British backpacker murderers make fresh appeal against sentence (video)

[sabai-dee-man]

3 hours ago, smedly said:

David had puncture wounds on his arms  - i know how they were made, David tried to help Hannah and payed the ulitmate price - very brave a hero in my estimation 

 

this is what happens when <deleted> thai cowards are mixing with innocent  western young girls trying enjoy a holiday - this is not "shark tooth ring" only rodeo, 

 

people especially young western women should  give this island a very very wide birth

 

you think you are having fun with the locals (avoid at all costs) until  you are expected to do something you don't want to do..............then you are in a heap of trouble, never ever be alone on Death Island, Koh Toa - there are predators who will not take rejection lighlty - cowards 

 

be very careful on that island 

 

I really don't understand the mentality of anyone who still supports that island. I've been asked to go numerous times, and recounted the events every time. I discourage anyone and everyone from ever going there.

Edited April 3 by sabai-dee-man
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[impulse]

1 hour ago, Ironmike said:

A true miscarriage of justice these guys didn't do it everyone knows it was the village heads son that did and it wasn't just the Thai police that set this up but also the British police Sent over 2 officers to investigate this crime but they were to busy getting laid in the bars to really do anything. 

 

I don't disagree at all.  (Nor do I agree.)  But goll dang, that's 3 defamation lawsuits...  Maybe more if you include the RTP.

 

In Thailand...

 

Edit:  Out of curiosity, under Thai law, is AseanNow shielded from defamation suits for stuff they allow on the forum?

 

 

Edited April 3 by impulse

[Marsupienemi]

17 hours ago, Goat said:

They were not a couple.

Hannah had a boyfriend back in England who could not make the trip.

She had only met this David fella there in Koh Tao.

Terrible price to pay but if she had of been a faithful girlfriend she would still be alive today.

 

RIP

A guy who lives in Thailand who comes to make a cold-blooded comment about morality...

I definitely would have seen, read and heard everything here!!

You should go live in Iran or Afghanistan, that seems to suit your morals more.

 

By the way, anyone familiar with people who have lived on this island knows exactly who the culprit is and exactly what happened. This has been described in other comments.

Let's stop this charade. 2 innocent people in prison for 10 years, this story makes me vomit.

Edited April 3 by Marsupienemi

[ryandb]

9 minutes ago, sabai-dee-man said:

 

I really don't understand the mentality of anyone who still supports that island. I've been asked to go numerous times, and recounted the events every time. I discourage anyone and everyone from ever going there.

Agreed, my friends were over here from the UK over new year and wanted me to go with them from Samui and I said I'd go KPG but not Tao and explained why. They still went...

[IslandLover]

1 hour ago, Foreign Jim said:

He was laughing then, too. Smug little c*nt. That family has all the political connections to make it go away. Asean seems to be in their pocket, too. LOL Nice headline. The Burmese "boys" are not murderers. They are scapegoats. 

The biggest smirk is coming from Somyot, the police chief in charge at that time.  He has since been exposed for receiving vast amounts of money from nefarious sources  (all well-documented in the press if you care to do your research).

[brianthainess]

Had they been Thai and confessed then 20yr sentence reduced by 50%, and out by now. 

[bob smith]

They are INNOCENT!

 

I know EXACTLY who did it!!!

 

and it sure as hell wasn't them.

[Foreign Jim]

2 hours ago, ChrisY1 said:

Where's Nomsod now? Probably been laughing for the past 10 years!

 

55 minutes ago, IslandLover said:

The biggest smirk is coming from Somyot, the police chief in charge at that time.  He has since been exposed for receiving vast amounts of money from nefarious sources  (all well-documented in the press if you care to do your research).

Thank you. I remember that piece of lying crap from the case. And I do remember his name and face popping up in subseqent years as to his corruption. This Asean "news"  is simultaneously hopful and discouraging to anyone who was here during that farce. I'm glad people know Win and Zaw are scapegoats. I am glad they know Nimrod, whatever his Fresh Milk nickname is, the real killer.  FFS, it's supported by CCTV footage of some Toovichian relative of his running all over the scene!  And I'm glad people know that the entire ordeal was an elaborate show to free a killer and to jail two innocents.  And yet, I'm discouraged the charade continues.  These kids are now adults. They should be set free.

[bob smith]

2 hours ago, ChrisY1 said:

Where's Nomsod now? Probably been laughing for the past 10 years!

He's still on Koh Tao organizing pool parties every night!

 

bob.

[sungod]

13 hours ago, Dolf said:

Look at small and weak they are. Generally murderers look like murderers. They don't.

 

No, but they look alot like the young people in the PDFs battling the Tatmadaw day in day out.

 

Ridiculous comment based on a photo.

[sambum]

This tragic event was covered in depth at the time, and now all the armchair detectives and keyboard warriors are now back on the case.

