Heat wave! Be careful out there.

[Will B Good]

21 hours ago, jimn said:

How about me. Sleep until 9am. Make a coffee and take it back to bed with my young wife until 10. Quick shower and both down the gym until 1pm. A bit of lunch and then do any necessary jobs, if not chill inside with all doors and windows open in front of the fan. Too hot and too many flies outside. 5.30 take the dog for a walk she likes to sleep all day. 6.30 pm hook up my TV outside and watch anything I want via my IPTV service. Have a beer if I want and eat when hungry. 11pm bed. 12 midnight sleep.

Hard life...555

[billd766]

On 4/9/2024 at 1:53 PM, prakhonchai nick said:

That make me a "local peasant"🤣

Me  too.

[billd766]

10 hours ago, Georgealbert said:

Please remember there is a big difference between heat exhaustion and heat stroke.

 

Heat exhaustion you can normally deal with yourself, but heat exhaustion requires medical care and attention. The same easy preventative measures will help avoid both, drink plenty of water, not alcohol, avoid dehydration, wear light coloured loose clothing, think about time of day when exercising or working in the heat.

 

https://www.healthline.com/health/heat-stroke-vs-heat-exhaustion

 

 

 

Good advice.

[KhunLA]

7 hours ago, Gecko123 said:

High overnight temperatures can negatively affect the quality of your sleep, sapping both your mental and physical stamina. Agree with the OP that it's important to take it easy when the weather gets hot.

Turn the AC on, as no reason for anyone to be experiencing 28°C or above in the 21st century.  We keep the house at about 26-28°C, all day, and all night in the bedroom, after sunset.

 

Using 600-700kWh a month, <฿3500 if paying PEA/MEA for that amount.

[sirineou]

12 hours ago, Georgealbert said:

Please remember there is a big difference between heat exhaustion and heat stroke.

 

Heat exhaustion you can normally deal with yourself, but heat exhaustion requires medical care and attention. The same easy preventative measures will help avoid both, drink plenty of water, not alcohol, avoid dehydration, wear light coloured loose clothing, think about time of day when exercising or working in the heat.

 

https://www.healthline.com/health/heat-stroke-vs-heat-exhaustion

 

 

 

Yea , what I think I had was Heat exhaustion. I exibited all the symptoms in your list. I felt like crap . 

What is important to remember and it took me a while to realise it also that day , is that when we sweat we lose essential  electrolytes'. The bottle water we all buy is reverse osmosis or  distillation and is not replenishing these electrolytes.  I realised that when a laid down and started getting leg cramps . IN my youth when we played tennis in the hot FL sun we would take salt pills and potassium. I did not have any, so I had salt water and then ate a banana, because I remember reading some place that bananas are full of potassium. Not sure if I did the right thing , I am not a doctor. but I felt better afterwards .

I got these from the local pharmacy. can't read what the ingredients are but it got to be better than nothing , I will go online and order some electrolyte replacement pills.  

Anyway I thought I would put that out there to consider, 

Edited April 10 by sirineou

[billd766]

For some odd reason, today it has been cloudy and we had a couple of 5 minute showers this morning. The temperature the afternoon was only 30.1C compared to yesterdays 39C.

[sirineou]

1 minute ago, billd766 said:

For some odd reason, today it has been cloudy and we had a couple of 5 minute showers this morning. The temperature the afternoon was only 30.1C compared to yesterdays 39C.

Some here,

very windy late in the day, and we got some rain overnight. 

This morning felt nice and cool. 

 

[Georgealbert]

26 minutes ago, sirineou said:

Yea , what I think I had was Heat exhaustion. I exibited all the symptoms in your list. I felt like crap . 

What is important to remember and it took me a while to realise it also that day , is that when we sweat we lose isoseismal electrolytes'. the bottle water we all buy is reverse osmosis or  distillation and is not replenishing these electrolytes.  I realised that when a laid down and started getting leg cramps . IN my youth when we played tennis in the hot FL sun we would take salt pills and potassium. I did not have any, so I had salt water and then ate a banana, because I remember reading some place that bananas are full of potassium. Not sure if I did the right thing , I am not a doctor. but I felt better afterwards .

I got these from the local pharmacy. can't read what the ingredients are but it got to be better than nothing , I will go online and order some electrolyte replacement pills.  

