thaibeachlovers Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 4 hours ago, Srikcir said: Not a much as before human global civilizations. "To date (Jan. 2024), the ocean contains 90 percent of the heat from human-induced global warming, and the year 2022 was the warmest ever measured for the global ocean." https://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/faq/is-the-ocean-continuing-to-warm/ Please edit your first sentence to make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 2 hours ago, Dolf said: Where did Obama buy a house? Near the ocean of course. Not near the coast, on the coast right beside the sea. Now, you climate alarmists, convince me he thinks it's going to get flooded. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Undies Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 10 hours ago, JonnyF said: Science certainly doesn't know whether it is caused by humans. Of course, that is somewhat inconvenient for the socialists and elitists who want to use that theory to tax the population to death, regulate their behaviour and increase the power of the state, all while pretending to be more virtuous. BS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 8 hours ago, IAMHERE said: I'll bet the oceans have warmed up before. Not when there were humans to swim in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_Money Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 5 hours ago, Dolf said: And what year will this happen champ? I’m under the assumption that BM Danderman is the Global Warming Greenhouse Gas effect board Scientist. He should have a valid answer 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolf Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 10 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Not when there were humans to swim in it. Go to Hobart and swim. Report back how warm it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Just now, Dolf said: Go to Hobart and swim. Report back how warm it is. Tropical fish are moving south and atlantic crabs are moving north. Given that 90% of the surface of the earth is covered in ocean, thats a lot of heat required to raise the temp by even 0.1 degrees. The problem is that climate science deniers consider that apparently low numbers like 1 degree and 2 ppm are small numbers in the scheme of things. Just part of the overall disingenuous nature of their arguments. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolf Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 4 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Tropical fish are moving south and atlantic crabs are moving north. Given that 90% of the surface of the earth is covered in ocean, thats a lot of heat required to raise the temp by even 0.1 degrees. The problem is that climate science deniers consider that apparently low numbers like 1 degree and 2 ppm are small numbers in the scheme of things. Just part of the overall disingenuous nature of their arguments. Stop using cars then. Stop using the internet. You are ruining the planet. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolf Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Cult leader "new analysis by the National Center for Public Policy Research found that Gore's Tennessee home "guzzles more electricity in one year than the average American family uses in 21 years." https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/al-gores-climate-change-hypocrisy-is-as-big-as-his-energy-sucking-mansion/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 14 hours ago, Doc Undies said: BS What an intelligent comment. I do hope your posts going forward are equally insightful or you might get banned again and have to create yet another username 😃. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 14 hours ago, ozimoron said: Not when there were humans to swim in it. Which proves that climate change is not man made. Thanks for confirming 😄. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 4 minutes ago, JonnyF said: Which proves that climate change is not man made. Thanks for confirming 😄. Only to you my friend! Only to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 4 minutes ago, sirineou said: Only to you my friend! Only to you. Since logic appears not to be your strong point, allow me to simplify. The climate changed before there were humans. The climate changed after there were humans. You're welcome. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdey Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 20 hours ago, Dolf said: And what year will this happen champ? Five islands in the Pacific were already submerged by 2011, six more are on the way, being 20% under water at present. https://www.gviaustralia.com.au/blog/disappearing-land-5-pacific-islands/#:~:text=The last of the five,Islands searching for higher ground. https://www.france24.com/en/asia-pacific/20221124-pacific-islands-fight-for-existence-before-rising-sea-levels-swallow-them-up Some parts of Thailand are already being flooded: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-11/bangkok-is-sinking-residents-warn-rising-seas-will-swallow-city/102559364 But I guess a smart guy like you already knew that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 2 hours ago, Purdey said: Five islands in the Pacific were already submerged by 2011, six more are on the way, being 20% under water at present. https://www.gviaustralia.com.au/blog/disappearing-land-5-pacific-islands/#:~:text=The last of the five,Islands searching for higher ground. https://www.france24.com/en/asia-pacific/20221124-pacific-islands-fight-for-existence-before-rising-sea-levels-swallow-them-up Some parts of Thailand are already being flooded: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-11/bangkok-is-sinking-residents-warn-rising-seas-will-swallow-city/102559364 But I guess a smart guy like you already knew that. Is it your contention that sea levels are rising in the Pacific and Thailand, but not around New Zealand, as they sure ain't around NZ. As for Thailand, the only area I'm familiar with that has been flooding ( because other areas are not ) routinely is Bangkok, which has flooded at least since the 1980s, and that is because it is sinking, not the water rising. It's sinking because they pump too much groundwater out, but I'm sure you knew that. As for "global warming", I wish we had a bit in NZ as it's rather cold at night. I've had to start using the heater already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdey Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 28 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: Is it your contention that sea levels are rising in the Pacific and Thailand, but not around New Zealand, as they sure ain't around NZ. I have no contention other than it is well-known that some Pacific islands are disappearing. Perhaps before you make up anything else, read this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_level_rise_in_New_Zealand#:~:text=NZ Searise study findings 2022,-The results of&text=of ground levels.