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34 minutes ago, stevenl said:

I would like to see the opinion of the total British population on this.

I believe it may show a widespread distrust towards Israeli sources and less religion related than this survey seems to indicate.

 

   Which Israeli sources do you think that the UK population would mistrust ?

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29 minutes ago, Wobblybob said:

Where is the bit where it states it's ok to throw gays off high rise buildings, stone women to death, marry 9 year old children, cut a soldiers head off in the UK, bomb music venues in Manchester and the list goes on. The religion of peace, I don't think so.

 

I don't think any Abrahamic religions are totally peaceful.

Look at Jews, Muslims, Christians. All of them advocate for violence, and terrible things have been done in each of their names over the centuries and millennia. Interestingly, all 3 religions have Abraham as their common forefather.

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18 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Do you also know about this one?

 

 

 

Yes, it kind of says something though that there are so few events to call up on. Sure, they were large catastrophic cases of terrorism - but to say it is only Muslims is just a silly lie.

 

The amount of Jews, Arabs and Christians of different flavors that other Christians have murdered over the centuries is unbelievable. The same could be said if you switched any of the three religions. Bosnia was a very recent example, the Holocaust, Apartheid in South Africa was also a religious affair and of course, the Nakba and 75 years of Jewish oppression and land theft.

 

They are all as bad as each other.

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2 minutes ago, BigBruv said:

 

The ADL for one.  Then the Times & The Sun (owned by (((Rupert Murdoch))).

(((Robert Maxwell))) even bought up McGraw Hill (so there goes your his-strory books).

 

But, to be honest, because of their power over news/media and corporations all MSM are terrified to report anything negative about 'Our Greatest Allies' 

 

(((They))) also fund politician's trips to their country where it seems you have to take a picture wearing a little hat looking sad with your hand on a wall to get on in life

 

System works the same in the UK:

 

 

 

AIPAC donations to defence budget Isreal Jews Biden Congress.jpeg

 

   You seem to be getting Israeli owned  mixed up with Jewish owned .

The Sun and the Times  isn't Israeli owned . 

You seem to be saying that the UK's population wouldn't trust media outlets owned by Jews , regardless of the Jews nationality 

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9 minutes ago, Brickleberry said:

 

Yes, it kind of says something though that there are so few events to call up on. Sure, they were large catastrophic cases of terrorism - but to say it is only Muslims is just a silly lie.

 

The amount of Jews, Arabs and Christians of different flavors that other Christians have murdered over the centuries is unbelievable. The same could be said if you switched any of the three religions. Bosnia was a very recent example, the Holocaust, Apartheid in South Africa was also a religious affair and of course, the Nakba and 75 years of Jewish oppression and land theft.

 

They are all as bad as each other.

Yes, it kind of says something though that there are so few events to call up on.

 

I don't believe you knew about it, there have been many more also that you obviously don't know about. Who claimed it was only Muslims?

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9 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Yes, it kind of says something though that there are so few events to call up on.

 

I don't believe you knew about it, there have been many more also that you obviously don't know about. Who claimed it was only Muslims?

 

The other chaps.

 

In fairness, I don't think you did... and I don't think I accused you of this (sorry if I did).

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11 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Do you mean the Israeli oppression and land theft ?

 

What are you talking about? When the Romans did it? That was almost 2000 years ago man, you were the one who told me to stay on topic and not to bleat on about the past.

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2 minutes ago, Brickleberry said:

 

The other chaps.

 

In fairness, I don't think you did... and I don't think I accused you of this (sorry if I did).

Few more Islamist inspired attacks:

 

2020, 9 January: Two inmates at Whitemoor prison in Cambridgeshire wearing realistic fake suicide vests, and carrying improvised bladed weapons, stabbed one prison officer several times causing serious injuries and harming several others. One of the inmates, Muslim convert Ziamani, from Camberwell, southeast London, had been jailed for 22 years for hatching a plot to behead a UK soldier inspired by the murder of Fusilier Lee Rigby.[81]
2020, 2 February: 2020 Streatham stabbing – Sudesh Amman, wearing a fake suicide vest similar to the one used in the 2019 London Bridge stabbing, was shot dead by armed police after stabbing and injuring two people in Streatham, London Borough of Lambeth. One of the victims sustained life-threatening injuries.
2020, 20 June: 2020 Reading stabbings – On 20 June 2020, Khairi Saadallah, shouting "Allahu Akbar", attacked two groups of people socialising in Forbury Gardens, a public park in the centre of Reading, killing three and injuring three others. On 11 January 2021, he was sentenced to life imprisonment without the possibility of parole. The sentencing judge, Mr Justice Sweeney said that it was a terrorist attack and that the purpose was to advance an extremist Islamic cause.[82]
2021, 15 October: Murder of David Amess – Ali Harbi Ali stabbed MP Sir David Amess at his constituency surgery and was sentenced to life imprisonment with a whole life order.[83]