 Personally, I think that there were too many flaws in the case that it should have been thrown out of court, but one thing that I remember from the original investigation was the comment by the main policeman in charge:-

 

"NO THAI COULD HAVE DONE THIS!"

 

Make of that what you will, but the way I read it is that "No Thai will ever get convicted of this crime!"

[frank83628]

4 hours ago, Crash999 said:

Anyone who was paying close attention to the case isn’t so sure of that. There was the Met police investigation, the changing timelines of the defense, that the man’s phone was found at the Burmese residence (despite them saying they left before the couple would have walked past), the defense declined to retest DNA after it was possible, the testimony of the third Burmese, the running away and changing appearance before anyone accused them, and so on. 
 

Reason people didn’t hear about this stuff is that the Samui Times was on a crusade to free these two despite what the facts said. And international media assumed ST was a local news source instead of a blog being run from overseas. 
 

The court verdict and more importantly statements by the father who attended the trials explain everything. 

 

 

 

the owner of ST was in the country at the time, she has since fled, an arrest warrant has been issued for her!
but you're right about the overseas media thinking it was a local news source, she lived in Samui and had not been back to Tao for over a decade, apparently she left rather quickly after upsetting a number of people through bad business and also had a failed marriage, she has a personal grudge with Tao thats for sure... oh, and lets not forget money she is making from her book she'd had published about the Island! vested interests much!!
The families have seen far more evidence than anyone here has, The Miller family agreed with the verdict, Davids mother Sue Miller has been verbally attacked by Suzanne Buchanan,  ST owner) and her group of Tao bashers, i have read some of these attacks,  accusing her of being paid off, among other quite disgusting comments, considering it was her son that was murdered.  


 

[sambum]

20 hours ago, Goat said:

They were not a couple.

Hannah had a boyfriend back in England who could not make the trip.

She had only met this David fella there in Koh Tao.

Terrible price to pay but if she had of been a faithful girlfriend she would still be alive today.

 

RIP

 

"........if she had of been a faithful girlfriend she would still be alive today."

 

You ARE a troll! I had my doubts, but not any more - as another poster has already asked - how do you know she was unfaithful? Should she be unable to talk to another man on holiday because she has a boyfriend "back home"?

(And by the way, your comment should read "...........if she had been a faithful girlfriend......" No need for the "of" word - it's even worse than "should of" instead of "should have" or "should've")

[frank83628]

 

2 hours ago, bob smith said:

They are INNOCENT!

 

I know EXACTLY who did it!!!

 

and it sure as hell wasn't them.

oh really, you were there and saw it?

[bob smith]

3 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

 

oh really, you were there and saw it?

Maybe I was/did.

 

Wouldn't make a blind bit of difference here though, would it?

 

TIT - where money talks and mob rules!

 

bob.

Edited April 3 by bob smith

[sambum]

1 minute ago, frank83628 said:

 

oh really, you were there and saw it?

 

At the time, many people were saying "EVERYBODY" knows who did it!

 

Ridiculous comment.

[frank83628]

1 minute ago, bob smith said:

Maybe I was/did.

 

Wouldn't make a blind bit of difference here though, would it?

 

TIT. Money talks and mob rules!

 

bob.

so, thats a no then.

[bob smith]

2 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

so, thats a no then.

...get lost frank.

 

bob.

[frank83628]

1 minute ago, sambum said:

 

At the time, many people were saying "EVERYBODY" knows who did it!

 

Ridiculous comment.

and where did 'EVERYBODY' get their info from... The Samui times?
do you know the running man footage cctv footage came from a family member of the person you guys accuse? hardly think they'd incriminate their nephew aye, but thats been totally left out of all the sensationalised Samui times stories.

[frank83628]

7 minutes ago, bob smith said:

...get lost frank.

 

bob.

 don't make ridiculous statement if you don't want to be pulled up on it.

[sambum]

6 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

and where did 'EVERYBODY' get their info from... The Samui times?
do you know the running man footage cctv footage came from a family member of the person you guys accuse? hardly think they'd incriminate their nephew aye, but thats been totally left out of all the sensationalised Samui times stories.

 

Hang on! "You guys?" I am not accusing anybody of anything - I merely pointed out a comment by the cop in charge at the time, which to me implied that the investigation was not exactly off to an impartial start.

 

And I stand by my original comment which was to say that  "EVERYBODY knows who did it" is a ridiculous statement to make!

[bob smith]

16 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

 don't make ridiculous statement if you don't want to be pulled up on it.

I often wonder with people like you that if the truth actually slapped you across the face, would you still deny it? possibly out of some warped sense of attachment to your precious turtle island.

 

The place is run by thai mafia thugs.

The murders were committed by a Thai and covered up to protect the tourism industry.

