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The UN Security Council on Monday passed a resolution demanding an immediate ceasefire for the month of Ramadan, the immediate and unconditional release of hostages and "the urgent need to expand the flow" of aid into Gaza. There were 14 votes in favour with the United States abstaining.

 

UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres said the resolution "must be implemented" to secure a ceasefire and the "immediate and unconditional release of all hostages".

 

HIGHLIGHTS

  • The UN Security Council adopts a resolution tabled by its 10 non-permanent members (E-10) demanding a ceasefire in Gaza during Ramadan, by a vote of 14 in favour to none against, with one abstention (United States)
  • Resolution 2728 also calls for the immediate release of hostages and for ensuring humanitarian access to Gaza
  • The Council rejected a Russia-proposed amendment that would have called for a permanent ceasefire
  • The US ambassador said her delegation “fully supports” the critical objectives of the draft
  • Algeria’s ambassador says the ceasefire will end “the bloodbath”
  • “This must be a turning point,” says the ambassador for the observer State of Palestine
  • The draft’s lack of condemnation of Hamas is “a disgrace”, says Israel’s ambassador

 

In the Security Council vote on Monday, the US abstained, while the remaining 14 members voted in favour. The US had previously blocked resolutions calling for a ceasefire, saying such a move would be wrong while delicate negotiations for a truce and hostage releases were continuing between Israel and Hamas.

 

But on Thursday it tabled its own draft, which for the first time called for a ceasefire, marking a hardening of its stance towards Israel.

US National Security Council spokesman John Kirby said the US' decision to let the resolution pass did not mean a "shift in our policy". He said the US backed a ceasefire but did not vote in favour of the resolution because the text did not condemn Hamas.

 

Speaking at a press briefing after the resolution was passed, Mr Kirby said: "We have been very clear, we have been very consistent in our support for a ceasefire as part of a hostage deal. That's how the hostage deal is structured, and the resolution acknowledges the ongoing talks."

 

United Kingdom Ambassador Barbara Woodward said her country had long been calling for an immediate humanitarian pause leading to a sustainable ceasefire without a return to destruction, fighting and loss of life as the fastest way to get hostages out and aid in.

That is what this resolution calls for and why the UK voted in favour of the text. "We regret that this resolution has not condemned the terrorist attacks perpetrated by Hamas on 7 October," she said, but it sets out the urgent demand for the unconditional release of all hostages.

 

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I am wondering whether we have any lawyers here who would know if the US keep providing arms that are used to slaughter civilians after this resolution is passed by UNSC (and ignored by Israel) does that put the US in legal jeopardy for war crimes?

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3 hours ago, Social Media said:

"We regret that this resolution has not condemned the terrorist attacks perpetrated by Hamas on 7 October," she said, but it sets out the urgent demand for the unconditional release of all hostages.

but never a condemnation from Britain of israel massacring thousands of children. I guess that might be a bit difficult when Britain has been colluding in it.

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20 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Which is why Hamas will likely refuse. They must know that any resolution without a permanent ceasefire, but with release of all hostages will only result in a far worse massacre once the hostages are released, and there is nothing to restrain the IDF. I could be wrong, but till they agree or don't, that is my opinion.

 

I suppose they were unable to include a permanent ceasefire because the US ( the land of the free, LOL ) would have vetoed it.

 

One wonders just how many dead children it will take for the US to do the right thing"

I'm guessing, but when polling suggests Biden is in for a hiding in November if he doesn't stop israel would be likely.

It is only Russia that wants a permanent cease fire, Russia is a morally corrupt country that should not have a say in what goes on in any other country, they are liars and by the latest shenanigans they have tortured the terrorist suspects said to be involved in the Moscow attack and cut an ear of one of them, but you'd sooner listen to Russia than the US, weird. 😩

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3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Which is why Hamas will likely refuse. They must know that any resolution without a permanent ceasefire, but with release of all hostages will only result in a far worse massacre once the hostages are released, and there is nothing to restrain the IDF. I could be wrong, but till they agree or don't, that is my opinion.

 

I suppose they were unable to include a permanent ceasefire because the US ( the land of the free, LOL ) would have vetoed it.