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35 minutes ago, Brickleberry said:

 

I don't think any Abrahamic religions are totally peaceful.

Look at Jews, Muslims, Christians. All of them advocate for violence, and terrible things have been done in each of their names over the centuries and millennia. Interestingly, all 3 religions have Abraham as their common forefather.

Quite frankly I don't care what you think, this is about British Muslims and if that troubles you I still don't care. Stop the whataboutery to justify Islam! 

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13 hours ago, Hawaiian said:

More than just sad.  The Brits had better do something pretty quick before the religious fanatics take over.  I"ll leave to your imagination as what should be done.

Its not just the religious fans ,Its many disillusioned Brits that support them !

From the Mp’s all the way up to  leftists  activists working in the media!

 

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Excuse the sarcasm but... Not surprising that some found the news hard to believe, what with Islam being a religion of peace and all that.

Mind you, others found it hard to believe that the British created the first concentration camps.

I guess it is always hard to believe that "your people" did something terrible.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_war_crimes_during_World_War_II#United_Kingdom

Education is really needed.

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40 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

Islam is not a religion like any other religion; it is by doctrine, a misogynistic, homophobic, barbaric, medieval, supremacist ideology, which states clearly its aim for global dominance by force.

 

This is just wrong on so many levels.

 

Christians:

misogynistic - only men may become priests, women are property and must give sex to their husbands.

homophobic - gays are not allowed in the bible, it is a cardinal sin. They should be killed according to the bible

barbaric - how many holy wars did various British kings start? Did you see what the Brits did in the Philippines, crucifixions, hangings, beheading etc.
supremacist ideology - The god given right to colonize any lands the Brits wished to and convert them to Christianity, slavery

 

In essence, the middle eastern world has not caught up with western civilization yet. I mean, it was only 94 years ago that women were given the right to vote in the UK, blacks given the right to vote in 1965 in the USA etc. Western liberalization is quite a new thing - gay sex etc was illegal until VERY recently in Scotland - 1980.   

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3 minutes ago, Brickleberry said:

 

This is just wrong on so many levels.

 

Christians:

misogynistic - only men may become priests, women are property and must give sex to their husbands.

homophobic - gays are not allowed in the bible, it is a cardinal sin. They should be killed according to the bible

barbaric - how many holy wars did various British kings start? Did you see what the Brits did in the Philippines, crucifixions, hangings, beheading etc.
supremacist ideology - The god given right to colonize any lands the Brits wished to and convert them to Christianity, slavery

 

In essence, the middle eastern world has not caught up with western civilization yet. I mean, it was only 94 years ago that women were given the right to vote in the UK, blacks given the right to vote in 1965 in the USA etc. Western liberalization is quite a new thing - gay sex etc was illegal until VERY recently in Scotland - 1980.   

 

   Are you a recent Western convert to Islam ?

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1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   You said Jewish land theft, I asked whether you mean Israeli land theft .

I have a feeling that you don't know the difference between an Israeli and a Jew and they are both the same to you .

   What did you mean by Jewish land theft ?

 

What fo you mean by Jew and Israeli?

You have to be a 'jew' to immigrate there (and be an Israeli) don't you?

 

Very confusing as to qualify as JewIsh, your mother has to be 'JewIsh' BUT non Jewish women can covert and become 'JewIsh' mothers 🤯

Is that correct?

If so it's a bit ridiculous - never mind that most 'jew Ish' people don't look in the slightest bit middle eastern which suggests most are probably Revelation 3:9ers.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Brickleberry said:

In essence, the middle eastern world has not caught up with western civilization yet....

women were given the right to vote in the UK, blacks given the right to vote in 1965 in the USA etc. Western liberalization is quite a new thing - gay sex etc was illegal until VERY recently in Scotland - 1980.   