Anyway I thought I would put that out there to consider, 

Yes very good informative and advice, but best to consider hydration before and during any period is better than trying to recover and suffer after.
 

When I expect to exercise or work in heat I always use electrolytes powders and find I also I hydrate better on room temperature water, rather than cold water, that is just my personal preference.

 

But just like anything, too many electrolytes can be unhealthy, if done to excess. I doubt you are going to overdose on them, but;

 

Too much sodium, hypernatremia, can cause dizziness, vomiting, and diarrhea.

 

Too much potassium, hyperkalemia, can impact your kidney function and cause heart arrhythmia, nausea, and an irregular pulse.

 

Too much calcium, hypercalcemia, can lead to fatigue, lethargy, seizures, and bone and joint pain.

 

Too much magnesium can cause muscle weakness, nausea, dizziness, confusion, and heart arrhythmia.

 

https://www.wellandgood.com/overdose-electrolytes/

[billd766]

4 hours ago, Georgealbert said:

Yes very good informative and advice, but best to consider hydration before and during any period is better than trying to recover and suffer after.
 

When I expect to exercise or work in heat I always use electrolytes powders and find I also I hydrate better on room temperature water, rather than cold water, that is just my personal preference.

 

But just like anything, too many electrolytes can be unhealthy, if done to excess. I doubt you are going to overdose on them, but;

 

Too much sodium, hypernatremia, can cause dizziness, vomiting, and diarrhea.

 

Too much potassium, hyperkalemia, can impact your kidney function and cause heart arrhythmia, nausea, and an irregular pulse.

 

Too much calcium, hypercalcemia, can lead to fatigue, lethargy, seizures, and bone and joint pain.

 

Too much magnesium can cause muscle weakness, nausea, dizziness, confusion, and heart arrhythmia.

 

https://www.wellandgood.com/overdose-electrolytes/

I just drink cold water from the fridge with Blue Boy Sala (a red syrupy stuff) to give it some colour and taste. I drink about 3 or 4 litres of that every 24 hours.

[Georgealbert]

6 hours ago, billd766 said:

I just drink cold water from the fridge with Blue Boy Sala (a red syrupy stuff) to give it some colour and taste. I drink about 3 or 4 litres of that every 24 hours.

That is good, people should know their own bodies and how best to hydrate themself to suit the temperature and what they are going to be doing. No hard and fast rules, but be flexible depending on the situation, but ensure you always drink enough of suitable liquids.

 

I personally sweat a lot, so use warm water, mixed with some electrolytes, as I can drink it quicker, to replace my fluid levels. My profession did not allow for light weight loose clothing, so I developed strategies on how to hydrate myself, to prevent the problems occurring, and have used that for living with hot spells.

Edited April 10 by Georgealbert

[sirineou]

9 hours ago, billd766 said:

I just drink cold water from the fridge with Blue Boy Sala (a red syrupy stuff) to give it some colour and taste. I drink about 3 or 4 litres of that every 24 hours.

Drinking water is good but if you sweat you don't only lose water, you also lose many other things in your sweat such as salt etc (electrolytes) and those also need to be replaced. That's how the Gatorade drink sold in the US came to be , it was a mix of water and other things the coach of the Gators football team at the university of Florida had concocted  . 

So if you are out in the yard gardening and you are  sweating, you also need to replace the electrolytes lost in the sweat.  

[KhunLA]

1 hour ago, sirineou said:

Drinking water is good but if you sweat you don't only lose water, you also lose many other things in your sweat such as salt etc (electrolytes) and those also need to be replaced. That's how the Gatorade drink sold in the US came to be , it was a mix of water and other things the coach of the Gators football team at the university of Florida had concocted  . 

So if you are out in the yard gardening and you are  sweating, you also need to replace the electrolytes lost in the sweat.  

Not really a believer myself, as all those years, sweatin' my A$$ off, as kid, teen, working stiff outside, doing manual labor, and even in my late 30's & early 40's, especially last 5 yrs of working (40-45), working at Memphis airport, a month of 39C wasn't rare, and never took salt tabs or electrolytes.

 

Now that they are on the shelves and pushed by the makers ... well, everyone should be drinking.