 

One wonders just how many dead children it will take for the US to do the right thing"

I'm guessing, but when polling suggests Biden is in for a hiding in November if he doesn't stop israel would be likely.

Yes of course you'd go with the Russian option. In the real world everybody else knows that terrorists should not be rewarded. The ceasefire ordered is for the current period left of Ramadan  about 2 weeks, plenty of time to surge humanitarian aid around and release all hostages.

 

Like you, Hamas don't seem to get this either, they've welcomed the resolution in one breath and then make a completely contradictory statement, They were ordered to release immediately with no pre conditions but said:

 

"Hamas welcomed the Security Council resolution, saying in a statement that it "affirms readiness to engage in immediate prisoner swaps on both sides."

Reuters no paywall

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5 hours ago, retarius said:

I am wondering whether we have any lawyers here who would know if the US keep providing arms that are used to slaughter civilians after this resolution is passed by UNSC (and ignored by Israel) does that put the US in legal jeopardy for war crimes?

 

   It wouldn't no, civilians dying in wars isn't a war crime 

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3 hours ago, Wobblybob said:

It is only Russia that wants a permanent cease fire, Russia is a morally corrupt country that should not have a say in what goes on in any other country, they are liars and by the latest shenanigans they have tortured the terrorist suspects said to be involved in the Moscow attack and cut an ear of one of them, but you'd sooner listen to Russia than the US, weird. 😩

 

   Now, just imagine the World outrage and condemnation if Israel paraded a Hamas terrorist with his ear cut off . If the IDF cut off a Hamas terrorists ear (and made him eat that ear by reports) and then paraded him if front of the cameras .

   There would be massive condemnation of Israel , but as its Russia , just a shrug of the shoulders 

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Hamas, making it clear what they really think.

 

Hamas tells mediators it’s ‘sticking to original position’ on demand for full ceasefire

Palestinian terror group Hamas said Monday night that it informed mediators that it will stick to its original position on demanding a permanent ceasefire, the withdrawal of Israeli troops from Gaza, a return of displaced Palestinians and a “real” exchange of “prisoners” — demands Israel has already rejected as delusional multiple times.

The Palestinian terror group’s statement came hours after the United Nations Security Council adopted a resolution demanding an immediate ceasefire in Gaza and a release of hostages taken on October 7

https://www.timesofisrael.com/hamas-tells-mediators-its-sticking-to-original-position-on-demand-for-full-ceasefire/

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35 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Now, just imagine the World outrage and condemnation if Israel paraded a Hamas terrorist with his ear cut off . If the IDF cut off a Hamas terrorists ear (and made him eat that ear by reports) and then paraded him if front of the cameras .

   There would be massive condemnation of Israel , but as its Russia , just a shrug of the shoulders 

The UN held a minutes silence for the Moscow terrorist attack, I cannot remember them doing the same for the 1200 Israeli massacred. No Jews, no news.🥴

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49 minutes ago, Danny Australia said:

The pariah state of Israel, already under scrutiny for alleged genocide, now finds itself fully isolated following the adoption of a UNSC resolution.

 

Numerous nations which rushed to defend Israel after 7 October are now actively disengaging from the actions of those deemed as war criminals in Tel Aviv. This includes measures such as suspending arms deals, reinstating funding for UNRWA, condemning the ongoing atrocities in Palestine, recognizing a Palestinian State, calling for an immediate ceasefire or casting dissenting votes against Israel at the UN.

 

Like a spoiled child, Israel is now throwing a tantrum turning against the US and refusing to send a delegation to discuss their widely condemned plan to invade heavily populated city of Rafah (A case of biting the hands that arms you). 

 

One can only anticipate the inevitable accusations of antisemitism that may befall Joe Biden, as they have for anyone else (including many of us on this forum) for daring to speak out against the ongoing live-streamed genocide.

Like a spoiled child, Israel is now throwing a tantrum turning against the US and refusing to send a delegation to discuss their widely condemned plan to invade heavily populated city of Rafah (A case of biting the hands that arms you).

 

Israeli defence minister's US meetings go ahead
As we've been reporting, Israel has cancelled a planned visit by a delegation to the US this week.