 

IMHO the pendulum has swung a bit too far towards 'liberal' ideals.

Maybe sharia is a natural reaction - Zoomers certainly seem to be rejecting boomer style self centred debauchery.

Ped doh feel ya is still illegal in the west so I guess 'we' haven't gone full retard quite yet though - for now at least.

 

But do you believe the changes you mentioned and the rest have benefitted society?

 

 

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5 hours ago, Cory1848 said:

Well, from what I see online, people who identify as “Muslim” make up 6.5 percent of the UK population, and the number of those who hold fanatical beliefs would be much less, so to hyperventilate about “[Muslim] religious fanatics taking over” seems excessive. That said, the large numbers of UK Muslims who sympathize with Hamas and deny their attack on Israel is indeed alarming. This, however, speaks more to the growing influence of disinformation more generally, not only in the UK but around the world. There would be ways to counter that disinformation and educate people, which might require some patience but would be far preferable to the mass deportations that you advocate (I assume, in your veiled threat: why not just say what’s on your mind?), and all the human misery and violence such deportations would entail.

Looks like you have allowed YOUR imagination to run wild. 

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2 hours ago, Brickleberry said:

 

This is just wrong on so many levels.

 

Christians:

misogynistic - only men may become priests, women are property and must give sex to their husbands.

homophobic - gays are not allowed in the bible, it is a cardinal sin. They should be killed according to the bible

barbaric - how many holy wars did various British kings start? Did you see what the Brits did in the Philippines, crucifixions, hangings, beheading etc.
supremacist ideology - The god given right to colonize any lands the Brits wished to and convert them to Christianity, slavery

 

In essence, the middle eastern world has not caught up with western civilization yet. I mean, it was only 94 years ago that women were given the right to vote in the UK, blacks given the right to vote in 1965 in the USA etc. Western liberalization is quite a new thing - gay sex etc was illegal until VERY recently in Scotland - 1980.   

History shows that a recipe for disaster is mixing religion and politics.  Oops. Shouldn't have used the word "history."

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6 hours ago, Hawaiian said:

History shows that a recipe for disaster is mixing religion and politics.  Oops. Shouldn't have used the word "history."

Religion is tools for politics, always been

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9 hours ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

 

Not only, but mostly; you have to research diligently to find non islamic acts of terrorism in recent history, but these islamic acts sprang easily to my recall:

 

9/11 USA 2,996 dead 25,000 + injured

7/7  London bombs 52 dead 784 injured

2017 London Bridge, 8 killed 48 injured

2017 Barcelona, driver mows down 100 people, 14 dead 130 injured.

2022 Manchester concert bomb, 22 dead 119 injured

2015 Charlie Hebbo 12 dead

2019 London Bridge 2 dead 3 injured

2020 France stabbing and beheading 3 dead

2020 Samuel Paty, French teacher beheaded in the street

2015 Bataclan, Paris 130 dead 350 wounded

2015 Nice, France, truck rampage 86 dead 434 injured

2023 Arras France .. teacher stabbed to death

2016 Rouen France 85 year old priest has throat slit at alter of church

2023 Brussels, 2 Swedish football fans shot dead

2018 Carcassonne France 5 dead 15 injured

 

All these slaughters of innocent western civilians, and there are hundreds more, yes, hundreds more, were carried out by adherents to the faith of Islam.

 

Islam is not a religion like any other religion; it is by doctrine, a misogynistic, homophobic, barbaric, medieval, supremacist ideology, which states clearly its aim for global dominance by force.

 

It openly practices the subjugation of all women, the eradication of all gays, and promotes the female genital mutilation of 12 year old children, as well as advocating men marrying their 10 year old cousins ….. but the greater danger that it presents to western civilisation, is that it has people like you appeasing this cancer on civilisation ….. shame on you.    

 

 

Thats only one side of the history.

 

War and terror comes in phases, and believing one side is satan and one side is good only, is gullible at its best 

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9 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Thats only one side of the history.

 

War and terror comes in phases, and believing one side is satan and one side is good only, is gullible at its best 

They are horrific terror attacks deliberately murdering innocent civilians, children, women and men. Period. 

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