Edited April 11 by KhunLA

[bbko]

On 4/8/2024 at 6:30 PM, CharlieH said:

We' ve had 43 the last two days and it's my 2 dogs I worry about. They can't escape the heat like we can so I bought them a nice big bath to cool down in when they want and they get to play in the hose pipe everyday.Save a thought for your pets guys. 😀

I also use the cement tub filled with water for my dogs, also when my old air conditioner was sold for scrap, I took out the blower motor/wheel and have it outside for my dogs, they love it. If it's super hot, they come inside.

[sirineou]

10 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Not really a believer myself, as all those years, sweatin' my A$$ off, as kid, teen, working stiff outside, doing manual labor, and even in my late 30's & early 40's, especially last 5 yrs of working (40-45), working at Memphis airport, a month of 39C wasn't rare, and never took salt tabs or electrolytes.

 

Now that they are on the shelves and pushed by the makers ... well, everyone should be drinking.

You know how sweat tastes salty.

It all depends on the water you were drinking. If it contains the minerals you need you are fine. But here in Thailand the bottled water we drink is either RO or distilled , which mean it does not have some of those  Materials you lost in your sweat. 

It will not kill you not to have these electrolytes,(I think) but you would not feel well , and your performance would be affected. different people are affected differently .

So sure you felt ok without replenishing your electrolytes, but you would have felt a lot better if you had. 

[Georgealbert]

40 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Not really a believer myself, as all those years, sweatin' my A$$ off, as kid, teen, working stiff outside, doing manual labor, and even in my late 30's & early 40's, especially last 5 yrs of working (40-45), working at Memphis airport, a month of 39C wasn't rare, and never took salt tabs or electrolytes.

 

Now that they are on the shelves and pushed by the makers ... well, everyone should be drinking.

555555 Total BS, so you know better than all the medical advice available. 

 

Here are a few facts why electrolytes are important because they help:

 

Balance the amount of water in your body

Balance your body's acid/base (pH) level

Move nutrients into your cells

Move wastes out of your cells

Support your muscle and nerve function

Keep your heart rate and rhythm steady

Keep your blood pressure stable

Keep your bones and teeth healthy

 

Please don’t reply, I have far better things to do than debate with an ill informed key board specialist, unless you can pease supply a credible link or research that electrolytes are not needed or are just an advertising con!  As the old saying goes, put up or shut up, as your personnel view is misleading and worth about zero.

 

Maybe start with this article which was medically reviewed by Natalia Johnsen, MD courtesy of American College of Lifestyle Medicine.

 

“Dehydration is extremely common;

 

At least 518,000 people are hospitalized in the United States each year for dehydration.

 

About 10,000 of those who are admitted to the hospital for dehydration each year die there.

 

Prevention of Dehydration 

 

The No. 1 way to prevent dehydration is to drink fluids! Consult your healthcare team to find out what’s optimal for you. In general, during hot, humid days or other situations that deplete fluid (such as exercise or illness) take a sip of water or a hydrating fluid with electrolytes every 15 minutes.”

 

https://www.everydayhealth.com/dehydration/#:~:text=At least 518%2C000 people are,(1)

 

[KhunLA]

1 hour ago, Georgealbert said:

555555 Total BS, so you know better than all the medical advice available. 

 

Here are a few facts why electrolytes are important because they help:

 

Balance the amount of water in your body

Balance your body's acid/base (pH) level

Move nutrients into your cells

Move wastes out of your cells

Support your muscle and nerve function

Keep your heart rate and rhythm steady

Keep your blood pressure stable

Keep your bones and teeth healthy

 

Please don’t reply, I have far better things to do than debate with an ill informed key board specialist, unless you can pease supply a credible link or research that electrolytes are not needed or are just an advertising con!  As the old saying goes, put up or shut up, as your personnel view is misleading and worth about zero.

 

Maybe start with this article which was medically reviewed by Natalia Johnsen, MD courtesy of American College of Lifestyle Medicine.

 

“Dehydration is extremely common;

 

At least 518,000 people are hospitalized in the United States each year for dehydration.

 

About 10,000 of those who are admitted to the hospital for dehydration each year die there.

 

Prevention of Dehydration 

 

The No. 1 way to prevent dehydration is to drink fluids! Consult your healthcare team to find out what’s optimal for you. In general, during hot, humid days or other situations that deplete fluid (such as exercise or illness) take a sip of water or a hydrating fluid with electrolytes every 15 minutes.”

 

https://www.everydayhealth.com/dehydration/#:~:text=At least 518%2C000 people are,(1)

 

Really ... 