But Israel's Defence Minister Yoav Gallant, who's already in Washington, will continue to hold meetings.

From the US side, US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin "is still planning to meet with Minister Gallant" on Tuesday, Pentagon spokesman Major General Pat Ryder said.

Speaking in Washington after the UN Security Council vote, Gallant said: "We have no moral right to stop the war in Gaza until we return all the hostages to their homes."

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34 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Like a spoiled child, Israel is now throwing a tantrum turning against the US and refusing to send a delegation to discuss their widely condemned plan to invade heavily populated city of Rafah (A case of biting the hands that arms you).

 

Israeli defence minister's US meetings go ahead
As we've been reporting, Israel has cancelled a planned visit by a delegation to the US this week.

But Israel's Defence Minister Yoav Gallant, who's already in Washington, will continue to hold meetings.

From the US side, US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin "is still planning to meet with Minister Gallant" on Tuesday, Pentagon spokesman Major General Pat Ryder said.

Speaking in Washington after the UN Security Council vote, Gallant said: "We have no moral right to stop the war in Gaza until we return all the hostages to their homes."

 

No doubt hoping to be the next P.M. of Israel. 

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7 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

No doubt hoping to be the next P.M. of Israel. 

No idea, not part of this topic if he is or not, the important thing is that despite your deflection he is attending and so discussions will take place

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3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

No idea, not part of this topic if he is or not, the important thing is that despite your deflection he is attending and so discussions will take place

 

It's politics, giving Bibi the finger, so to speak, keep up Bri, no deflection at all. 

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2 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

 

It's politics, giving Bibi the finger, so to speak, keep up Bri, no deflection at all. 

This topic is nothing to do with Yoav Gallant wanting to be PM or not and the post I made was confirmation that the meeting to discuss Rafah will still go ahead in Washington which directly updates the post from Danny Australia. Enough of the lame deflection

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Any proposal like this needs to have ALL the following conditions:

- Permanent ceasefire and withdrawal of all IDF troops;
- Exchange of all hostages and prisoners;

- UN-enforced talks with the goal of creating a two-state solution;

- A UN-sponsored peacekeeping force on-site to help with food distribution, building restoration, and enforcement of all conditions.

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I think we can all join in with the applause and what amounts in real terms shorn of codacils to a vote of support from the US. Russia didn't clap though .....

 

 

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7 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

This topic is nothing to do with Yoav Gallant wanting to be PM or not and the post I made was confirmation that the meeting to discuss Rafah will still go ahead in Washington which directly updates the post from Danny Australia. Enough of the lame deflection

 

If that is true and the meeting is to go ahead then it would be yet another proof that the war mongers running the Israeli so called government and war cabinet are in complete mayhem, disarray and disagreement.

 

Your post however is completely misleading. As per your own link it reads that Gallant ''will continue to hold meetings". 

 

Continue to hold planned meetings has nothing to do with a specific meeting about discussing the plan to invade Rafah with an Israeli delegation, not just Gallant.

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32 minutes ago, Danny Australia said:

 

If that is true and the meeting is to go ahead then it would be yet another proof that the war mongers running the Israeli so called government and war cabinet are in complete mayhem, disarray and disagreement.

 

Your post however is completely misleading. As per your own link it reads that Gallant ''will continue to hold meetings". 

 

Continue to hold planned meetings has nothing to do with a specific meeting about discussing the plan to invade Rafah with an Israeli delegation, not just Gallant.

My quote was directly from the BBC take it up with them. Can you provide a link to all your other claims. I would like to see how credible they all are and if any are misleading

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9 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

I think we can all join in with the applause and what amounts in real terms shorn of codacils to a vote of support from the US. Russia didn't clap though .....

 

 

Don't applaud too soon. As I expected, israel has not ceased to fire, so the resolution is void, IMO.

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12 hours ago, WDSmart said:

UN-enforced talks with the goal of creating a two-state solution

I'm sorry to have to keep pointing this out, but short of israel removing all settlers from the West Bank, there is not enough land left to have a Palestinian state on, so the two state solution is a pointless talking point that can not happen, IMO.

What is not usually discussed is that if the West Bank became Palestinian, they would control most of the river water, and I can't see israel giving that up.

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