-,In some parts of Wellington%2C the land is subsiding by,100 year event in 2020. Subsidence and water rising go hand-in-hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 4 minutes ago, Purdey said: I have no contention other than it is well-known that some Pacific islands are disappearing. Perhaps before you make up anything else, read this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_level_rise_in_New_Zealand#:~:text=NZ Searise study findings 2022,-The results of&text=of ground levels.-,In some parts of Wellington%2C the land is subsiding by,100 year event in 2020. Subsidence and water rising go hand-in-hand. Sea level rise in NZ is in millimeters per year. I am unable to see any difference in sea level on the shore near where I live over the past 60 or so years. If it was obvious I have no doubt the woke NZ media would have seized on it to tell us that we are all doomed unless we pay more taxes and drive EVs. It's pretty obvious that if land subsides the water may flood it. I'm sure that some Pacific islands are sinking. Tectonic plate activity has not ceased simply because humans think it should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 2 hours ago, JonnyF said: Since logic appears not to be your strong point, allow me to simplify. The climate changed before there were humans. The climate changed after there were humans. You're welcome. No thank you please , It only makes me sneeze . Since logic appears not to be your strong point, allow me to simplify for you.. Just because something happened before there were humans. It does not mean that it is not happening now because of humans now. You're welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 3 hours ago, JonnyF said: Since logic appears not to be your strong point, allow me to simplify. The climate changed before there were humans. The climate changed after there were humans. You're welcome. LOL, you are so correct. Seems to be a lot of people out there that think humans are so special that we will be around forever, when it's more likely that we are just a passing species. It'll just be more ironic if we exterminate ourselves because we polluted too much and over populated the small area that is able to support human life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 3 minutes ago, sirineou said: No thank you please , It only makes me sneeze . Since logic appears not to be your strong point, allow me to simplify for you.. Just because something happened before there were humans. It does not mean that it is not happening now because of humans now. You're welcome. It may or may not be because of human activity, but it's irrelevant because there is no way we can change climate back, no matter how rich we make Elon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James105 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 18 minutes ago, sirineou said: No thank you please , It only makes me sneeze . Since logic appears not to be your strong point, allow me to simplify for you.. Just because something happened before there were humans. It does not mean that it is not happening now because of humans now. You're welcome. It's hubris to think that despite there being clear geological evidence that the planets climate has always been changing over millions of years, humans are solely responsible for it now. Where you can draw accurate correlations though is how much richer the richest tend to get when the gullible proles fall for another one of their money making schemes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 17 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: It may or may not be because of human activity, but it's irrelevant because there is no way we can change climate back, no matter how rich we make Elon. Au contraire, the plaent is in a natural cooling phase so if we stop burning fossil fuels the cooling will reverse the warming we see now. The issue is to stop burning fiossil fuels before we reach tipping points like cessation of the gulf stream currents which have a great effect on weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 1 minute ago, James105 said: It's hubris to think that despite there being clear geological evidence that the planets climate has always been changing over millions of years, humans are solely responsible for it now. Where you can draw accurate correlations though is how much richer the richest tend to get when the gullible proles fall for another one of their money making schemes. Your word for the week - rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James105 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 3 minutes ago, ozimoron said: Your word for the week - rate. Perhaps you should reflect on the story of King Canute and the tide and see if you can draw any lessons from that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 3 minutes ago, James105 said: Perhaps you should reflect on the story of King Canute and the tide and see if you can draw any lessons from that. Maybe you should enrrol in a science class and see if you can draw any lessons from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 19 minutes ago, James105 said: It's hubris to think that despite there being clear geological evidence that the planets climate has always been changing over millions of years, humans are solely responsible for it now. Where you can draw accurate correlations though is how much richer the richest tend to get when the gullible proles fall for another one of their money making schemes. Following the money usually works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozimoron Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said: Following the money usually works. The vast bulk of the money is coming from fossil fuel companies funding misinformation and ignorance. You'd do better to follow the science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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