... Safe & Effective ... nuff said

 

I live by my life experiences, not what marketers tell me...UP2U

Edited April 11 by KhunLA

[fredwiggy]

18 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Turn the AC on, as no reason for anyone to be experiencing 28°C or above in the 21st century.  We keep the house at about 26-28°C, all day, and all night in the bedroom, after sunset.

 

Using 600-700kWh a month, <฿3500 if paying PEA/MEA for that amount.

True for us foreigners and well off locals, but there are millions here that can't afford the bills from A/C use, let alone the units themselves. In my village I actually can't recall seeing any AC units in the 6 years I've lived here, and in my travels, most of the homes I see don't have any, although many do. My GF and her family do not have any, and when I told her I would get her one, she said the bill would be too high, even after I said I would give her more to cover it. they're used to living with fans all of their lives. My ex's house (mom's) is the same. Just fans since I met them.

[retarius]

The weather is making me ill. I cannot face going out in the vile heat. Time to stay inside in the a/c and chill. Faintly boring, but my mrs was trying to sign me up to go fishing this weekend, but I would rather be bored in a/c than fishing and throwing up with heat stroke. 

[KhunLA]

36 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

True for us foreigners and well off locals, but there are millions here that can't afford the bills from A/C use, let alone the units themselves. In my village I actually can't recall seeing any AC units in the 6 years I've lived here, and in my travels, most of the homes I see don't have any, although many do. My GF and her family do not have any, and when I told her I would get her one, she said the bill would be too high, even after I said I would give her more to cover it. they're used to living with fans all of their lives. My ex's house (mom's) is the same. Just fans since I met them.

Pretty sure Gecko123 isn't a local, and there is no reason to be sweatin' your butt off while trying to sleep.

 

Locals since born here, handle the heat much better than most expats.  Seem to get by with just a fan on.  Not so much against the cold, as was surprised of reports in N of older folks suffering exposure symptoms from low temps.

 

Expats ... just spend a few baht, and live in comfort.   Considering you should have 400k or 800k a year, and more than enough for comfy life.  Doesn't cost much to keep 1 room AC'd.

[NickyLouie]

8 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

 

 

Expats ... just spend a few baht, and live in comfort.   Considering you should have 400k or 800k a year, and more than enough for comfy life.  Doesn't cost much to keep 1 room AC'd.

 

28,000 BTU set on 26 tho 

 

Nice 7/11 feel 

[Will B Good]

10 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Pretty sure Gecko123 isn't a local, and there is no reason to be sweatin' your butt off while trying to sleep.

 

Locals since born here, handle the heat much better than most expats.  Seem to get by with just a fan on.  Not so much against the cold, as was surprised of reports in N of older folks suffering exposure symptoms from low temps.

 

Expats ... just spend a few baht, and live in comfort.   Considering you should have 400k or 800k a year, and more than enough for comfy life.  Doesn't cost much to keep 1 room AC'd.

Agree..$2 or $3 a day to live comfortably.....cool.

[Georgealbert]

1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

Really ... 

... Safe & Effective ... nuff said

 

I live by my life experiences, not what marketers tell me...UP2U

So as expected, absolutely nothing.

 

Hope in your will you have left your body to medical science, as your such a superman, whoes body is outside normal science.

 

Life experience, 55555, more like national arrogance which hides your ignorance. Always remember it’s better to be silent and thought, than to speak and remove all doubt.

 

Bye and have a good day in your fantasy reality.

 

[fredwiggy]

1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

Pretty sure Gecko123 isn't a local, and there is no reason to be sweatin' your butt off while trying to sleep.

 

Locals since born here, handle the heat much better than most expats.  Seem to get by with just a fan on.  Not so much against the cold, as was surprised of reports in N of older folks suffering exposure symptoms from low temps.

 

Expats ... just spend a few baht, and live in comfort.   Considering you should have 400k or 800k a year, and more than enough for comfy life.  Doesn't cost much to keep 1 room AC'd.

Expats, no problem, as we can afford it ,but I meant the locals. I stayed at my ex's mom's house while the house was being built, a few months. I didn't like it but it was okay, just as staying at my girlfriend's house is now. Just a fan. When it gets cool here, she says it's cold. I'm from New Jersey, and I told her this country never gets cold, only cooler.

