for the loss.

[Nick Carter icp]

Just now, RayC said:

 

No it doesn't.

 

The 'White Other' category includes Australasians, North Americans, South Americans, white Africans, white Asians as well as (other) white Europeans. Moreover, these figures are about occupancy. Many occupants will have been in their homes for years. I'd suggest that the number of social housing homes in the UK occupied by East Europeans is small.

 

In any event, the main reason for the shortage in social housing is that the stock of such housing is being reduced as such homes are sold or demolished and the number of social housing being built is insufficient to compensate for the loss.

 

  Would you say that the six million Eastern European immigrants to the UK added to the UK housing shortage or alleviated the shortage of housing ?

[RayC]

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  Would you say that the six million Eastern European immigrants to the UK added to the UK housing shortage or alleviated the shortage of housing ?

 

I would say that inferring that there are six million East Europeans living in the UK is a vast exaggeration. Estimates put the number of nationals from all EU states at around 3.5 million so, to hazard a guess, the number of East Europeans currently in the UK is probably no more than 2 million or so. 

 

If there is a shortage of social housing stock and if net migration is positive, then it will almost certainly excabarate any problems.

 

However, the overwhelming majority of the Eastern Europeans who came to the UK did so to fill job vacancies and satisfy demand for services that couldn't be filled locally. If they had not done so, then the UK's economic growth would have shrunk. 

 

Eastern Europeans - or any other immigrants for that matter - don't decide UK government economic and/or housing policy. Consequently, they can't be blamed for the failure of successive UK governments to increase the amount of affordable housing available in the UK.

[Keep Right]

On 3/14/2024 at 9:10 AM, VocalNeal said:

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I also own a gas car, I guess that make me "right wing."