jayboy Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 On 3/30/2024 at 8:30 AM, Hummin said: We all understand the complexity of this conflict, we understand the jews fighting for their existence, and we understand those behind 7. October must pay for what they did, and we also understand, Hamas have to lay down their weapons, and surrender! But thats not happening, instead Israel choose to kill civilians! You apparently do not understand since you conflate "the Jews" with the state of Israel.Earlier you seek to sanitize the crimes of October 7th by suggesting those horrors should be seen in context.You concede that those behind the October 7th massacre (ie Hamas and those that protect/support them) should be punished but like many critics of Israel you do not specify how Israel should do that. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 5 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: I believe Israel's figures . Hamas have been shown to lie and repeatedly lie . Israel hasn't been sown to lie . I don't believe the proven liars which Hamas are You can believe proven liars, if you want though Anyway, what you believe, is just a belief and should not be proof of anything, even 3 of you guys think so 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblybob Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 4 minutes ago, Hummin said: One strategy of Israel, if there is one sniper in a building, they flatten the building with bomb strikes without hesitation, without checking how many civilians is in there. I Would not be surprised they count everyone in the building as Hamas. You "would not be surprised", so again, supposition favouring the terrorists. 🥴 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 1 minute ago, jayboy said: You apparently do not understand since you conflate "the Jews" with the state of Israel.Earlier you seek to sanitize the crimes of October 7th by suggesting those horrors should be seen in context.You concede that those behind the October 7th massacre (ie Hamas and those that protect/support them) should be punished but like many critics of Israel you do not specify how Israel should do that. Not by terror bombing civilians and force them on run in a district same size Detroit, and about same density of population, but no where to run! Not complicated to understand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 Just now, Wobblybob said: You "would not be surprised", so again, supposition favouring the terrorists. 🥴 Definition of one part as terrorist only, and thats where your understanding stops. What Hamaz have done, have been done by Israeli guards and settlers for decades. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 3 minutes ago, Hummin said: One strategy of Israel, if there is one sniper in a building, they flatten the building with bomb strikes without hesitation, without checking how many civilians is in there. I Would not be surprised they count everyone in the building as Hamas. You need to state what Israel actually do , rather than stating what wouldn't surprise you . Israel knows who is members of Hamas and how many there are and their names . They know how many there were and how many are left still alive . There's a lesson for us all there . If you are ever in a building with a sniper firing from the window , then get out the building as quick as you can 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said: You need to state what Israel actually do , rather than stating what wouldn't surprise you . Israel knows who is members of Hamas and how many there are and their names . They know how many there were and how many are left still alive . There's a lesson for us all there . If you are ever in a building with a sniper firing from the window , then get out the building as quick as you can To run where ? Again, you are not willing to understand, no shelter is safe for civilians 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblybob Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 1 minute ago, Hummin said: Not by terror bombing civilians and force them on run in a district same size Detroit, and about same density of population, but no where to run! Not complicated to understand. He is asking you how, "not by" does not equate to how! "Not complicated to understand" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 Amyway, have a good ewening! All this posts is soon deleted, start over again tomorow! It is a AN stupid trench war, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayboy Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 4 minutes ago, Hummin said: Not by terror bombing civilians and force them on run in a district same size Detroit, and about same density of population, but no where to run! Be specific and don't suggest what Israel ought not to have done.What in general terms should Israel have done in response to the October 7th atrocities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblybob Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 3 minutes ago, Hummin said: Definition of one part as terrorist only, and thats where your understanding stops. What Hamaz have done, have been done by Israeli guards and settlers for decades. Ah out comes the old chestnut. Cannot get a straight answer out of you! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblybob Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 4 minutes ago, Hummin said: To run where ? Again, you are not willing to understand, no shelter is safe for civilians No Hamas spent all the aid on tunnels and rockets instead of shelters for their civilians, prioritize! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 2 minutes ago, Wobblybob said: No Hamas spent all the aid on tunnels and rockets instead of shelters for their civilians, prioritize! Again, in the nature of zize of their territory they are forced to live and delete in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 2 minutes ago, Hummin said: Again, in the nature of zize of their territory they are forced to live and delete in. gobbledygook 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 13 minutes ago, Hummin said: To run where ? Again, you are not willing to understand, no shelter is safe for civilians To a building where there aren't any snipers would be my choice of location Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 4 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: gobbledygook Exactly! Your level of debating 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 3 minutes ago, Hummin said: Exactly! Your level of debating 13 minutes ago, Hummin said: Again, in the nature of zize of their territory they are forced to live and delete in. Not really, that's why I pointed it out as such.............. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblybob Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 9 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: gobbledygook 4 minutes ago, Hummin said: Exactly! Your level of debating When the debate is lost out come the insults! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 24 minutes ago, Hummin said: To run where ? Again, you are not willing to understand, no shelter is safe for civilians Civilians were given safe areas to go to . "But Israel bombed those areas as well" They were bombed accidently "No, Israel bombed them deliberately in their genocide attempt" Its not genocide as blah blah blad Anyway, back on topic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 4 minutes ago, Wobblybob said: When the debate is lost out come the insults! 😆 Right man to speak 👏 You two should be proud of yourselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblybob Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 Just now, Hummin said: 😆 Right man to speak 👏 You two should be proud of yourselves You're at it again, calm down dear its only a forum, but not just any forum, this is a M & S forum, probably the best forum in all the world. 😗 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 A post contravening our Forum Rules has been removed: 42. You will not advertise, display, promote, review or endorse, directly or indirectly, the name or trademark of any alcoholic beverage. Such actions are potentially in contravention of Section 32 of the Alcoholic Beverage Control Act (2008). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomNaNa555 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 4 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said: That isn't correct , the total number of Palestinians killed is 30 000 , about half of those killed have been Hamas members No evidence that "half of those killed have been Hamas members". Perhaps if you count women who voted for Hamas as a political party. The other half killed are children so they don't vote. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomNaNa555 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 4 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said: You need to state what Israel actually do , rather than stating what wouldn't surprise you . Israel knows who is members of Hamas and how many there are and their names . They know how many there were and how many are left still alive . There's a lesson for us all there . If you are ever in a building with a sniper firing from the window , then get out the building as quick as you can Genocide for all the world to see. That's stating what Israel is actually doing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomNaNa555 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 4 hours ago, jayboy said: Be specific and don't suggest what Israel ought not to have done.What in general terms should Israel have done in response to the October 7th atrocities? Jayboy is an Israeli troll. Ignore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomNaNa555 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 5 hours ago, Bkk Brian said: Yawn. Now do some basic research. Try the UN investigation first followed by survivors testimony. Totally debunked. Read up BKK Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 10 minutes ago, SomNaNa555 said: No evidence that "half of those killed have been Hamas members". Perhaps if you count women who voted for Hamas as a political party. The other half killed are children so they don't vote. I have already stated, I really don't want to spend more time talking about Children , Hamas supporters always seem to want to talk about Children, for some reason . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomNaNa555 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 6 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: I have already stated, I really don't want to spend more time talking about Children , Hamas supporters always seem to want to talk about Children, for some reason . Perhaps because the war crime that includes killing of children is particularly despicable? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomNaNa555 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 10 minutes ago, SomNaNa555 said: Totally debunked. Read up BKK Brian A report from The Intercept details the controversy around ZAKA, an Israeli ultra-Orthodox NGO, and its role in disseminating unverified atrocity stories following a conflict. Israeli media debunked ZAKA's claims about atrocities committed on October 7, exposing discrepancies and fabrications in their accounts. These stories were initially circulated globally, influencing perceptions of the conflict and supporting Israel's military actions against Gaza. Despite evidence questioning their accuracy, major international media outlets, including The New York Times, have continued to feature ZAKA's narratives without substantial scrutiny. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomNaNa555 Posted April 6 Share Posted April 6 7 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said: I did mean that the target was a mistake, although the bombing was intentional, the intended target was Hamas and the soldiers thought Hamas were in the vehicles More lies from the Israelis 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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