[bbko]

2 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

True for us foreigners and well off locals, but there are millions here that can't afford the bills from A/C use, let alone the units themselves. In my village I actually can't recall seeing any AC units in the 6 years I've lived here, and in my travels, most of the homes I see don't have any, although many do. My GF and her family do not have any, and when I told her I would get her one, she said the bill would be too high, even after I said I would give her more to cover it. they're used to living with fans all of their lives. My ex's house (mom's) is the same. Just fans since I met them.

Time to go to a local Big C food court and sit for several hours to avoid the heat. 

[fredwiggy]

9 minutes ago, bbko said:

Time to go to a local Big C food court and sit for several hours to avoid the heat. 

But you can't stay over night when you really need comfort, unless you hide behind some boxes.

[KhunLA]

18 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Expats, no problem, as we can afford it ,but I meant the locals. I stayed at my ex's mom's house while the house was being built, a few months. I didn't like it but it was okay, just as staying at my girlfriend's house is now. Just a fan. When it gets cool here, she says it's cold. I'm from New Jersey, and I told her this country never gets cold, only cooler.

I never address post to them here, as don't think they'll be reading.   Especially if I quote someone.  

 

Yes, surprises what temp the locals think cold is, as I'll be in shorts, if that, and the wife is walking around legs & arms with full coverage.

 

Philly boy, and I use to ride my scooter to work, freezing weather, a few layers of clothes, doing 70-80-90mph, since always running late, and my tears would freeze on my face.

[fredwiggy]

Just now, KhunLA said:

I never address post to them here, as don't think they'll be reading.   Especially if I quote someone.  

 

Yes, surprises what temp the locals think cold is, as I'll be in shorts, if that, and the wife is walking around legs & arms with full coverage.

 

Philly boy, and I use to ride my scooter to work, freezing weather, a few layers of clothes, doing 70-80-90mph, since always running late, and my tears would freeze on my face.

Same here, and I really don't like the cold besides when I was hunting , skiing or ice fishing in it. Driving wasn't fun, although I do miss the seasons. Living in Texas, which is hotter on average than Thailand, at least it got cold for awhile, which I enjoyed. Here it's just hot, hotter and wet too long. My daughter lives in Deptford across the river from Philly. I remember driving uphill , sideways, on ice many times, and being out in To Build a Fire weather out in the woods, miles from my car. Fun.

[KhunLA]

4 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Same here, and I really don't like the cold besides when I was hunting , skiing or ice fishing in it. Driving wasn't fun, although I do miss the seasons. Living in Texas, which is hotter on average than Thailand, at least it got cold for awhile, which I enjoyed. Here it's just hot, hotter and wet too long. My daughter lives in Deptford across the river from Philly. I remember driving uphill , sideways, on ice many times, and being out in To Build a Fire weather out in the woods, miles from my car. Fun.

Do miss the seasons.  Still got 3 brothers there.  One Delaware County (Media), PA, the others at Mullica Hill & Vineland.

 

You'd think living in Memphis area and working outside would have prepared me for TH, since a month of 100F wasn't rare.  Last month and this month are just brutal.  Don't know how the Thais work in it, especially if manual labor.  You couldn't pay enough.

[jaideedave]

On 4/10/2024 at 7:28 AM, KhunLA said:

Turn the AC on, or sit in the shade with a breeze (or fan), and sip a cool beverage.  Think about a month or 2 of windy, bitter cold back in the mother land.   

 

Those days when I was walking out an aircraft, and the snow was coming sideways in the wind, and I could barely see anything.   Or up in the bucket, deicing the plane, only to have it get delayed from take off, return, and need to get deiced again.   Damn Global Warming

 

Appreciate & Enjoy the weather.

 

How hot .... DAMN HOT

At the surf yesterday, and it looked good, from inside the car w/AC on, after walking the dog for about half hour.

 

Looking for 35 today, maybe feels like 40, a cool front.

I'm thinking coffee shop, surfside with and iced Cappuccino & brownie might be on the afternoon's agenda 

This unfrozen Canuck remembers ice forming on my eyelids walking to school in winter on some days. I rarely complain about the heat anymore.

And no,not uphill both ways.

[jaideedave]

51 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

But you can't stay over night when you really need comfort, unless you hide behind some boxes.

Besides it will be a dead giveaway if they spot the sleeping bag.