Thai doctor offered bribe to drop lawsuit in Swiss scandal

[eisfeld]

2 hours ago, bananafish said:

The police told her she had to sign an urgent document, which she comes to realise would have reduced the severity of the charges had she signed it. I think that is the part she is assuming is part of a bribe. 

 

That's not what the article says. She says she was offered the money in order if she dropped the matter.

[transam]

7 minutes ago, cardinalblue said:

Thai doctors are product of the Thai educational system…enough said

 

and no, they do not get educated in the west for medical school b/c they can’t get in from HS…remember they go from HS to medical school here completely bypassing 4 years of college - required in the west 

 

when you hear they are trained in the west….that refers to residencies and internships in which the Thai gov pays big bucks to send them for these programs…it’s a win for both…revenue to the schools and a piece of paper saying they received practical training in the west but required to return to thailand to meet their gov obligation of one year of training for 2 years  formula in gov hospitals…which many leave then for private hospitals once their mandatory commitment has been met 

Where I go to get my driving licence renewed, the doctors "shop" is nearby for the cert., the doctor there speaks perfect English and showed me her Doctors Cert. on the wall, issued in Liverpool, UK.........

So I don't think they are all quacks as you make out, and you trying to dumb down Thai folk is a bit off......🤐

[jaideedave]

31 minutes ago, Thumbs said:

The police are doing the right thing (i know world turning upside down) she has no physical injuries from the assault and mental harm is hard to prove definitively, if she continues to push the mental issues she is allegedly suffering from she might have her medical license suspended (depending what type of doctor she is )

 

she is definitely enjoying he 3 weeks of fame and is desperate to remain in the spotlight, 

Very interesting opinion indeed. I'd have to think a bit if I wanted my health placed under the care of a young Dr suffering from PTSD?

Perhaps the Royal Thai Army could find a place for her with a salary double that of a 7-11 employee. 555

[Jonathan Swift]

23 hours ago, jaideedave said:

This young Dr is obviously (to me) being coached big time for fame and fortune.

Davey boy is probably guilty of something no doubt in my mind.

 

Thing is that Dr's here are held in god like esteem here and can do no wrong. In the past I had a heated argument with my wife when I disagreed with a statement a Dr made concerning a med issue I was having.

She couldn't believe that I questioned the Dr's advice.

Obviously coached? Your powers of divine intuition are impressive. There's nothing about this case that even remotely suggests that. That statement is ludicrous. You overestimate your grasp of how the world works. You should probably quit watching tiktok.

[jaideedave]

3 hours ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

It’s not an out of court settlement, if it was, it would be negotiated directly between the interested parties in the presence of the police. She was approached by a third party and asked to take a bribe to drop any charges. It is an attempted bribe, describing it as anything else is a disingenuous attempt to give this bully some credibility that he does not deserve.

 

The issue lies in the fact that in the LOS that if the BIB get involved in the negotiations they will want their cut of the booty.

[bananafish]

28 minutes ago, eisfeld said:

 

That's not what the article says. She says she was offered the money in order if she dropped the matter.

If you think the article doesn't say police asked her to sign an urgent document, and had she signed it, charges would have been reduced, then you need to read the article again, because it does say that. 

[Aussie999]

23 hours ago, mfd101 said:

Conclusion: Some people in Thailand are corrupt, but not necessarily all. And some of the most corrupt may not be Thai.

Name some

[Eloquent pilgrim]

1 hour ago, jaideedave said:

The issue lies in the fact that in the LOS that if the BIB get involved in the negotiations they will want their cut of the booty.

 

Well indeed, but that’s how it usually happens in Thailand. The BIB need to be involved to make sure that both parties are happy with any settlement reached; thus insuring that no charges can be brought at a later date by a plaintiff that has accepted the terms.

 

BIB often suggest initial terms and act as mediator between the parties; they would undoubtably try and get a piece of the action for themselves if they can.

 

 

[Thingamabob]

21 hours ago, transam said:

Yes, you......

Possibly, but that makes kicking her not only thuggish but also stupid.

[eisfeld]

2 hours ago, bananafish said:

If you think the article doesn't say police asked her to sign an urgent document, and had she signed it, charges would have been reduced, then you need to read the article again, because it does say that. 

