Brickleberry Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 6 minutes ago, rabas said: None, as long a they are not used for military purposes. Iran's top IRGC terror generals plotting attacks on Israel in the annex lost them their protections. Note: reference 8 minutes ago, scottiejohn said: Wrong Sorry, but you're both lying: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/02/world/europe/interpreter-israel-syria-embassy.html Quote Diplomatic buildings are entitled to broad protections from attack or other interference by the host country under international customary law, codified in the 1961 Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations and the 1963 Convention on Consular Relations. Article 22 of the Convention on Diplomatic Relations states: “The premises of the mission shall be inviolable. The agents of the receiving State may not enter them, except with the consent of the head of the mission. The receiving State is under a special duty to take all appropriate steps to protect the premises of the mission against any intrusion or damage and to prevent any disturbance of the peace of the mission or impairment of its dignity.” Those protections remain in force even if the embassy is used for criminal or military purposes. The receiving state can break off diplomatic relations, or revoke the diplomatic immunity of specific individuals and eject them from the country, but it must still “respect and protect” the embassy buildings and their contents even after the mission has closed. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblybob Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 1 minute ago, AreYouGerman said: Do you think Israel is a peaceful country? Do you think Israel's lap dog, the US, is a peaceful country? You should not answer a question with another question......should you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MangoKorat Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 1 minute ago, Wobblybob said: Do you think they had permission, I can't think of any other way a foreign country would fly over another country without permission, unless at war with that country of course. No idea on that one but I doubt Israel would care whether Jordan gave permission or not. In military terms, Jordan is a gnat to Israel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0ffshore360 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 The Middle East is rapidly devolving into a conflagration that typically is contrived to distract. Netanyahu once more and more has petulantly defied the US like a naughty child and pee'd in the back yard of Iran invoking an informed response from Iran that demonstrates the minimum it could. The world waits to see just how the US will respond when it ,self declared as the world's "police" is facing 3 fronts of combined military and economic challenges. At this moment I think Zelensky is considering a ticket to obscurity, Putin sending first class antifreeze to XI, and Netanyahu has more than a simple earache ! Do Or Die ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 5 minutes ago, Brickleberry said: Sorry, but you're both lying: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/02/world/europe/interpreter-israel-syria-embassy.html 5 minutes ago, Brickleberry said: Diplomatic buildings are entitled to broad protections from attack or other interference by the host country under international customary law, codified in the 1961 Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations and the 1963 Convention on Consular Relations. Article 22 of the Convention on Diplomatic Relations states: “The premises of the mission shall be inviolable. The agents of the receiving State may not enter them, except with the consent of the head of the mission. The receiving State is under a special duty to take all appropriate steps to protect the premises of the mission against any intrusion or damage and to prevent any disturbance of the peace of the mission or impairment of its dignity.” Those protections remain in force even if the embassy is used for criminal or military purposes. The receiving state can break off diplomatic relations, or revoke the diplomatic immunity of specific individuals and eject them from the country, but it must still “respect and protect” the embassy buildings and their contents even after the mission has closed. 'Diplomatic buildings are entitled to broad protections from attack or other interference by the host country under international customary law ' Israel was NOT the host Country , Syria was the host Country 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblybob Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 (edited) 9 minutes ago, MangoKorat said: No idea on that one but I doubt Israel would care whether Jordan gave permission or not. In military terms, Jordan is a gnat to Israel. But they helped them shoot down Iranian missiles, I can't put it any better than I have already done. Israel was not a gnat to Jordan last night because they again helped them along with other Arab nations and the pro Hamas lot won't take kindly to that! Edited April 14 by Wobblybob Grammar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post scottiejohn Posted April 14 Popular Post Share Posted April 14 17 minutes ago, AreYouGerman said: Exactly! People here are starting to talk about homosexual rights. I am asking what this has to do with war. Do you have link to that so called map? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norfolkandchance Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 40 minutes ago, AreYouGerman said: Yeah, Hitler invaded Poland because occupying the German city Danzig and half of Prussia was out of question and then France invaded Germany. People now say Crimea shouldn't stay Russian. Well, sounds very similar to 'Danzig shouldn't stay Polish'. The US wants wars on 3 fronts now but can only fight one. Let's see what it is. My bet is 'Die for Israel'. Nothing like a good old dose of atonement then from you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiejohn Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 11 minutes ago, Wobblybob said: You should not answer a question with another question......should you. Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 15 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: No change to the above, no need for me to go into details why and why its nothing like the US or Israel because you should know yourself I understand it can be to much to take in, that we are no better than the enemy for the right reasons. It a though one. Easier to put the pink glasses on 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MangoKorat Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Wobblybob said: Israel was not a gnat to Jordan last night I didn't say that, I said Jordan is a gnat to Israel. Meaning that Isael is far more powerful and would probably not be worried about crossing Jordanian airspace. They are not going to publish their flight plans but it seems highly unlikely that they flew any other route in their recent attacks in both Iraq and Syria. Edited April 14 by MangoKorat 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblybob Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Just now, scottiejohn said: Why not? Because it's evasive and dismissive! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 (edited) Monthy Python couldnt have done it better themselves, seeing what we produce so elegant here in this fora Edited April 14 by Hummin 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 25 minutes ago, AreYouGerman said: Exactly! People here are starting to talk about homosexual rights. I am asking what this has to do with war. Didn't the USA remove al its military bases from Afghanistan ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblybob Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Just now, MangoKorat said: I didn't say that, I said Jordan is a gnat to Israel. Well I still have to repeat myself with the same reply, they wasn't last night as they helped Israel. Ground control to Major Tom, are you receiving over.