 

bob.

Edited April 3 by bob smith

[frank83628]

1 minute ago, sambum said:

 

Hang on! "You guys?" I am not accusing anybody of anything - I merely pointed out a comment by the cop in charge at the time, which to me implied that the investigation was not exactly off to an impartial start.

 

And I stand by my original comment which was to say that  "EVERYBODY knows who did it" is a ridiculous statement to make!

apologies, must have got my comments mixed up, thought i was replying to another poster

[bob smith]

2 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

apologies, must have got my comments mixed up, thought i was replying to another poster

see.

 

you can't even remember who you are replying to!

 

hardly a credible source of information, are you?

 

bob.

[actonion]

5 hours ago, smedly said:

I will finnish with this

 

 

when the defence asked for the DNA samples which they are entitled to do to have it inependently tested - it was no longer available, are you <deleted> kidding - huge samaple that just dissapeared, ?????

 

Then before the cops got on the scene the hoe was not where it was supposed to be (murder weapon) it was moved by the gardener, 200m from the murder scene, but a certain individual had already decided it was the murder weapon ?????? and went looking for the gardner to have him put it back against the tree ..................... that is some #### genius detective work right there 

And  was the  hoe ever  fingerprinted

Edited April 3 by actonion

[sambum]

5 hours ago, thesetat said:

Although you are correct. There is truth to his comment. She would not be dead if she had remained faithful and was not off with that man. The comment was not made to justify her being killed but rather points out a simple fact.

Whether or not the Burmese did this  crime will forever be lost. But i do recall the case about how the Thai man disappeared in the middle of the night on an unscheduled boat trip ending him in Bangkok with reliable witnesses. 

 

 

"She would not be dead if she had remained faithful and was not off with that man."

 

Not another one! GOAT says she was unfaithful and got a verbal slapping for it.

 

She was not "off with that man"! They left the bar SEPARATELY - Hannah leaving the bar before he did.

 

Another disgusting victim blaming comment! Are you of a particular religious denomination?

[frank83628]

7 hours ago, smedly said:

look, most of us frequent most popular areas were falang rarely interact with Thais, not so islands like koh tao, they are right there mixing with falangs but they are only interested in young females - getting them drunk and taking advantage - Hannah wasn't  playing the game, a young beautiful blond who decided to go home, she was raped and killed in the most horrific way possible, the way she was left exposed like that says it all, ## cowards ............ you know who you are and so do I

 

the Burmese guys were sitting on on the beach playing guitar - no way did they do this, it takes a special kind of evil to do that................shark tooth ring coward

David was naked when his body was recovered from the sea, The position of Hannahs body behind the rocks, in a dark and secluded spot, it's highly possible they were having sex and got disturbed. that area is know as 'king Rama rock', it's also possible that someone took offense at them disrespecting the K...  hence the ferocity of the attack!
how about Sean Mcanna, possibly a suspect, or at least a person of interst, put himself in the picture by claiming to been meeting David that night and knew him from Uni, used to sing and play guitar, had various cuts to his arms,  however SKY news (i believe) escorted him off the Island after his 'mafia' claim, in total disregard to the Thai police investigation, he subsequently vanished, last know to have been in Milan, it's a shame the Samui Times was so desperate to pin it on a family she had links to rather than have an open mind on other possibilities.

Edited April 3 by frank83628

[JJGittes]

21 hours ago, Goat said:

They were not a couple.

Hannah had a boyfriend back in England who could not make the trip.

She had only met this David fella there in Koh Tao.

Terrible price to pay but if she had of been a faithful girlfriend she would still be alive today.

 

RIP

 

Dude, what a s*** take.

[jacknorman]

But her phone was found with them, and he explained very badly how it got there, and other people see her with  the phone the same night, strange NOT

[bob smith]

6 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

David was naked when his body was recovered from the sea, The position of Hannahs body behind the rocks, in a dark and secluded spot, it's highly possible they were having sex and got disturbed. that area is know as 'king Rama rock', it's also possible that someone took offense at them disrespecting the K...  hence the ferocity of the attack!
. it's a shame the Samui Times was so desperate to pin it on a family she had links to rather than have an open mind on other possibilities....

how about Sean Mcanna, possibly a suspect, or at least a person of interst,put himself in the picture by claiming to been meeting David that night, used to sing and play guitar, had various cuts to his arms,  however SKY news (i believe) escorted him off the Island after his 'mafia' claim, in total disregard to the Thai police investigation, he subsequently vanished, last know to have been in Milan, it's a shame the Samui Times was so desperate to pin it on a family she had links to rather than have an open mind on other possibilities.

Why are you so reluctant to even slightly entertain the possibility that the murder was committed by a Thai?

 

Do you have vested interests in Koh Tao?

 

bob.