 

That's unrelated to the money offered to her directly. Maybe take your own advise, read the article again and understand that there are two different things happening.

[alien365]

3 hours ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

Maybe you haven’t acquainted yourself with all aspects of this case; he initially said that he didn’t know it was a Thai national that he kicked. He said he thought it was a Chinese woman … how’s that for racism ?

 

And BTW, have you got anything on topic to say about this issue, or do you just troll threads to see if you can find any comments to criticise. With the thread 7 pages old, your comment to me appears to be your first one.

 

 

I don't see how assuming a Thai was Chinese in the dark is racist. 

 

Regarding calling me a troll for commenting on your abusive language toward him, I think the matter speaks for itself. I'm not going to stoop to your level.

[Seeall]

On 4/10/2024 at 12:13 PM, jaideedave said:

This young Dr is obviously (to me) being coached big time for fame and fortune.

Davey boy is probably guilty of something no doubt in my mind.

 

Thing is that Dr's here are held in god like esteem here and can do no wrong. In the past I had a heated argument with my wife when I disagreed with a statement a Dr made concerning a med issue I was having.

She couldn't believe that I questioned the Dr's advice.

I think it comes from the training they get from school to keep quiet and listen to what you're told and believe whatever you told I've had several times where the partner says all they say this so it must be true even though the facts is otherwise it's just education brainwashing

[off road pat]

On 4/10/2024 at 7:04 AM, bubblegum said:

The lady seems to like the spotlights.

 

On 4/10/2024 at 7:04 AM, bubblegum said:

The lady seems to like the spotlights.

It certainly looks like she would like real justice to be done !!!

[off road pat]

21 hours ago, THEN said:

possible solutions you are mentioning. 

Nope, not Swiss, but should he be kicked out based on this small incident with no injury? Nothing has been mentioned about corruption in his businesses?

Hm,...You conveniently forget that he had multiple guns and a permit that only can be got by corruption. because Farangs or any foreigner can not poses guns in Thailand !!

[Eloquent pilgrim]

28 minutes ago, alien365 said:

I don't see how assuming a Thai was Chinese in the dark is racist. 

 

Regarding calling me a troll for commenting on your abusive language toward him, I think the matter speaks for itself. I'm not going to stoop to your level.

 

He said he only kicked her because he thought she was Chinese, and would not have kicked her if he’d thought she was Thai …. if you don’t understand the racism in that, nobody will ever be able to explain it to you.

 

And why are you defending this odious, entitled bully ?

[off road pat]

On 4/10/2024 at 7:47 AM, ChaiyaTH said:

Every Thai is against corruption, until it benefits them, then it is not a big problem: not think too much, sabaai sabaai

Hm,...Same goes for most Farangs !!! they are against corruption, until it benefits them as well !!

[Cereal]

On 4/10/2024 at 12:13 PM, jaideedave said:

This young Dr is obviously (to me) being coached big time for fame and fortune.

Davey boy is probably guilty of something no doubt in my mind.

 

Thing is that Dr's here are held in god like esteem here and can do no wrong. In the past I had a heated argument with my wife when I disagreed with a statement a Dr made concerning a med issue I was having.

She couldn't believe that I questioned the Dr's advice.

I did the same thing with my Lao wife here in Vientiane. The doctor was a filthy slob. His lab coat looked like it could have been boiled for soup stock. His fingernails looked like he'd just come from gardening. 

 

When he suggested something ridiculous I pointed to his lab coat and fingernails and then asked him what medical school he went to. He was shocked and told me he was the doctor and if I didn't agree with his advice I could leave. All he saw was the back of my head getting smaller as I calmly walked out the door with my humiliated wife trailing behind. I told her that in Canada, doctors don't look like pigs and are at least semi-intelligent.

[Eloquent pilgrim]

26 minutes ago, Cereal said:

All he saw was the back of my head getting smaller as I calmly walked out the door with my humiliated wife trailing behind. I told her that in Canada, doctors don't look like pigs and are at least semi-intelligent.

 

You seem to have adapted seamlessly to life in South East Asia.

 

[RobU]

8 hours ago, Hummin said:

This case is now more about the corrupt system, than he as a person! He is just the face now of something bigger than him. 

 

What media says and her advisors tells her is irrelevant, and just the game that comes with it.