🥴 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 1 minute ago, Hummin said: I understand it can be to much to take in, that we are no better than the enemy for the right reasons. It a though one. Easier to put the pink glasses on that we are no better than the enemy for the right reasons. Why I can't be bothered debating such nonsense with you. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottiejohn Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Just now, Nick Carter icp said: Didn't the USA remove al its military bases from Afghanistan ? Hence my asking for a link to that map! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 24 minutes ago, Wobblybob said: Do you think they had permission, I can't think of any other way a foreign country would fly over another country without permission, unless at war with that country of course. So you're saying Israel obtained permission from Syria to attack the Iranian embassy compound in Syria. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblybob Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Just now, stevenl said: So you're saying Israel obtained permission from Syria to attack the Iranian embassy compound in Syria. Show me where I said that you liar! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 3 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: that we are no better than the enemy for the right reasons. Why I can't be bothered debating such nonsense with you. Its like wise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AreYouGerman Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 1 minute ago, stevenl said: So you're saying Israel obtained permission from Syria to attack the Iranian embassy compound in Syria. Based. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblybob Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Just now, AreYouGerman said: Based. Based where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AreYouGerman Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Just now, Wobblybob said: Based where? Hahahah. Oh man, boomers are hilarious. 😅 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Just now, Hummin said: Its like wise Fantastic! Country Reports on Terrorism 2021: Iran Designated as a State Sponsor of Terrorism in 1984, Iran continued its support for terrorist-related activity in 2021, including support for Hizballah, Palestinian terrorist groups in Gaza, and various terrorist and militant groups in Iraq, Syria, Bahrain, and elsewhere throughout the Middle East. Iran used the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps-Qods Force (IRGC-QF) to provide support to terrorist organizations, provide cover for associated covert operations, and create instability in the region. Iran has acknowledged the involvement of the IRGC-QF in the Iraq and Syria conflicts, and the IRGC-QF is Iran’s primary mechanism for cultivating and supporting terrorist activity abroad. In 2019, the Secretary of State designated the IRGC, including IRGC-QF, as a Foreign Terrorist Organization. Iran also used regional militant and proxy groups to provide deniability, in an attempt to shield it from accountability for its destabilizing policies. https://www.state.gov/reports/country-reports-on-terrorism-2021/iran/ “State Sponsors of Terrorism: An Examination of Iran’s Global Terrorism Network.” https://www.congress.gov/event/115th-congress/house-event/108155/text Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MangoKorat Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 2 minutes ago, Wobblybob said: Well I still have to repeat myself with the same reply, they wasn't last night as they helped Israel. Ground control to Major Tom, are you receiving over.🥴 Firstly, see the edit to my last post. Secondly, I think you have misunderstood my entire meaning. Another poster stated that Israel cannot fly over Saudi or Iraq to reach Iran. I am questioning why they would have any reason to fly over Saudi. They wouldn't care about flying over Iraq - Iraq no longer has the capability of doing anything about that. Looking at a map of the region, Jordan would be the obvious route, not Saudi. As you say, Jordan helped Israel out last night so it seems doubtful they would object to Israeli aircaft flying over their territory and even if they did, I doubt Israel would care. I don't see your point - unless you have misunderstood Ground Control. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobblybob Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Just now, AreYouGerman said: Hahahah. Oh man, boomers are hilarious. 😅 You wrote it, the jokes on you! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 2 minutes ago, Wobblybob said: Show me where I said that you liar! See your quote in my post. "Do you think they had permission, I can't think of any other way a foreign country would fly over another country without permission, unless at war with that country of course." They flew over Syria so must have had Syrian permission according to your reasoning. Now all know that's not correct, so your post was incorrect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirineou Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 3 hours ago, coolcarer said: Change that for Hamas triggers World War 3 and you’d be spot on. Nonsensical reply 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expat_4_life Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 I'm thinking about the thread title Iran potentially triggers World War 3 Who exactly is going to enlist to fight in it? You, your sons or daughters? Draft? I won’t even say what that would lead to. Nothing to stress about. This is all theatrics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0ffshore360 Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 5 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Fantastic! Country Reports on Terrorism 2021: Iran Designated as a State Sponsor of Terrorism in 1984, Iran continued its support for terrorist-related activity in 2021, including support for Hizballah, Palestinian terrorist groups in Gaza, and various terrorist and militant groups in Iraq, Syria, Bahrain, and elsewhere throughout the Middle East. Iran used the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps-Qods Force (IRGC-QF) to provide support to terrorist organizations, provide cover for associated covert operations, and create instability in the region. Iran has acknowledged the involvement of the IRGC-QF in the Iraq and Syria conflicts, and the IRGC-QF is Iran’s primary mechanism for cultivating and supporting terrorist activity abroad. In 2019, the Secretary of State designated the IRGC, including IRGC-QF, as a Foreign Terrorist Organization. Iran also used regional militant and proxy groups to provide deniability, in an attempt to shield it from accountability for its destabilizing policies. https://www.state.gov/reports/country-reports-on-terrorism-2021/iran/ “State Sponsors of Terrorism: An Examination of Iran’s Global Terrorism Network.” https://www.congress.gov/event/115th-congress/house-event/108155/text 1 source , the source of declaration. The same source that to this day justifies thee invasion of Iraq and the public hanging of Saddam Hussien on the grounds of possessing "weapons of mass destruction" , despite being in the political truthful knowledge that no such weapons or even facilities even existed because they had been expunged already by the US ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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