 

He did a mistake, now it is about the corrupt system thats unfair, and the Thais love it, but, when the curtains goes down, its back to normal. 

 

Can anyone show me what Anutin says about corruption in Phuket? 

 

David will face charges for having weapon license for a clock and a rifle, but cant see anyone mention the one giving him the license wrongly and illegally. 

I can see the need for a rifle if an elephant goes rogue it could come in handy but surely it should be kept on site at all times for the supervisor to use if needed (which it wasn't)

[Eloquent pilgrim]

13 minutes ago, RobU said:

I can see the need for a rifle if an elephant goes rogue it could come in handy but surely it should be kept on site at all times for the supervisor to use if needed (which it wasn't)

 

Rifle not needed for that situation Rob; a tranquillising gun is far more effective, and much more target friendly. You are of course correct that it should be kept securely on site.

[AreYouGerman]

11 hours ago, Hummin said:

BS! It is not anti white if you are not braking rules or the law. If you are stupid, face the consequences.  Most white people with resources and connections pay the system as a local do! A thai without resources and contacts face the same if not worse as a white guy. You just show you have little knowledge and experience with thailand. Life in thailand is equally unfair for those who is lower on the ranks. Ignorant to calm out racist unfairness. 

 

 

Bull<deleted>? Sounds like you are describing a justice system which is a complete joke. Wait, didn't I write that? 😅 Probably English is not your first language and you failed to understand what was communicated! Just take some online classes, I do that too, and talk with a South African cutie every day to increase my skills.

[it is what it is]

On 4/10/2024 at 6:42 AM, mfd101 said:

Conclusion: Some people in Thailand are corrupt, but not necessarily all. And some of the most corrupt may not be Thai.

 

some people are corrupt in most countries, in some countries checks and balances are more effective then in others. thailand isn't the worst for corruption, but corruption is certainly entwined in the fabric of society.

[RobU]

6 minutes ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

Rifle not needed for that situation Rob; a tranquillising gun is far more effective, and much more target friendly. You are of course correct that it should be kept securely on site.

Thanks for putting me straight 

[Eloquent pilgrim]

10 minutes ago, RobU said:

Thanks for putting me straight 

 

I should also have added, and far more importantly, that using a tranquillising gun means you do not end the life one of these magnificent creatures that can inhabit earth for as many as 70 years.

[alien365]

2 hours ago, Eloquent pilgrim said:

 

He said he only kicked her because he thought she was Chinese, and would not have kicked her if he’d thought she was Thai …. if you don’t understand the racism in that, nobody will ever be able to explain it to you.

 

And why are you defending this odious, entitled bully ?

I generally have no problems with the other things you have said about him as they don't carry the same weight as labeling someone racist.  I 100% agree that he is an odious, entitled bully though. 

[khunpin]

The crim farang should pay for his assault kick! 

But it's obvious that the victim wants way more money. 

Criminal farang and greedy Thai - never a good combination. 

[Eloquent pilgrim]

38 minutes ago, khunpin said:

The crim farang should pay for his assault kick! 

But it's obvious that the victim wants way more money. 

Criminal farang and greedy Thai - never a good combination. 

 

She is not asking for money, and has turned down an attempted bribe; she is asking for him to be prosecuted under section 295, rather than section 391, which the police tried to rush her into agreeing with. Might help if you acquainted yourself with the facts before making egregious accusations.

 

 

[metisdead]

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[Ausie11]

On 4/10/2024 at 4:13 PM, FritsSikkink said:

No, she demands justice and won't be pressed in doing otherwise by a crook.

or she just looking for more money

[Paris333]

Where is Thailand scientific medical community to support Thai lady doctor from scientific community?

Is it responsible stance from Thai medical scientific community?

Human dignity should not be negotiated and be defined  comparing to 🤪 "Golden visa" 🤪 from "golden" Swiss -Russian -Ukranian -or Australian -Britain -Canadian -American "gentlemen".

I do not accept your "pardon" or forgiveness "gentleman" because Kingdom of Thailand have civil law and you do not have any right with your unacceptable stance to insult Thai civilians mainly Thai lady doctor from scientific community.

Five years ban to "gentleman" to take his lesson from Thailand because human dignity is not subject of "negotiation"!

I'm angry enouth with the attitude and stance of Thai justice system.